paladisious
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Kids look ready to fuck shit up. :lol:
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Arthur
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Quote:Parents outraged over children caught in North Sunshine Eagles senior side ban after violent feud with another team by: Peter Rolfe From: Herald Sun August 07, 2013 12:01AM http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/parents-outraged-over-children-caught-in-north-sunshine-eagles-senior-side-ban-after-violent-feud-with-another-team/story-fni0fit3-1226692406409 Leonora, Arian, Kaine, Shaun, John and Alisha are all juniors from the North Sunshine Eagles which has been banned by after a feud between the senior team and another club. Picture: Stephen Harman Source: HeraldSun OUTRAGED parents of children caught in a suburban soccer club ban say they are being sidelined because of the violent actions of senior players. Women, children and masters teams have been caught offside by a year-long ban on North Sunshine Eagles soccer club imposed by Football Federation Victoria for a wild brawl that involved at least 60 people. The club has been kicked out of its local league, fined $15,000 and told its teams will have to start at the bottom of the ladder if they are ever allowed back on the park in what is believed to be the biggest penalty handed out to an amateur Victorian outfit. But parents say innocent children have been left in tears and searching for answers after being told they can no longer play the game they love with friends. The game's state governing body issued the no-nonsense penalty late last month, expelling the club for a spiteful clash after a senior men's match against Sporting Whittlesea, which is still being investigated by police. Female player and mum of three junior players Miriana Briskovic said women's and veterans' team members were furious they had been punished for something they had nothing to do with, but they were most concerned about the children. "It rips your heart out because they're so upset," she said. "They were in tears when they found out, they were begging the coaches to let them play and saying 'we will do better' when it was nothing they had even done." Football Federation Victoria chief executive Mitchell Murphy saidviolence would not be tolerated in the sport and vowed to take similar tough action in the future. "If you are a thug you are not welcome at any football matches," he said. But St Albans mum Michelle O'Brien, whose sons, Kain, 7, Shaun, 8, and Mark, 10, turned up to training to be told they could no longer play, said the children were devastated. "They're shattered because soccer is their life," she said. "It's a bit hard for them to understand because they haven't done anything wrong so why should they be punished?" The club intends to appeal its punishment, which also includes all members being forced to undertake respect and responsibility courses. A father and son were among several people harmed in the mass melee between players, spectators and match officials on Saturday, June 29, at Larissa Reserve. peter.rolfe@news.com.au
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Arthur
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Quote:http://www.brimbank.vic.gov.au/Recreation/Sport_and_Recreation/Brimbank_Sports_Awards
2013 Brimbank Sports Award Winners:
Category 2013 Winner Athlete of the Year Jilven Dias - Keilor Little Athletics Centre 2013 Runner Up Gabrielle Mifsud - Sunshine Softball Association Sporting Volunteer of the Year Bridgette Grindlay - Grand United Cricket Club 2013 Runner Up Vince Sposato - Sunshine Heights Football Club Coach of the Year Dean Chamberlain - Grand United Cricket Club 2013 Runner Up Steve Burns - Taylors Lakes Football Club Club of the Year Sunshine Heights Cricket Club 2013 Runner Up Keilor Little Athletics Centre Most Improved Club of the Year Sunshine Park Tennis Club 2013 Runner Up North Sunshine Eagles Soccer Club
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Benjamin
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Heart_fan wrote:Benjamin wrote:... And NSE are back in, for two weeks, pending the appeal. Drove past last night and they were training so I thought this must have happened. That rule has to change. Blame should only go to those found to be guilty of a violent act, not the club/venue. Lets hope this ends well for NSE. Edited by heart_fan: 31/7/2013 10:41:38 PM Agree with all of that. And even in the event that it WAS the fault of NSE, I'd still say that kicking the whole club out - punishing the juniors and womens teams, for something that happened at a 1st team game, is over the top. Punish those who offend, not those who are associated with them.
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Benjamin wrote:... And NSE are back in, for two weeks, pending the appeal. Drove past last night and they were training so I thought this must have happened. That rule has to change. Blame should only go to those found to be guilty of a violent act, not the club/venue. Lets hope this ends well for NSE. Edited by heart_fan: 31/7/2013 10:41:38 PM
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... And NSE are back in, for two weeks, pending the appeal.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Benjamin wrote:Heart_fan wrote:Sad to the the NSE end up in this position as they have been doing fairly well in building up the club in recent years.
