A second wave of retesting from the last two Olympics has found 43 positives making 98 positive tests in total from retesting.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/36866141


Doping practitioner Stephen Dank's house in Melbourne was shot at and he was slightly injured.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/former-essendon-sports-scientist-stephen-dank-reportedly-shot-in-ascot-vale-20160722-gqc46l.html

Socawho.

Sorry. Thought it was the Dopey thread.



Edited by toughlove: 24/7/2016 12:40:44 AM

Russian team of 387 athletes will be banned from competing at the Rio Olympics as punishment for their country’s state-sponsored doping programme

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3705101/ENTIRE-Russian-team-387-athletes-banned-competing-Rio-Olympics-punishment-country-s-state-sponsored-doping-programme.html

lets see if they are right

Yet dopers from other countries will be able to compete and win medals. Almost certainly that will include Australian dopers.

your doing what Russia does now, doping is not just a problem in Russia .....the Russia state set up a room at the Olympic they was hosting and change the sample to clean...the Russia anti-doping agency took the drug samples and change it to clean

the Australia government, the Australian ASIO, Australian anti-doping agency are not helping Australians to cheat by doping

so it not even close

IOC can't bad Russia, the chicken shit mother fucking cunts

the IOC pass it on to Sports feb

-PB

Maybe not Australia, but you really think no other country is helping their athletes dope. Doping is everywhere in sport.

i don't believe, any other host of the Olympics, has built a hole in the wall, and a special room next door to so the FSB can change the sample bottles

Doping is no more everywhere then rape is everywhere

you are falling for the Russia playbook....it the same thing Russia say on corruption

every countries has corruption, Russia is not alone with having the evils of corruption....yes, every country has corruption, but the level and size of the corruption, and what that country society does when they find that corruption, is totally different

I am NOT falling for the Russian playbook, the current Russian scandals has not changed my views at all.

I am just sick of the narrative in the media that paints Australians as not being dopers despite the evidence to contrary and when an Australian test positive it has to be a mistake, they would never have done it deliberately. The lies caught dopers put forward are swallowed as facts without any critical thinking. For example Stuart O'Grady has confessed to doping once, yet that confession has to be lies, but that was never exposed.

We have seen a wide spread doping scandal in Australian sport exposed but that seems not to matter, Australians don't dope, they are just victims of those dirty foreigners who rob us of medals and titles and victories. When they test positive it was just an accident, never any intent to cheat.

Hearing comments on the radio this morning that the decision involving Russia means competitors cannot line up and know they are competing against clean opposition. This is just false, it does not change a thing, YOU CAN NEVER KNOW that the opposition are clean, whether they are Russian or not.

The facts are it is relatively easy to dope and pass doping tests, even when positives are not covered up, so passing doping tests prove nothing and are a very limited deterrent at best.

Edited by Drunken_Fish: 25/7/2016 08:49:41 AM

And Russia is not the only country which is in trouble for their practices around doping testing.

Kenya
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36275649

Jamacia
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/24900565

you say you not failing into the Russian play book, then you say narrative in the media that paints Australians as not doping.....

who fucking cares what the media says...

has the Australia gov set a independent anti-doping agency? (yes)
does this independent anti-doping agency go out and try to caught doping in Australia, (yes)
does the independent anti-doping agency have enough money , people to do the job (yes)

this is the mark, of a country , does it try to stop it

most of doping scandal in Australian sport is in non Olympic sports...most non Olympic sports in other counties don't do any drug testing, ..the fact those non Olympic sports get drug test and it laid out for to see is good thing

the chance of die by lightning is low, but you chance of die by lightning become way higher if your playing golf and there a lightning storm....the chance of the Russia being drop up is 50 times more likely then the Australian

stop painting it all the same

Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 09:55:12 AM

Why don't you get it into your thick head that DOPING TESTING DOES NOT WORK. It is reasonably easy to beat, cyclists have proven that for years. So the fact Australia tests athletes proves NOTHING, not one thing, unless they fluke find a positive test from someone who has made a mistake with their doping.
And ASADA does not have enough money to fight doping. I heard an interview with former ASADA head Richard Ings saying this exactly.
The difference in Russia is big in that they were actively protecting athletes so that they could dope to high levels but that does mean the athletes in other countries are any less cheats.
Apparently Jared Tallent is clean despite the fact he was able to beat these doped up athletes, he is either a freak or a doper to be able to compete with heavily doped up athletes.
OPEN YOUR EYES, their is nothing special about Australians, they cheat like any other country. Doping is rife in sport, when you watch top sport you are watching dopers.

so Australians cheat like other people...but go live in those other countries...

you are painting the world as the same...because there one doping cheat, all cheat.....someone in your city rape a women tonight, so you're a rapist

Who is arguing that doping isn't rife everywhere???? Who are you arguing against?

The point here is that Russia is being punished for actually running a doping program for their athletes. The federation is being punished.

That is qualitatively different than the generalised doping that occurs.

Cheating is cheating no matter how much you take or the amount of impact it has on performance.

ardtho seems to be arguing that
1. Russia is a completely unique case and
2. Australians don't dope to anywhere near the same level as other countries.

I think one is quite possibly incorrect, I am sure other countries help athletes with doping and the second is almost certainly false. There is no evidence that Australian road cyclists were or are any less likely to dope than those from other countries. Or British or American either.

well, Russia is unique case ....the IOC just said that was the case....the IOC said we can't presumed the Russian athletes innocent and the Russian athletes have to be accepted by CAS as being clean before being aloud at Rio Olympics

how many Australia medal winner have been caught doping ? how many have had to hand there medal back from the re test from 2012 and 2008 Olympics ....

again, your saying Australia athletes have cheat in past, as such Australia it is no different to over countries ...but simple looking the number of Australia Olympic done for doping, would tell you this is not true

Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 02:42:30 PM

I give up.

i give up to

Australia had more drug cheats than China in 2014...the stats are always skewed and unreliable, but for Aussies to get on a high horse is laughable. If you did per head lists then we look very shit compared to russia

Oh, but when Aussies do it, it's always something like a 'supplement' or a 'diet pill'.

Not to stick up for adroretard or anything but he is right when it comes to retesting of samples from other Olympics other athletes are getting busted left, right and centre. Australians have yet to be busted retrospectively.

yes, but that AFL , NRL

Rugby league - 20
Bodybuilding - 9
Life saving - 4
Athletics - 3
Australian Rules football - 2
Cycling - 2
Weightlifting - 2

A month old but Jama Aden a top middle distance running coach was arrested in Spain in June for doping.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/20/athletics-coach-jama-aden-arrested-spain-doping-investigation

He has coached a number of top athletes and has had two of the runners he has coached suspended for doping.

Despite this his client Genzebe Dibaba the 1500m world record holder will compete in Rio in that event as the favourite. Other athletes coached by Aden also seem like they will compete.

So having a coach caught doping is not suspicious enough to be stopped running at the Olympics, let the dopers run.

lol IOC are so gutless by pushing it back on the federations.

Nothing will get sorted in the next 2 weeks lol.

-PB