Because NT caps shouldn't go to ordinary players,which happens in football, way to much, in this country.

Mooy and Irvine are better with someone behind them. Devlin, Jeggo or Dougall are criminally underused by the national team for that deeper cover. They're good players and they play every weekend in decent competitions. 

Don't we have any good reliable DM anymore...maybe James Holland. Mooy and Irvine often turned the ball over which will cost us a game against japan. Really miss Jedinak and Milligan now. 

Mate a 1/4 of the squad hadn't even set foot in Australia before playing for the Soceroos. Hahahahahahah

Pretty sure Irvine is Scottish Dutch too

Like the away game? It's incredibly tough but this home game against Japan will be a crunch game. We're at home and both teams will have pressure, Japan probably less so with the Vietnam game in the bag.

Don't forget Maty has an accent.

If Arnold plays Mooy and Irvine against Japan, my call is that we will lose by 3 goals. 

We won't beat Japan. Need to be realistic. 

Who gives a shit.

Of the starting XI:
Maclaren - Maltese
Irvine - Maltese
Rogic - Serbian
Mooy - Dutch
Degenek - Serbian
Karacic - Croatian

So over half come from non-British backgrounds.

Watching the game last night I couldn't help noticing how overwhelmingly Anglo the line up was. Given the proud multicultural tradition of this sport in this country why is this so? Not having a pro diversity rant and not saying this is intentional - genuinely curious! Having had a son go through the NSW NPL system, I have seen first hand great young players from different back grounds - where are they? Have they gone off to play in obscure European Leagues, out of the site of Socceroo selectors? Past Socceroo line ups usually had a good proportion of players from non Anglo backgrounds. Am I mis-reading the current situation or is there a legitimate reason for this?

Mooy was ambling around as if he were in a trance. Needs to up the intensity.
I was surprised to see Leckie starting. Irving is fairly pointless these days- McGree should have started.
And when can we get some real defenders- Vietnam could have had a couple of goals.

Well a win is a win no matter Viets rating and standing for many a NT have struggles against minnows not that we're a giant by any means as well.
At least the boat turned around from the last few performances and I'm gonna give kudos to Arnold despite many of us moaning on certain selections, some more than others.
That start was one of the best we've ever seen by our Roos pity it pulled back for offside.

I wasn't happy having Rogic/Mooy together but it did make a difference the 1st half but Mooy just doesn't run enough for a midfielder period.
When he was beaten at times he just didn't ever bother putting up a chase, he's a sub player from here on for me.
Rogic's recent return to better form with the Hoops came through for us as well.
Despite him losing some possesion at times in the middle overdoing it his movement forward/vision and touch was good to see......
Karacic was messy despite his efforts - he just didn't perform to expecttions imo.
Degenak/Sains were sound but nothing to boast about, they got turned around inside out by their counters a number of times, worrying against better NT's.
Ryan did what we're used to seeing, great reflex block from close range, those saves do bring confidence to fellow players.
Classic assist perfect ball, kudos - I agree 9 rating seems high BUT what IF he didn't pull those 2 key plays off.
I had concerns re young King but really what a perfect debut and opponent to calm the nerves.
He'd hasn't got it yet against a more solid and seasoned skilful winger but you got to start somewhere. Still like to see Gersbach there tbh.
Irvine works like a headless chook at times for me and his skill is all over the shop, sometimes good enough and covers well next moment where is he then just all wrong at that key position.
I expected Boyle to rip this one apart - his play to set up Rogics disallowed goal was great, best thing he did all night.
Leckie, I've never been a fan of him like his twin Kruse, work alot and just doesn't deliver with all the ball he had, yes he slide through the ball for Rogic to score, is that why he got a rank of 8 lol, how many times was he on the deck through his game by the way ffs. I'm so over him please leave him playing out his time with MC.
Goodwin, glad to see him get a run, perfect run to meet Ryans feed and what a chip, anybody would love doing that a goal to remember and like to see him used more.
McGree added energy when we needed it and well taken finish from outside. Again use him more.
Duke another sub who made a diff to win back some ball in the middle at crucial times, he's a worker I like that.
Jeggo, like to see him more than Hrustic.
Tilio not enough time out there but made a few runs that you can see he can improve and be effective I'm sure.

Great seeing a big crowd, Viet support was impressive.

We can only look at one game at a time and not worry about the other results.

Nice to see the thread busy and not much bagging out about the coach, we scored 4 at home should have been more.

lol yep I was immensely frustrated at the time.  

Doesn't change the fact that a significant part of that second half we were genuinely under the pump which is quite frankly absurd. The impact the subs had coming on papered over the cracks somewhat. 

Like to see u take this back Syd.

Would cream my pants if we got that away, 

Asia is at a low ebb - the playoff spot will go to South America whoever it is from Asia. Combined teams including Qatar will be lucky to get 10 points between them at the World Cup. 

Columbia currently 5th in CONMEBOL.

Big few qualifiers coming up to avoid that.

btw not a critique of him. He did his job. But 9 for a goalkeeper is pulling out a huge number of criticial saves 

I saw it but how does that one thing give him a 9? It then puts him as equal best on the park. Any other team wouldve easily dealt with that 

Whatver its just a dumb rating system anyway

Yes you do have to look at who is giving the analysis. But you are about the only person on here, or on any other reports I've seen, who is saying that Mooy was good.
You can analyse what players do off the ball as much as you like, but sooner or later you also need to look at what they do on the ball, and last night, in the second half particularly, Mooy was poor on the ball. And by the way, I think Mooy is/has been a good player, but I still think he was not good last night. I hope he does get back into form again, because in form he is a critical player for us. But last night I was yelling at the TV for him to be replaced at least 10 minutes before he actually was.

PS You can watch a full match replay on 10Play.

As others have said above we need 9 points to guarantee a top 2 finish and 7 points will most likely be enough if we get all 3 points against Japan.

We are almost past the point of relying on results of games against the bottom 3 and the only possible bonus is if Saudi are already qualified on the final matchday it possibly means we are more likely to get 1 or 3 points on the last match day against a rotated Saudi team if we are still chasing direct qualification.

A 0-0 or 1-1 draw between Japan and Saudi would be helpful, but we must get the 3 points away to Oman.

I missed the game because of work but the score line is very pleasing.

Also great to see Goodwin and McGree score their first international goals, two players who I feel should really be playing a lot more for the NT.

And can’t get a game ahead of Ben Folami atm.

did u miss the assist to goodwin?

Its simple we need to win all our remaining matches... if we do we make it... if we don't we come third and given we Asia needs to play the fifth South American team we don't make it... well not this team anyway...

Is it all Arnolds fault.... he can only play with the squad he has... IMO he made two massive errors in teh Japan game in the last 10 to 15 minutes when they were obviously the better side he kept instructing us to go for a win  not a draw... if we had drawn we would be three points in front of Japan with a much better goal difference... the second error was the match plan against SA... 

Having said this with the finances FFA had at the time...Arnold given the salary being offered arguably a good choice... 

I don't feel good about making it this time... 

it was sad watching leckie last night, what could of been. If he could of converted to a wingback he would be in a top 5 league. Still got some pace and great defensively.

Japan vs Saudi will be crucial with what happens in the last 2 games.

Beating Oman is a must, cant afford to slip up in any other way.

We need to beat Japan and hold that position in the final game. Very tough ask as usual.