Being a fairly local club to me It is disappointing but I can only hope the club will rebuild.
As for Sporting, if its their 3rd incident this year, I do wonder how things can't be proved in any of these cases that no blame sits with them. Very odd. FFV's policy is that the host club is ALWAYS responsible, no matter who causes the incident or what the incident is (this is one of the reasons South made their game with Preston members only) - interestingly, the only exception the FFV have made to this rule was when they/Heart were the hosts of the VPL Grand Final last year, when they decided that the blame was not with the hosts, but with the people who actually committed the offense. Or so it was alleged. Where was any proper investigation done? They automatically assumed because there was an effnik club that it was their responsibility. Stupid pricks. With all due respect - pretty much everyone who was at the game, and many involved with Thunder, accepts that it was Thunder fans who set off the flares (which went off as Thunder scored the winning goal, from the area where the most active Thunder fans were sitting). The only real issue was about who should be responsible for crowd control. As I said before, this is the only time to my knowledge that the FFV have ruled that the offending club, rather than the host club, were responsible. Probably because the 'host' was the FFV themselves.
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Benjamin wrote:
FFV's policy is that the host club is ALWAYS responsible, no matter who causes the incident or what the incident is (this is one of the reasons South made their game with Preston members only) - interestingly, the only exception the FFV have made to this rule was when they/Heart were the hosts of the VPL Grand Final last year, when they decided that the blame was not with the hosts, but with the people who actually committed the offense.
That policy is great! and is very useful for clubs like Sporting Whittlesea who know this policy very well and go around to other clubs; provoke and start fights or "wild brawls" apparently get "bashed" then run straight to the media (which is forbidden according to the FFV), police and FFV. A filthy dirty tactic which is supported by the FFV. But then again, a double standard perhaps?, what a surprise! http://frankston-leader.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/football-federation-overturns-bans-on-st-albans-saints-and-frankston-pines/
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TheSelectFew
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Benjamin wrote:Heart_fan wrote:Sad to the the NSE end up in this position as they have been doing fairly well in building up the club in recent years.
Being a fairly local club to me It is disappointing but I can only hope the club will rebuild.
As for Sporting, if its their 3rd incident this year, I do wonder how things can't be proved in any of these cases that no blame sits with them. Very odd. FFV's policy is that the host club is ALWAYS responsible, no matter who causes the incident or what the incident is (this is one of the reasons South made their game with Preston members only) - interestingly, the only exception the FFV have made to this rule was when they/Heart were the hosts of the VPL Grand Final last year, when they decided that the blame was not with the hosts, but with the people who actually committed the offense. Or so it was alleged. Where was any proper investigation done? They automatically assumed because there was an effnik club that it was their responsibility. Stupid pricks.
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Benjamin
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Heart_fan wrote:Sad to the the NSE end up in this position as they have been doing fairly well in building up the club in recent years.
Being a fairly local club to me It is disappointing but I can only hope the club will rebuild.
As for Sporting, if its their 3rd incident this year, I do wonder how things can't be proved in any of these cases that no blame sits with them. Very odd. FFV's policy is that the host club is ALWAYS responsible, no matter who causes the incident or what the incident is (this is one of the reasons South made their game with Preston members only) - interestingly, the only exception the FFV have made to this rule was when they/Heart were the hosts of the VPL Grand Final last year, when they decided that the blame was not with the hosts, but with the people who actually committed the offense.
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I have been a part of north sunshine eagles soccer club on and off for the past 21 years. I can honestly say that in the last 3 years, this club has never looked so good both on and off the ground. The guys in the current committee picked up that club from the brink of closure. They put their heads together and along with hard work, picked this club up from falling apart. Although this club has been operating since the Mid 70's, it was 3 years ago that i ever saw a mission statement from this club.
It was for the first time i saw a 2 year, 4 year and a 6 year plan to help this club grow. It was the first time i saw a woman's team at this club. It was the first time i saw a masters team at this club. It was the first time i saw 4 juniors teams at this club. It was the first time i saw families from both sides attend games at the club. And i can honestly say, its the first club i have seen with a huge jumping castle For all kids to play in. Not even victory has a jumping castle.
