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Fancy a Sir John Bertrand or a posthumous Sir Johnny Warren? Dame Libby Trickett perhaps? I’m not against this idea, I must say. Quote:KNIGHTS and dames are being reintroduced to the Order of Australia honours list. Tony Abbott said the first two to receive the titles would be outgoing Governor-General Quentin Bryce and her successor Peter Cosgrove, who takes up the vice-regal office on Friday. Up to four knights or dames will be appointed each year. “My intention is that this new award will go to those who have accepted public office rather than sought it; and who can never, by virtue of the office they have held, entirely return to private life,’’ the Prime Minister said. “This special recognition may be extended to Australians of `extraordinary and pre-eminent achievement and merit’ in their service to Australia or to humanity at large. “I believe this is an important grace note in our national life.’’ Henceforth, Mr Abbott said, the serving governor-general will be the principal knight or dame in the Order of Australia. Mr Abbott said Dame Quentin and Sir Peter had been happy to accept the honours. He said all future governors-general would receive the honour, adding dignity and stature to it. Mr Abbott did not say if former governors-general would receive the honour. He did not rule out politicians becoming a knight or dame, saying he didn’t want to pre-empt who may be considered worthy of the honour. Mr Abbott defended his decision, saying it would enhance the dignity of the existing system. “I don’t think it’s really any surprise,’’ he said. The Prime Minister said the Queen had approved his recommendation to amend the Letters Patent constituting the Order of Australia. The chairman of the Order of Australia Council will be consulted on any such recommendation. Mr Abbott said the change would not affect existing companions, officers or members of the Order of Australia. New Zealand had allowed existing Companions in the Order of New Zealand to convert to knighthoods, but this would not happen with the Australian changes, he said. Knights and dames of the Order of Australia were created by the Fraser Coalition government in 1976, but scrapped by the Hawke Labor government in 1986. During that period 12 knights and two dames were appointed. Shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus said the move showed the government was rushing back to the 19th century. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/knights-and-dames-to-again-be-part-of-honours-system/story-fn59niix-1226864499560
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Tony Abbott: "I am introducing the title Sir. Then i am going to appoint myself as one and you will all have to bow down to me whilst i stand on the beach in my budgie smugglers."
On a side note, not against the idea. It must go to deserving people though. Can totally see this being abused and the likes of John Howard, Anna Bligh, Campbell Newman being awarded this.
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Carlito
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One person who deserves a Dame is that doctor who made the second skin so that burns victims can somewhat feel normal again . She has done some wonders for the Bali bombing victims . Also need to go to Charles teo . The guy operates on t untouchables that other brain surgeons don't want to touch m sports stars I wouldn't give to . But in saying that the late Johnny Warren deserves it .
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What a fucking joke. Are we Australians or Britain's little brother? What a backward step. It's bad enough another country's flag is on our flag and now this. When will will grow up? What next? Pictures of the Queen above the door in schools again and God Save the Queen as our national anthem? I'm old enough to remember these things at school and when they were phased out and now this fool is bringing them back. We already have a perfectly good system in place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Australia Edited by munrubenmuz: 25/3/2014 05:52:24 PM
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Carlito
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I don't mind the sirs and dames but only to those who truly deserve it . Ie Dr Charles teo and that plastic surgeon who perfected rhe second skin.
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zimbos_05 wrote:Tony Abbott: "I am introducing the title Sir. Then i am going to appoint myself as one and you will all have to bow down to me whilst i stand on the beach in my budgie smugglers."
On a side note, not against the idea. It must go to deserving people though. Can totally see this being abused and the likes of John Howard, Anna Bligh, Campbell Newman being awarded this. Well they've started with a leftie in Quentin Bryce. Not against the idea. I suppose Munrubenmuz would prefer we changed the title to "Cobber" to make it less British sounding. Cobber Howard? It might catch on.
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Cobber Howard:lol: How bout Cobber Julia Gillard :lol: or Cobber thupercoach;)
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Munrubenmuz wrote:What a fucking joke. Are we Australians or Britain's little brother? What a backward step. It's bad enough another country's flag is on our flag and now this. When will will grow up? What next? Pictures of the Queen above the door in schools again and God Save the Queen as our national anthem? I'm old enough to remember these things at school and when they were phased out and now this fool is bringing them back. We already have a perfectly good system in place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Australia Edited by munrubenmuz: 25/3/2014 05:52:24 PM This post.... LOL
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What is wrong with Dr Teo A.O.? We're Australian not British. Against a republic too?
