First Franchise to find a buyer - POLL


First Franchise to find a buyer - POLL

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First Franchise to find a buyer - POLL

11.54% - 3 votes Auckland
11.54% 3 votes
15.38% - 4 votes Canberra
15.38% 4 votes
3.85% - 1 vote Newcastle
3.85% 1 vote
69.23% - 18 votes Perth
69.23% 18 votes
0% - 0 votes Other
0% 0 votes
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$25m to burn?

take your pick
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Perth.

But I hope they don't get $25m for it.


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Munrubenmuz - 25 Jul 2023 5:37 PM
Perth.

But I hope they don't get $25m for it.

would be tough for the APL to ask for cut price on an established club and compete with their own other sale item being a non existent club you have to start from scratch
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This OP is classic, luv his work lol.....

bohemia it was no diff to when AL/Lowy started mind you, some paid more some paid less, there was no standard Franchise price just depended on the demographic and desperation adding a new Franchise.
To big business $25M isn't alot in the big picture trouble is what do they see ahead for the ROI.
Can't see much unless Townsend is the amazing who can sell ice to the eskimos, he probably will look great IF one or 2 sell but surely at bargain price.


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Ive gone Canberra just to be different :P   

DT has appeared on a random podcast, now claiming multiple bids for Auckland license..... hahahahaha the guy reminds me of old Three Stooges movies... running from one fire to another trying to put them out with nothing but his bullshit..... 

https://twitter.com/913sportfm/status/1683296640525041664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1683296640525041664%7Ctwgr%5E86501b879c321c1242da38424027eb096aedef90%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F1592l4y%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

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LFC. - 26 Jul 2023 5:34 AM
This OP is classic, luv his work lol.....

bohemia it was no diff to when AL/Lowy started mind you, some paid more some paid less, there was no standard Franchise price just depended on the demographic and desperation adding a new Franchise.
To big business $25M isn't alot in the big picture trouble is what do they see ahead for the ROI.
Can't see much unless Townsend is the amazing who can sell ice to the eskimos, he probably will look great IF one or 2 sell but surely at bargain price.

And some didnt pay anything at all :) They were just a better option than an already existing "EFFNIK SOKKAH" club..... 
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Sorry, wrong thread
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I think It will be a Tana/Football bid for glory is on the cards 
But for perth to success in the new APL Era it needs more games in WA we have been short of games and high on price just does have same ROI as it once did
Putting a Joondalup could be a good thing as it would benefits the ecosystem as whole (would have suggested Cockburn but my hatered of The Gate fuels my hatered of the region)
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I'm picking Sydney FC to be first after David Lewis aticle.
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@numklpkgulftumch can you maybe set up a more topical POLL.... "How many Franchises will be up for sale by the time round one kicks off this year?"
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LFC. - 26 Jul 2023 5:34 AM
This OP is classic, luv his work lol.....

bohemia it was no diff to when AL/Lowy started mind you, some paid more some paid less, there was no standard Franchise price just depended on the demographic and desperation adding a new Franchise.
To big business $25M isn't alot in the big picture trouble is what do they see ahead for the ROI.
Can't see much unless Townsend is the amazing who can sell ice to the eskimos, he probably will look great IF one or 2 sell but surely at bargain price.

With the inception of the aleague owners were told not to expect an ROI within first 5 years. 
But things will get better after that. 

16 years on and things are probably worse. 
And the enthusiasm for purchasing a licence is even worse than 2004-05..


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Why don the franchises try the APIA way?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aleague/comments/15n278b/apia_leichhardt_fc_to_float_shares_for_public/

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Not metrics ! MLS spelt APL :) 

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Would say Perth has the best opportunity but that requires vision the APL or the kinds of investors they appeal to

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Have they sold one yet?



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Maybe Danny should try selling women's franchises as part of the deal?
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LFC. - 26 Jul 2023 5:34 AM
This OP is classic, luv his work lol.....

bohemia it was no diff to when AL/Lowy started mind you, some paid more some paid less, there was no standard Franchise price just depended on the demographic and desperation adding a new Franchise.
To big business $25M isn't alot in the big picture trouble is what do they see ahead for the ROI.
Can't see much unless Townsend is the amazing who can sell ice to the eskimos, he probably will look great IF one or 2 sell but surely at bargain price.

