However, this can be countered with better coaching throughout the country. The better and more widespread the coaching, the less we need these "talented player pathways," the more we'll see these players become elite through natural development and the less chance we'll have of missing those players for the new generation of A-League/Socceroos.

At least, that's the dream.

Relative Age Effect is mentioned multiple times throughout the National Curriculum, too, and I don't understand how it can possible note that there is a problem with doing it in relation to RAE, yet still insist that it continues to be done that way.

However, this can be countered with better coaching throughout the country. The better and more widespread the coaching, the less we need these "talented player pathways," the more we'll see these players become elite through natural development and the less chance we'll have of missing those players for the new generation of A-League/Socceroos.

At least, that's the dream.

At the same time why are we still trying to identify players at 12 and 11 years of age when all the evidence says you cannot?
Just as Han Berger describes in part two with Relative Age Effect.

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At the same time why are we still trying to identify players at 12 and 11 years of age when all the evidence says you cannot?
Just as Han Berger describes in part two with Relative Age Effect.

Done with all 4 parts

Han Berger speaking about the National curriculum, FFA National Competition Review and Elite Player Pathway Review.

Goes for about an hour and is quiet interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGS7i15-fQ

you have no credibility Judy
remember how you went on about short slow and game skills
4 years on try tall, super fast,silky skills and great game sense. =;

Coerver, money making machine that passed it's use-by date over 10 years ago.

No surprises that it's now just finding it's way to the hotbed of strayan sockah dev, tasmania.

There's an idiot born every minute.....possibly every 30 seconds in tassie.

Coerver, money making machine that passed it's use-by date over 10 years ago.

No surprises that it's now just finding it's way to the hotbed of strayan sockah dev, tasmania.

There's an idiot born every minute.....possibly every 30 seconds in tassie.

Coerver, money making machine that passed it's use-by date over 10 years ago.

No surprises that it's now just finding it's way to the hotbed of strayan sockah dev, tasmania.

There's an idiot born every minute.....possibly every 30 seconds in tassie.

Coever sucked millions from the FNSW coffers and put thousands of kids through it's system and you can only come up with 3 players?. It's quite simply crap. I knew some very high up coever coaches who said it was rubbish but didn't care because it paid their wages.


Edited by Aussiesrus: 6/8/2012 01:59:42 PM

So from all the australians that have been through the coerver training system you can only come up with 3 aussies who in your opinion are of note?



Edited by Aussiesrus: 6/8/2012 01:59:42 PM

Coever was also a past system adopted by FNSW that was completely shonky. They even tried to claim Harry Kewell as product and harry flately denied he'd ever been coever trained. So even the system FNSW adopted was shonky and corrupt.
Edited by Aussiesrus: 3/8/2012 12:37:22 AM[/i

He can't say it publicly because he is owned by the system. The same as players cannot be picked with better talent because of the system. If we are at the point where the system is failing then time to get rid of the system and those that have turned the system into a dictatorship. No system is bigger than Australia and it's success and people should be able to speak their minds about it.

This isn't germany 1943 or a communist country. If we are all going to walk around and let the king have no clothes then we will be left exposed as well. Japan have made the leap forward in advanced techniques which suits their players. Yet we embrace an old outdated system that has produced sweet feck all. Hence the downward spiral. The system is like a rolling bulldozer that will squash anything in it's path. So while we let this happen get used to being flogged by asian countries and australia will slowly rank lower and lower and qualify for less and less. It's already happening. And I see nothing in the future of our youth of the current applied system to suggest otherwise.

The recent National Competitions Review recommendations had better work.
Instead of a cap on fees payable by youth players, there is to be a points system implemented to encourage home grown products. Time will tell what effect this has on the football economy because, to state the bleeding obvious, change is desperately needed.

Kids are being overcharged. Some academies are selling dreams for exorbitant fees - with some agents selling overseas trials to hopeful but misguided parents for upwards of five or six thousand dollars, which is an absolute disgrace. And the grab for dollars goes even deeper.

Recently, in Sydney, it came to my attention that some parents are paying large amounts of money to the club under the table for their child to play in elite teams.

