Snooki.

Who does?

And I certainly don't plan on being raped.

He's a white male. He'll be fine anyway.

Haven't yet been down there as I've never owned a car in my time there, but hope to do a roadtrip some day.

Stay away from Grozny and Makhachkala and you'll be fine.

Agree entirely. They may have freed her (and her alleged attacker, who was also imprisoned for sex outside marriage, not rape) to save face, but the underlying barbarism is there for all to see.

I'm off too Russia and back before the season starts, and it's via Vietnam.

Yes, the rapist has also been freed. The victim has been "pardoned".

The main thing is that she is free but the whole thing is completely fked up.

I guarantee that people will not learn from this and will continue to do business with a horror regime like that.

They can have it.

So was the alleged rapist.

She was freed after the international outcry. Well in.

I think a superstition calling something else a superstition is a tad ironic

Islam calls superstitions as just that, superstitions. Stupid and silly.

I can definitely agree with that.

Can't we all just agree that all superstitions, including Islam & Christianity, are fucking retarded?

Pre Christian traditions are alive and well in Western countries. Look no further than Christmas and Easter.

I'm sure superstitions mentioned in African countrys were common practice long before Christianity...

They similar and yes, Islam recognises the older books, but the religion is not based on them.



Keep trying, eventually the shoe will fit.

Edited by zimbos_05: 23/7/2013 03:39:11 PM

Yes, except many of those practices predate the missionaries by thousands of years and arent Christian at all.

Judaism, Islam and Christianity - the Abrahamic religions are all based around the same texts.

Hang on, what? Based on the old testatement? Where you getting this from?

Im no scholar on the quran so cant quote texts for you on homosexuality. It is my understanding that it does make reference to homosexuality.

Except Christianity in Africa is courtesy of the missionaries and only an advent of the last few centuries.

One could. Or that they're acting the same way as a result of not changing their culture for thousands of years.

I know Islam is based on the Old Testament/Mosaic Law which has some pretty hard line stances on homosexuality.
Does the Quran have no position on homosexuality?

Are you able to point out in the Koran where rape victims should be punished by being jailed?

How do you know what Islams core beliefs and practices are?

Hey look, that country has a death penalty if you gay, but we wont bother about that. That Islamic country on the other hand has the same law, death to all muslims and lets do away with the religion.

Interesting.
How recently was this law implemented for an actual case?
Are you able to point out in the New Testament where homosexuality is advocated to be punished by death?

Edited by ozboy: 23/7/2013 11:48:53 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This video is rife with inaccuracies. I will hopefully be able to address the issues raised in it.

1)Firstly, the quaran was not written by one man, but was revealed to one man over a period of 23 years. It was fully revealed in its entirety in the month of ramadan after that period as, the finished product if you will. Violent verses. Sure they exist, they were revealed at a time when the muslim were at war with the non believers. They were meant for the time. They not relevant anymore. The talk about later verses taking precedent over earlier verses, well it depends on how you understand that. If you think the first line in the quran is the verse to be revealed, then you wrong. The first line to be revealed is actually in the very last chapter of the quran. So the quran is not written, if you will, in the order in which it was revealed.

There are four schools of thought in Islam. Hanafi, Shafi, Hambali and Maliki. These four imams were prominent scholars who studied hadith and quran for decades. Muslims are either one of these four school. Neither school is wrong. The point im making here, is these men studied the quran and hadiths for decades in order to give us a better understanding. No average person can read the quran at face value and take it for what it is without understanding the commentary and meaning behind the verses. It requires constant and indepth study and understanding. There are people who do that nowdays, but as far as interpreting it to advocate and justificate a reason for actions, it cant be done. The four imams have set it out in stone as to how to practice and follow your religion. Once you start making your own rulings and assumptions, you fall under other schools of thought that are Salafi, Qaadiyani, Ahmadiya etc, which are not Islamic schools of thought and, as manys scholars claim, are no longer Islam but a new religion.

2) Shariah law. Ah yes, the age old issue. I like how everyone forgets that Shariah law states, and im paraphrasing here because im no scholar on Shariah law, Follow the laws and the rules of the land in which you preside. Straight away this negates any reason for Shariah Law to be brought in to non muslim countries. If you live in Australia and want to followe Shariah Law, then that means you follow Australian law. The issues that can cause problem are things like divorce. Im not sure the law on divorce, so correct me if im wrong, but its just done in a court witha judge and each side pleading their case?

In Islam, only a man can issue a divorce. This must be done three times. Im giving the very basic run down here. So if you issue one divorce, its not a divorce. If you issue a second, its not a divorce. If you issue a third, its then divorce. You can issue all three at one time too. The reason for the three issue rule is because some people can issue a divorce through anger or rage or other times when they dont actually mean it. Ive heard my dad say it to my mum, "maybe we should call it quits" but he never meant it. It was after his bypass and was under all sorts of medication and saying all kinds of things. Now he is fine. The reason for the divorce courts is in the instance where a wife would like to get the divorce and if the husband is refusing, then they can take it scholars on islamic law and deal with it in an Islamic manner. You get married under Islamic law and the law of your country, divorce should be the same.

3) Taqqiya. The new miscontrued word for those who hate Islam. Taqqiya is the denouncing of your religion when your life is at risk. If you are being threatened with your life unless you give up your religion, you can invoke Taqqiya until a time when you are safe to continue practicing your religion. So contrary to belief, taqqiya does not mean you hide and pretend not to practice your religion or you practie it peacefully until a time when you can strike or attack. That is not Taqqiya.

If people are going to make videos about Islam and encourage people to do their research, i suggest they do the same.



Hello. I am Zimbos. How can i help you?

I dont defend the acts of Dubai and that state. I dont agree with most of the actions and laws of the Arab Peninsula. if anything they are the worst example of Islam and Shariah Law countries. Turkey and Malaysia were slowly getting back on track and becoming good examples for Islamic countries, so dont throw all Muslim lands in one category.

I dont defend the actions, but if you plan on visiting the country, wherever you go, you need to respect the laws. I know its hard in cases of rape, but we know of issues already like this in which nothing has happened. I dont expect much to happen as i dont hold high hopes for the Arab Gulf at all. In fact, they sadden me everytime i think that they are supposed to be beacons for Islamic nations.

Choosing not to fly with Etihad and Emirates is your own choice, but you all know that Dubai and Abu Dhabi are the two central ports for which the majority of airlines fly through if you flying to or from Australia.

One could argue that undeveloped africa literally quoting the bible is the same as undeveloped middle eastern nations literal interpretations of texts.

Zionist Israel taking back land by force because God promised it to them.