Proud Australian patriotism not a cause for shame


Proud Australian patriotism not a cause for shame

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Proud Australian patriotism not a cause for shame

Andrew Bolt
Herald Sun
October 15, 2014 9:00PM


‘It may be crude and even provocative, but “if you don’t love it leave” begins to sound like Socrates against this exhausted toying with totalitarianism,’ writes Andrew Bolt.


PATRIOTISM has been declared racist. Just when we must insist Australia is worth defending, we’re told only scum would say so.

Greens deputy leader Adam Bandt was outraged this week that two Woolworths outlets sold singlets printed with the Australian flag and “If you don’t love it leave”.

Bandt reposted a tweet blasting these “racist singlets”, fanning the fury of the Twitter Left.

Woolworths took instant fright, declaring the patriotic slogan “totally unacceptable” and promising to never again sell such a wicked thing.

But exactly how is the singlet racist? Which “race” does it attack? Which “race” does Bandt think hates Australia so much that they are the obvious target?

No, the haters of the singlet are not trying to protect some Australia-hating “race” they cannot even identify and would insult if they tried.

They are instead offended by patriotism. They are instead vilifying proud Australians who cannot understand why people who openly shout they loathe this land don’t try their luck somewhere else in a world full of options.

Yet it was only nine years ago that this sentiment was still acceptable enough for even Australia’s longest-serving treasurer, Peter Costello, to voice it. Costello was puzzled why some extremist Muslims, especially immigrants, were demanding sharia law — extremists such as Hizb ut-Tahrir leader Ismael al-Wahwah, who wants Australia under a caliphate in which “those who are guilty of apostasy ... from Islam are to be executed”, according to his party’s website.

Said Costello: “Our laws are made by the Australian Parliament. If those are not your values, if you want a country which has sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you.”

Or as the Woolies singlet sums up, if you don’t love us, leave. But now the invitation Costello offered is “totally unacceptable”.

What’s helped to change the climate is the media coverage of the 2005 Cronulla riot. That was mischaracterised as a racist uprising by flag-waving white Australians, rather than an ugly reaction to a minority of ethnic Lebanese youths throwing their weight around.

Now the flag, flown from a house or car, is seen as the summonsing to a racist riot.

Adding to the angst is that mass immigration and the Age of Terror have left us with more ethnic tensions than ever since Federation. The Left particularly seems to fear that peace is now so fragile that just showing the flag is like showing a red rag to a paddock of foreign bulls.

And yes, some Australians do indeed now feel threatened by what immigration and multiculturalism have wrought. The backlash one day could be ugly.

But the trashing of patriotism goes far beyond this often exaggerated fear of bogans carrying flags. Take the campaign even by schools to promote a retribalising of Australia, symbolised by the flying of the Aboriginal flag alongside the Australian one.

Add also extreme multiculturalism, which most rewards the ethnic groups that most keep their distance.

Then add the constant preaching of a largely invented history of genocide, “stolen generations”, racism and environmental devastation until Australia seems faintly disgusting.

So it’s not surprising that Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s appeal for a “Team Australia” was widely mocked by the Left, even though I’m sure most voters backed it.

In fact, the very idea of such a nation state is starting to strike “progressives” and the “alienated” as so last century.

LAST weekend, the ABC’s Encounter program explored what life would be like under a caliphate instead.

“If you’re not a Muslim, it might seem all rather in-house and speculative,” presenter David Rutledge conceded.

“But if you consider that the nation state — like many other products of secular modernity — is beginning to look like a concept whose time could be drawing to a close, then suddenly the caliphate seems less like a medieval fantasy and more like, well, the future.”

It may be crude and even provocative, but “if you don’t love it leave” begins to sound like Socrates against this exhausted toying with totalitarianism.

It is also more likely to be just what we need.

Powerful forces today threaten to tear Australians apart, with calls for jihad, sharia law, treaties with the “First Australians”, new racist divisions in the constitution and more mass immigration of the kind that now looks like colonisation.

No society can survive such threats without prizing its past and its symbols and without insisting what members have in common is far greater than what divides them.

Sure, we must stay open to criticism, to make a great country greater.