In at least one instance that I'm aware of, someone has paid tens of thousands of dollars to a club to coach its elite youth team, despite not being qualified for the role.

These are two examples that reflect the flawed economy of junior football that is plaguing our game, as greedy clubs heap larger burdens on vulnerable parents.

It has to stop, because it is selling off the future to fund today.

If any club is so desperate to stay afloat that it is prepared to allow someone to pay his way into an elite youth team coaching position, rather than earn it the proper way, they are not only a disgrace to football for selling out the game, but are clearly in a financially parlous state.

It would be better for the game if that club closed its doors rather than prostitute the quality of environment and education being provided to our future generations of players. Anyone with knowledge of such a situation should immediately alert the association, state body and Football Federation Australia (FFA).

How can we call ourselves a game of high standards when a parent is being charged several thousand dollars his child's football development, only for the person in charge of that education to have gained the position by paying for it?

The opportunity to be able to shape the football development of a child or youth player is a gift that must be taken more seriously, for every mistake limits the chances of a boy or girl to make a career in the game. Selling such a position to the highest bidder goes against every principle of decency, integrity and value the game stands for.

Nor is 'opportunity' merely a term that can be used without understanding the ramifications for a child's life. In Outliers Malcolm Gladwell argues that being chosen in an elite program sets off a potentially virtuous cycle in a child's life and ultimately career.

The author calls this 'accumulative advantage', where the child enters a better learning environment with (hopefully) better coaches, facilities and a greater frequency of training.

This allows the chosen child to progress above those excluded, making them more likely to be selected the following years in better positions, creating a cycle that eventually raises the child's ability.

Unfortunately in our system, money is allowing mediocre performers to enter the system ahead of more talented children who can't afford to.

Every time we choose a development squad or first team at any age, we assume a responsibility that can make immense positive impact on a child's life. A child's future should never be for sale.

It is imperative that we train thousands more child educators for our grass roots clubs. To that end the cost of coaching courses must fall. That cost is ultimately passed on to the parents in one form or another and any parent entering the game is entitled to believe their child is being given the best possible chance to succeed.

The thought of someone without the skills, paying for the privilege of guiding talented kids, makes me sick to the core. Absolute filth, and a stain on the game. Both the payer, and payee.

By the same token, I am reliably informed that the practice of people paying for their children to be a part of these elite squads is alive and well.

Any club that sells a position in an elite youth squad should be shut down, the management prosecuted for destroying the integrity of the game and life bans handed around.
How many truly gifted talents are missing out because clubs are selling positions in elite squads to stay alive?

It is difficult to quantify the damaging effect on the future of our game when these deplorable practices are going on.

For those clubs and administrators who argue that they need to prostitute the heart of the game to keep their club alive, do all of us a favor by closing the doors and throw away the key. The game neither wants nor needs you.

You have not the first concept of what football is about.

Let’s ensure that we start promoting the best talents, charging them the least possible, ceasing the practice of passing on the cost of Premier League teams to the children below and work together to develop a system that is of higher quality, fairer and cheaper, for all.

Our future depends on it.

Just a reminder Cruyff, the father of Spainish Football cannot stand the KNVB and has just routed AJAX junior development practices as too regimented, to fitness based and not based on developing technique.

While his system of play is different to KNVB's.

Just a reminder Cruyff, the father of Spainish Football cannot stand the KNVB and has just routed AJAX junior development practices as too regimented, to fitness based and not based on developing technique.

While his system of play is different to KNVB's.

We get the impression that the Dutch system is a "Homogenous" system. It is not. Even though Holland made the last World Cup Final many Dutch men were disgusted at Van Marjwick's cynical tactics in the WC Final, chief amongst them Cruyff.

He can't say it publicly because he is owned by the system. The same as players cannot be picked with better talent because of the system.

I had an interesting discussion with a japanese scout in australia recently and told me he had trouble even getting trials here in australia for his japanese lads because their still exists the racist ethnics clubs which have a strangehold in our second tier football. He hinted this is becoming feedback to asia and is highly frowned upon by the asian football community and if not changed may cause australia future expulsion from the AFC..