Did Jesus really exist?


Did Jesus really exist?

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Brought over from the 5 dead people you want to meet thread.

Jesus is a bit of an interesting figure, historically speaking. What do you think?

Supernatural Messiah, historical man whose powers have been overblown, or convenient figurehead borrowed from local folklore and other religions ofI the ancient Middle East that never really existed?
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Sorely tempted to just turn this into a reborn controversial discussions thread. It's obviously needed.
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I'm sure it will evolve that way eventually
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Funky Munky wrote:
Sorely tempted to just turn this into a reborn controversial discussions thread. It's obviously needed.


Why not? Just update the OP/title and this could be the first topic
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Yes, his miracles, no.


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433 wrote:
Funky Munky wrote:
Sorely tempted to just turn this into a reborn controversial discussions thread. It's obviously needed.


Why not? Just update the OP/title and this could be the first topic


Because the last one we had descended into childish name calling and bitchiness.
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I don't think there is much doubt Jesus the person existed, now whether he was the Son of God or responsible for all of the miracles described in the bible is up to personal belief/debate.

But did he exist, yes.
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Funky Munky wrote:
433 wrote:
Funky Munky wrote:
Sorely tempted to just turn this into a reborn controversial discussions thread. It's obviously needed.


Why not? Just update the OP/title and this could be the first topic


Because the last one we had descended into childish name calling and bitchiness.


Much like most other threads on FFT :lol:

Just stipulate that there are to be no personal attacks. Bad idea I know, but it's worth a shot. :lol:
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For the people that think he did exist, what makes you think so?
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Yeah. I'll make a new thread though. No offense Notor, but I'd prefer you not have access to the thread title/OP. :p
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There's a fair bit of support from early historians within the Bible and on the other side of the fence with Roman historians touching on it, I've no doubt the MAN existed, whether or not he was what he claimed to be is the only thing up for dispute imo.
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notorganic wrote:
For the people that think he did exist, what makes you think so?


There is just too much evidence of him existing to discount the idea.
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Funky Munky wrote:
Yeah. I'll make a new thread though. No offense Notor, but I'd prefer you not have access to the thread title/OP. :p


Haha, fair.
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Yeah it is wiki, but it povides refrence links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Key_sources
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Fredsta wrote:
There's a fair bit of support from early historians within the Bible and on the other side of the fence with Roman historians touching on it, I've no doubt the MAN existed, whether or not he was what he claimed to be is the only thing up for dispute imo.

That's my opinion.
I'm not a Christian, but I have done a bit of theological study, both structured and non-structured. My issue with Christianity is more a personal thing, I can't commit to the lifestyle, however I have absolutely no doubt that there was a man Named Jesus who was the son of Joseph who travelled around claiming to be the Son of God and performed many things that both impressed and confused people. This man Jesus was eventually imprisoned, tried, and crucified by the Roman Empire. In a period of time after her died, roughly 500 people reported seeing Jesus of Nazareth.

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http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1690627&#1690627

Alright, let's try to be nice.
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