But don’t love it? Then, please, feel free to leave.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/proud-australian-patriotism-not-a-cause-for-shame/story-fni0ffxg-1227091615244


Edited by Joffa: 15/10/2014 10:59:53 PM
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I agree with the T shirt to be honest. ( I await the calls of being a racist) If you choose to move to another country built on very different ideals and values, you shouldn't expect things to change just because you asked for it.

Why should we be so welcoming?

I dare one of you to take your girlfriend to Saudi Arabia and have her skull a beer in her bikini, they probably wouldn't be so welcoming I don't think.

Heck take a sip from your water bottle in the middle of Dubai Mall during Ramadan and see how long it takes the police to give you a visit.

This is Straya cunt, if you dont like it, leave :)
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RedKat wrote:
Read the first paragraph got angry at its stupidity look at the author and realise its to be expected.


Why did you get angry ?
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Patriotism isn't racist.

Its just the majority of people who like to make their patriotism known are racist.
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Last refuge of a scoundrel etc etc.


Member since 2008.


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It's bogan, classless nationalism.

But it's clearly not racism.

It's like when people claim criticism of religion is racism. It seems anything that someone finds offensive gets blasted as being racist without anyone understanding the meaning of the word.
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T-shirt slogan is racist but I reserve the right to judge anyone that wears it to be a bogan and probably racist ;)

Edited by mcjules: 16/10/2014 10:04:30 AM

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I always thought it was directed at old cunts who complain about how shit modern Australia is compared to the good old days.
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notorganic wrote:
I always thought it was directed at old cunts who complain about how shit modern Australia is compared to the good old days.


Nah just the Jimmys

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The slogan isn't racist, but odds are if you wear it, you are.
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The slogan isn't racist, but odds are if you wear it, you are.

Odds on that you might be a houso too.:lol:
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:
If you're buying your clothes from woolies, you're definitely a houso :lol:

Hundy percent :lol:
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They have good specials on socks sometimes :D
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Read the first paragraph got angry at its stupidity look at the author and realise its to be expected.


Why did you get angry ?


Cause Andrew Bolt is quite intelligent and well-spoken (for a conservative) and that pisses off left-wing people to no end.

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sydneyfc1987 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
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Read the first paragraph got angry at its stupidity look at the author and realise its to be expected.


Why did you get angry ?


Cause Andrew Bolt is quite intelligent and well-spoken (for a conservative) and that pisses off left-wing people to no end.


lolwat
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Read the first paragraph got angry at its stupidity look at the author and realise its to be expected.


Why did you get angry ?


Cause Andrew Bolt is quite intelligent and well-spoken (for a conservative) and that pisses off left-wing people to no end.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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there's nothing wrong with the shirt, just that the large majority of people that buy it have another agenda
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So much wank in 1 page.

People who denounce nationalism like it's somehow wrong are the worst.

Edited by benelsmore: 16/10/2014 08:26:10 PM
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benelsmore wrote:
So much wank in 1 page.

People who denounce nationalism like it's somehow wrong are the worst.

Edited by benelsmore: 16/10/2014 08:26:10 PM


Agreed.

And I'm sure most of them come State of Origin time would happily tell someone from the opposite state to fuck off :lol:
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Roar #1 wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
So much wank in 1 page.

People who denounce nationalism like it's somehow wrong are the worst.

Edited by benelsmore: 16/10/2014 08:26:10 PM


Agreed.

And I'm sure most of them come State of Origin time would happily tell someone from the opposite state to fuck off :lol:


Too many hipster cunts that only care about how much it looks like the salvo's dressed them or how fucking homeless they look with a beard.

Edited by benelsmore: 16/10/2014 08:37:19 PM
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Nothing wrong with being proud on being aussie. The problem is some people use it for different means ie fuck off were full . Or English we speak it here
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Nothing wrong with being proud on being aussie. The problem is some people use it for different means ie fuck off were full . Or English we speak it here


We do speak english here. Any attempt to speak english is appreciated (or should be).

Kind of rich though given 99% of the people who go on contiki tours can't speak a word of the local.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Nothing wrong with being proud on being aussie. The problem is some people use it for different means ie fuck off were full . Or English we speak it here


So are you happy to just throw the door open and let everyone in?