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As a general leftie on most issues who wouldn't be all that upset if we ever got around to getting rid of the British Monarchy in Australia, I'm glad that we've given ourself access again to the highest honours to those deserving available under that system. It's no fun without it.
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thupercoach wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Tony Abbott: "I am introducing the title Sir. Then i am going to appoint myself as one and you will all have to bow down to me whilst i stand on the beach in my budgie smugglers."
On a side note, not against the idea. It must go to deserving people though. Can totally see this being abused and the likes of John Howard, Anna Bligh, Campbell Newman being awarded this. Well they've started with a leftie in Quentin Bryce. Not against the idea. I suppose Munrubenmuz would prefer we changed the title to "Cobber" to make it less British sounding. Cobber Howard? It might catch on. Strewth! Can there be a negative version for bad Australians? Edited by paladisious: 25/3/2014 06:08:31 PM
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I say we make Kevin airs a sir !!!
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I say we make Kevin airs a sir !!! Give him a fair shake of the sir's bottle. Thought you said Kevin Rudd. Still funny but. Edited by paladisious: 25/3/2014 06:17:22 PM
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Munrubenmuz wrote:What is wrong with Dr Teo A.O.?
We're Australian not British. Against a republic too? I dont care on the Republic, but going on a rant about bringing back sirs and dames will lead to us adopting the pound again is just really stupidly funny
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I'm not sure how old you blokes are but just to explain why I'm going off here's a bit of background. In the 70's when I grew up Australians had the hugest cultural cringe you could imagine. We were always looking to Britain and the mother country for approval. Our art, architecture, science and any achievement you could think of was no good unless it got the nod of approval from someone in the UK. God Save the Queen was the national anthem and we sang it every day when the flag was raised. There was a picture of the Queen over every doorway at school and just about every where else. ABC presenters spoke with a British accent as Australian accents were deemed inappropriate for the radio. Everything in Australia was looked at through the prism of the UK. It was only in 1965 that our PM Robert Menzies declared Australians "British to our bootstraps". In the 60's pre-decimal currency the "royal" was proposed to replace the "pounds" after decimalisation. Fortunately saner heads prevailed and we got 'dollars' instead. We've been shafted in 2 World Wars by the British (didn't even have command of our own troops in WW1 until 1918), we didn't have our own flag and we'd just gotten out of another war that we'd been dragged into by our new best friends the USA. 1988 came along and a wave of patriotism swept the country and for a short while it looked like we'd become a republic and have our own flag. Paul Keating was hugely responsible for a lot of Australian pride back in the day. Keating explained why we should stand on our own 2 feet as a proud, multicultural, young independent country. The monarchy is an outdated, anachronistic institution based on a lottery of birth that has had it's day. And now after all the progress we've made somehow we're going back to the 50's. It's very disappointing. Edited by munrubenmuz: 25/3/2014 06:37:40 PM
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Assuming it's just for living recipients, my first thoughts are: Ian Frazer (Cervical cancer vaccine) Elizabeth Blackburn (2009 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Barry J. Marshall (2005 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) J. Robin Warren (2005 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Peter C. Doherty (1996 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Brian P. Schmidt (2011 Nobel Prize for Physics, proved the the accelerating expansion of the Universe)
Lots of artists should get it for their contribution, my best knowledge is of our film industry and would include Baz Luhrmann,Peter Weir, Cate Blanchett, Nicole Kidman, Geoffrey Rush, Hugh Jackman, Andrew Lesnie...
And then the sticker topic of athletes. I think nobody would be against having a Dame Cathy Freeman, but how about Sir Steven Bradbury, Mark Waugh, Ange Postecoglue?
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Sir Archie Thompson ayyyy
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jlm8695 wrote:Sir Archie Thompson ayyyy
[youtube]1wg9ox9F7Vw[/youtube] Fuck oath. The 13th anniversary of that is on April 11th, what better timing do you want?
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On a serious note, if an Englishman got Archie's record they'd knight him quick smart.
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paladisious wrote:Assuming it's just for living recipients, my first thoughts are: Ian Frazer (Cervical cancer vaccine) Elizabeth Blackburn (2009 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Barry J. Marshall (2005 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) J. Robin Warren (2005 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Peter C. Doherty (1996 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Brian P. Schmidt (2011 Nobel Prize for Physics, proved the the accelerating expansion of the Universe)
Lots of artists should get it for their contribution, my best knowledge is of our film industry and would include Baz Luhrmann,Peter Weir, Cate Blanchett, Nicole Kidman, Geoffrey Rush, Hugh Jackman, Andrew Lesnie...