Ffv. Surely you cant be serious!!!!! You couldn't have got it so wrong. Where was ffv to help the club? Running a club voluntarily is extremely hard. And this committee has done a great Job doing the best they can with limited time and man power.
Ffv, you should take a leaf out of N.S.E.S.C. Maybe then you may earn some respect.
Good on you for punishing the girls and kids. Not to mention the hard work the seniors and reserve teams have put in.
Stop punishing teams and start helping them. Only then will you be respected.
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Heart_fan
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Sad to the the NSE end up in this position as they have been doing fairly well in building up the club in recent years.
Being a fairly local club to me It is disappointing but I can only hope the club will rebuild.
As for Sporting, if its their 3rd incident this year, I do wonder how things can't be proved in any of these cases that no blame sits with them. Very odd.
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sqn wrote:what did sporting Whittlesea get from the FFV for being involved in this brawl?
i have heard sporting have been involved in 3 incidents this year, is this correct?
if this is correct under the FFV's "zero tolerance rule" shouldn't sporting whittlesea's ground be a new housing estate or doesnt it work like that? This is what people have been saying. Sporting were the instigators and have been doing this kind of thing for awhile now. I was not there but even the penalty is rash. FFV are supposed to be promoting junior football and smaller clubs, not destroying them.
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what did sporting Whittlesea get from the FFV for being involved in this brawl?
i have heard sporting have been involved in 3 incidents this year, is this correct?
if this is correct under the FFV's "zero tolerance rule" shouldn't sporting whittlesea's ground be a new housing estate or doesnt it work like that?
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mltezr wrote:ridiculous decision. no wonder why FFV is a joke.
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ridiculous decision. no wonder why FFV is a joke.
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what actually happend ?
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Joffa wrote:Wow! Clubs certainly can't say they're not aware of FFV's tough stance on anti social behaviour, but even so a very tough penalty. FFV's stance has been very strong on a number of crowd related incidents - this one was (by all reports) considerably worse than anything we've had in Victoria for quite some time, and it came at a time that the FFV are losing control of the game... They had to stamp down hard to exert some authority. Considering the FFV's record in recent years (they keep losing court challenges), it will be interesting to see whether the clubs appeal (and on what grounds).
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Wow! Clubs certainly can't say they're not aware of FFV's tough stance on anti social behaviour, but even so a very tough penalty.
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FFV wrote:NORTH SUNSHINE EAGLES EXPELLED AS PART OF FFV'S ZERO TOLERANCE APPROACH Football Federation Victoria’s (FFV) Independent Tribunal on Friday 26 July expelled North Sunshine Eagles until 31 December 2013 following a violent incident between it and Sporting Whittlesea on 29 June 2013. All North Sunshine Eagles teams’ points have been deducted effective immediately. The club has been ordered to pay a fine of fifteen thousand dollars and all members have been ordered to undertake FFV’s Respect and Responsibility course prior to any possible consideration of re-admission. North Sunshine Eagles may apply to return as a new club from the bottom of the leagues in 2014. The club has three business days to appeal the decision. Sporting Whittlesea has not been penalised, as none of its charges were proven. FFV confirms Victoria Police is also continuing its investigation. FFV takes a zero tolerance approach to anyone acting in an anti-social manner at football matches. FFV is committed to ensuring community football matches uphold community standards and provide a safe and family friendly environment which allows players, officials and spectators to enjoy the game. FFV CEO Mitchell Murphy said FFV would not tolerate violence and would continue to send the same message to those that are unable to control their temper - if you are a thug you are not welcome at any football matches. “Football fans have a right to watch a game free of antagonistic and violent behaviour,” Murphy said.“Unfortunately, violence is still a society issue and football is not the only code having to deal with poor behaviour. Anyone found to be violent and putting the game in disrepute will face the consequences. If you choose to misbehave you will be investigated and face the judgement from the Independent Tribunal. “Whilst it is pleasing to see incidents of this nature decreasing 38 per cent in the past five years due to FFV’s continued commitment to the Zero Tolerance policy, one incident is still too many. “FFV is committed to investigating any allegations of misconduct. On the basis that allegations are proven, penalties may include but not be limited to suspensions, fines, point deductions, relegations and in extreme cases club expulsions and individual life bans.”
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