Be careful, if you say no you'll be called a racist.
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Despite what the left will tell you, there is literally nothing wrong with being proud of your country.
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Equally, there is also nothing wrong with being ashamed of your country.
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Roar #1 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Nothing wrong with being proud on being aussie. The problem is some people use it for different means ie fuck off were full . Or English we speak it here


So are you happy to just throw the door open and let everyone in?

Be careful, if you say no you'll be called a racist.

The same people who say fuck off we're are the same idiots who complain they can't get jobs. Ask them will they work in a dead end job and most say no , I deserve something better . I'm all for being proud but don't use it to slander. Those same people complain people don't want to learn English but at the same time they can't be arsed to learn another language if overseas .
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benelsmore wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Nothing wrong with being proud on being aussie. The problem is some people use it for different means ie fuck off were full . Or English we speak it here


We do speak english here. Any attempt to speak english is appreciated (or should be).

Kind of rich though given 99% of the people who go on contiki tours can't speak a word of the local.

I agree but there are old Italians , Greeks , euro ' who barely speak English but Noone says anything about them
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The real problem with 'love it or leave'

If you don't love it, leave ... yes, but love what exactly?

That's the trouble with the sort of angry insistence in slogans like that, in the script so famously plastered on the blue Aussie flag singlet momentarily offered for sale in two Woolworths stores this week.

The real issue being not so much the threat of eviction, but the sense of certainty behind the definition of "it" ... this country, us.

What and where is this Australia we must either love or leave? Presumably it's not the almost unconsciously tolerant, effusively multicultural, free, liberal and accepting reality ... where is the tension in that Australia? Where is the possible cause of offence so grave that expulsion is the only remedy?

Love it or leave it.

According to Miranda Devine, writing in the Daily Telegraph:

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The self-appointed tolerance tsars of Australia are having such a hard time proving Australia is a land of bigots they are now jumping at shadows. They see racism where most people see patriotism ... Take the "racist singlet" furore whipped up by Greens MP Adam Bandt. "If you don't love it, leave" says the caption under an Australian flag ­ emblazoned on a blue singlet sold at Woolworths. Nothing racist about that. It's a call to patriotism.

Under the headline, "Letting minorities gag the majority" Andrew Bolt asks:

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Exactly which "race" would be offended? Or is the real crime to be patriotic?

The real crime, quite possibly, is both the appropriation of the very idea of Australia and the empowering of the splinter of the population holding that view with the right to decide who should stay and who should go.

The truth of love it or leave it lies there: this is not a consensus conclusion but the angry protest of a minority who feel their view of what constitutes "Australia" is under challenge. Love it or leave it is a gesture of indignity and affront.

It rankles not so much because it's racist, or bigoted, but because it is so weirdly distant from the truth: a hostile defence of an idea of this country that either never truly existed or has long since been transformed by the march of people, ideas and simple time.

And the truth of this Australia is its best defence, its happy momentum is unstoppable. The anger of love it or leave is clear proof that the Australian project is a progressive and transforming enterprise.

Midweek John Howard and Janet Albrechtsen performed for the Menzies Research Centre, an event live tweeted by Miranda Devine. The former PM was asked for his views on multiculturalism.

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Howard: I'm not a fan of multiculturalism. I'm a fan of multiracialism ... but once people are here they should become Australian.
Love it or leave.

And how deeply strange ... once people are here what else might they be but "Australian"? This is the essence of the conservative discomfort, that our reality unfolds and is constantly transformed. The idea of a country is drawn from the sum of the people in it, the accumulation of all their aspiration, it's an idea moulded by their present, not a fixed point of nostalgia and constraint.

A country is inherently progressive, a notion that evolves with the people and ideas it contains. The inertia in that process is the sort of conservatism so angry at that transformation it is driven to the threat of love it or leave; a conservatism that fixes on an imagined figment, a precious impression of the past.

It's conservatism found on both sides of politics, in an ALP driven by the power elite parlour games of trade unions that represent a dwindling fraction of the population, or in a Howard view that imagines the country as a service station forecourt filled with happy families in Holden sedans.

The anger behind love it or leave is at the prospect of change and the loss of a reality that is essentially imagined, or narrowly self-reflective and nostalgic.

It's not patriotism, but something sadder, paranoid and uncertain.

It's anger at the inevitability that it won't be them who either love it or leave, but you.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-16/green-the-real-problem-with-love-it-or-leave/5817226


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