And then the sticker topic of athletes. I think nobody would be against having a Dame Cathy Freeman, but how about Sir Steven Bradbury, Mark Waugh, Ange Postecoglue? :oops:
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ricecrackers wrote::oops: Solid argument.
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paladisious wrote:ricecrackers wrote::oops: Solid argument. Probably his best yet though tbf :lol:
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jlm8695 wrote:paladisious wrote:ricecrackers wrote::oops: Solid argument. Probably his best yet though tbf :lol: His bests posts are when he enters even less than that.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:I'm not sure how old you blokes are but just to explain why I'm going off here's a bit of background.
In the 70's when I grew up Australians had the hugest cultural cringe you could imagine. We were always looking to Britain and the mother country for approval. Our art, architecture, science and any achievement you could think of was no good unless it got the nod of approval from someone in the UK.
God Save the Queen was the national anthem and we sang it every day when the flag was raised. There was a picture of the Queen over every doorway at school and just about every where else.
ABC presenters spoke with a British accent as Australian accents were deemed inappropriate for the radio.
Everything in Australia was looked at through the prism of the UK. It was only in 1965 that our PM Robert Menzies declared Australians "British to our bootstraps".
In the 60's pre-decimal currency the "royal" was proposed to replace the "pounds" after decimalisation. Fortunately saner heads prevailed and we got 'dollars' instead.
We've been shafted in 2 World Wars by the British (didn't even have command of our own troops in WW1 until 1918), we didn't have our own flag and we'd just gotten out of another war that we'd been dragged into by our new best friends the USA.
1988 came along and a wave of patriotism swept the country and for a short while it looked like we'd become a republic and have our own flag.
Paul Keating was hugely responsible for a lot of Australian pride back in the day. Keating explained why we should stand on our own 2 feet as a proud, multicultural, young independent country.
The monarchy is an outdated, anachronistic institution based on a lottery of birth that has had it's day.
And now after all the progress we've made somehow we're going back to the 50's.
It's very disappointing.
Edited by munrubenmuz: 25/3/2014 06:37:40 PM This so much. When I visited the UK 4 years ago for 8 weeks, I worked out pretty quickly that Australia has surpassed the UK in just about every matter. They should adopt our titles. Edited by u4486662: 25/3/2014 07:42:52 PMEdited by u4486662: 25/3/2014 08:23:03 PM
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RedKat wrote:paladisious wrote:Assuming it's just for living recipients, my first thoughts are: Ian Frazer (Cervical cancer vaccine) Elizabeth Blackburn (2009 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Barry J. Marshall (2005 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) J. Robin Warren (2005 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Peter C. Doherty (1996 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine) Brian P. Schmidt (2011 Nobel Prize for Physics, proved the the accelerating expansion of the Universe)
Lots of artists should get it for their contribution, my best knowledge is of our film industry and would include Baz Luhrmann,Peter Weir, Cate Blanchett, Nicole Kidman, Geoffrey Rush, Hugh Jackman, Andrew Lesnie...
And then the sticker topic of athletes. I think nobody would be against having a Dame Cathy Freeman, but how about Sir Steven Bradbury, Mark Waugh, Ange Postecoglue? If we are actually going to go with it theres things that people dont really need a knighthood for. What is so mighty about a contribution to sport or music that deserves the title? EXACTLY. Some poor doctor busting his arse in a research lab somewhere getting paid a pittance and they're giving out awards to such luminaries as Steve Waugh, Allan Border, Mark Taylor, Patrick Rafter (tennis). Pretty much being the Australian cricket captain guaranteed you an Australian of the year award. Not saying they're not worthy but there are many, many more worthy people doing the most amazing things for either the love of it or next to nothing. Fred Hollows, Fiona Stanley, Ian Frazer, Gustav Nossal. Big BiG ticks. Lee Kernaghan?! WTF! Admittedly the Australian of the year committee started to get it right for about a decade and then lo and behold they gave it to another bloody sportsman this year. It's no surprise really. It's how we Australians judge ourselves on the world stage. It's not, look how smart or wonderful we are but have a go at how our sportsmen kick your sportsmen's arses. I love sport. Pretty much all sport. But as Australians of the year, or strike me down, "knights of the realm", friggin stop the world, I want to get off. Edited by munrubenmuz: 25/3/2014 08:03:09 PM
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Dame Rebecca Wilson.
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My mate is a Lord coz he owns land in Scotland. -PB
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Arise sir ricecrackers.. wait he probably be embarrassed with this whole shit .
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Constitutional Monarchy is the best system, why would we leave it?
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