Of course, you wouldn't pay the same to have a team within the Sydney market, as you would say a team on the Central Coast.

You would think Perth would be the first to find a buyer but would not surprise me if it was Auckland either.
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Butler99 - 28 Jul 2023 6:17 AM
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With the inception of the aleague owners were told not to expect an ROI within first 5 years. 
But things will get better after that. 

16 years on and things are probably worse. 
And the enthusiasm for purchasing a licence is even worse than 2004-05..


Can you name a single football club in the world that regularly makes profits? Maybe Man Utd, but only due to relentless asset stripping from the Glazers, and look where's it got them: a once proud club hasn't won a title in more than a decade. Practically every other owner would rather chase glory than see their toy turn a profit. The most they hope for is increased on-sale value from someone willing to pay even more money to play with the toy.
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df1982 - 22 Aug 2023 3:25 AM
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Can you name a single football club in the world that regularly makes profits? Maybe Man Utd, but only due to relentless asset stripping from the Glazers, and look where's it got them: a once proud club hasn't won a title in more than a decade. Practically every other owner would rather chase glory than see their toy turn a profit. The most they hope for is increased on-sale value from someone willing to pay even more money to play with the toy.

Celtic.

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Lurker - 22 Aug 2023 11:17 AM
df1982 - 22 Aug 2023 3:25 AM

Celtic.

OK, so all you need to be a profitable football club is to have 10x the turnover of every other club in your league bar one. Not really a realistic model for A-League owners.
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df1982 - 23 Aug 2023 5:21 AM
Lurker - 22 Aug 2023 11:17 AM

OK, so all you need to be a profitable football club is to have 10x the turnover of every other club in your league bar one. Not really a realistic model for A-League owners.

There are others.You asked for one and didn't like the answer so how about Tottenham Hotspur or Manchester City?

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df1982 - 23 Aug 2023 5:21 AM
Lurker - 22 Aug 2023 11:17 AM

OK, so all you need to be a profitable football club is to have 10x the turnover of every other club in your league bar one. Not really a realistic model for A-League owners.

Hmmmm, 
Profit,
such a outdated philosophical concept

to put a price on so much human connection is disrespectful
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Monoethnic Social Club - 11 Aug 2023 3:22 PM

Clearly Tony Raciti doesn't want to fund this all himself cause he knows the costs are quite significant. 
I applaud the strategy moving forward "shares in club model" but let's face it, APIA isn't a well supported club. 
Good luck to them nevertheless
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Monoethnic Social Club - 11 Aug 2023 3:22 PM

Wise move APIA 
sorry, when I see apia I think Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency
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GDeathe - 23 Aug 2023 10:47 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 11 Aug 2023 3:22 PM

Wise move APIA 
sorry, when I see apia I think Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency

That's OK they sometimes play like pensioners

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Southend United have been docked 10 points by the National League following a High Court decision to grant a final 42-day deadline to the club to avoid being wound up.

Owner Ron Martin said the sale of the club to an unnamed Australian buyer should be finalised next month..
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On the sale of the club, a statement said: "Negotiations are at an advanced stage with a consortium led by an Australian national, and comprising of a group of local businessmen. Completion is targeted before 1 October.".
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but Martin is now "confident" the interest from Australia will prove concrete and secure the Shrimpers' future.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66591344

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numklpkgulftumch - 24 Aug 2023 9:40 AM
Southend United have been docked 10 points by the National League following a High Court decision to grant a final 42-day deadline to the club to avoid being wound up.

Owner Ron Martin said the sale of the club to an unnamed Australian buyer should be finalised next month..
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On the sale of the club, a statement said: "Negotiations are at an advanced stage with a consortium led by an Australian national, and comprising of a group of local businessmen. Completion is targeted before 1 October.".
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but Martin is now "confident" the interest from Australia will prove concrete and secure the Shrimpers' future.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66591344

But why would some Australian consortium buy a National league club for peanuts with the aim of increasing its value by moving up the pyramid and selling players when they can "own" an Aleague franchise and ..... well..... um...... not get relegated I suppose?
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