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Quote:Former Sydney FC defender Simon Colosimo will be the A-League bolter named in Pim Verbeek's Socceroos squad on Tuesday.
The Sun-Herald can reveal that Melbourne Heart recruit Colosimo, Middlesbrough striker Scott McDonald and Aston Villa defender Shane Lowry will all make the 27-man provisional team for Australia's World Cup campaign.
Colosimo, who has scored three goals in 26 appearances for the Socceroos, could get a chance to add to the tally in South Africa. The 31-year-old helped lift Sydney to last season's A-League title and his efforts will be rewarded when Verbeek ends speculation about the Australian outfit this week. Advertisement: Story continues below
Verbeek has made no secret of his thoughts on the standard of the A-League. He made headlines when he stated: ''Training twice a day in Europe is better than playing in the A-League.''
But Colosimo will at least be one locally based player who will be part of the squad, which will be reduced to 23 before June 1.
Former Socceroos coach Les Scheinflug backed Colosimo to partner Lucas Neill at centre-half. ''He has definitely got the ability to be a modern-style centre-back or defensive midfield player, whatever he wants to be,'' Scheinflug said.
''[Craig] Moore is an experienced player but he lacks speed. If Colosimo plays, they won't kick him out.
''Colosimo is the boy who should have played in Italy 10 to 15 years ago. He would have played in any of the top teams but he didn't go [for family reasons].''
The Socceroos' defensive stocks are skinny and have been complicated by injuries to key players. Rale Rasic, the first coach to guide Australia to the World Cup, conceded Moore had slowed down but said he was still the man for the job.
''I see Australia as a bit too slow in the back four,'' Rasic said. ''But the obvious choice is Craig Moore because I don't think that someone like Verbeek will go for someone young to learn what it's all about in the tournament. You don't expect experiments in the World Cup.''
Although a new injury cloud hangs over Harry Kewell, the Galatasaray star is certain to be selected with the hope he will recover from a groin injury in time to play a role in South Africa.
Meanwhile, The Sun-Herald has learned that McDonald, who has not scored for the national team in his previous 15 appearances, will be one of the attacking weapons chosen to support or replace Kewell.
Other options include attacking winger Dario Vidosic, Richard Garcia, Nikita Rukavytsya and Bruce Djite. Perth-born Shane Lowry, who has previously represented the Republic of Ireland at under-17 level, is another intriguing selection.
Jade North, who has been playing with Norwegian club Tippeligaen, will also make the cut while Michael Beauchamp is firming for a position in the initial squad.
The Socceroos will head into camp in Melbourne ahead of their farewell match against the New Zealand All Whites on May 24. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/football/colosimo-set-for-surprise-cup-callup-20100508-ukva.html
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Proud2BeCanberran
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You have to be kidding?
North, Beauchamp and Colosimo are all ahead of Milligan and Spiranovic...#-o
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Tommycash
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Proud2BeCanberran wrote:You have to be kidding?
North, Beauchamp and Colosimo are all ahead of Milligan and Spiranovic...#-o I know right, Give me Spira over anyone anyday. But to be honest I'd rather anyone bar Milligan. I don't think he has it on the world stage. The others have proved they are. Oh not Beechy. Hes shit house. But Don't despair. It is only three they confirmed in Lowry, Macca and Collosimo. So Wait our defence is pretty much set with those picks. However the rest are just the writers opinions. Edited by tommycash: 9/5/2010 12:05:55 PM
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Colosimo - training with a dutch club (forget who), Lowry - regularly starts for Leeds, Moore - not even playing state league, Spira - rarely gets a game for Reds, Milligan - regularly playing full games in J.2, Ogenovski - regularly playing full games in K-League and ACL. I think i know who I would prefer.
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Edited by Jets_Fan: 9/5/2010 01:49:36 PM
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kickittome
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Jets_Fan wrote: Lowry - rarely plays for Leeds What are you talking about? He has started 11 games since February, including yesterdays win over Bristol.
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^ Sorry my bad, Wikipedia has failed me once again.
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kickittome wrote:Jets_Fan wrote: Lowry - rarely plays for Leeds What are you talking about? He has started 11 games since February, including yesterdays win over Bristol. And was to blame for Bristol's goal!!!
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kickittome
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patjennings wrote:kickittome wrote:Jets_Fan wrote: Lowry - rarely plays for Leeds What are you talking about? He has started 11 games since February, including yesterdays win over Bristol. And was to blame for Bristol's goal!!! No he wasn't!!!
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Shar
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Well, yes Lowry was heavily involved in the mixup which lead directly to the BR goal, and was subbed for Howson, who managed to equalise less than 10 mins later. I'm not sold on Lowry as left back, but it appears we are getting desperate there.
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after chippers and carney, lowry is the best of an average bunch and people just have to accept that
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Shar
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Controversially perhaps, I'd back Jamieson over Lowry @ LB. He has more oomph, can take on players better, great with free kicks, and creates more forward momentum, whereas I only tend to see Lowry go long.
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Shar wrote: I'm not sold on Lowry as left back, but it appears we are getting desperate there. He is rubbish as a left back. His distribution is terrible and he offers nothing in attack. However, he is a very competent central defender and i am sure he will be playing in the premier league in a few years from now.
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COYS
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Jameison makes mistakes every week in the a-league and the ACL mate. maybe if we were talking about the 08-09 jamieson then id probably agree with you, but hes gone backwards this season, his technique is just awful these days and half of his crosses end up in the stands...he isnt much better than heffernan who is another player who is very average.
i would say lowry is also average, but not as average as the other 2...(i think ive said the word average about 15 times now, but you know what i mean i guess) plus has versatility on his side where he can, if getting desperate, play in central defence
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Shar
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Yep, consensus would be then that we have some real problems with LB, and Pim in all likelihood will provisionally add Lowry and we'll have to watch how things pan out with Chippers & Carney.
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Just throwing this out there but what about Bosnar at LB. If he went he could cover for CB and LB which is versatility that we need more then anything.
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Why are we thinking that we are so light in the Left Back area? Am I missing something?
For when he did play, Chipperfield was no doubt one of our best on the field. Yeah, he may be 34 but he is still quality. His performances for Basel have been brilliant, judging by all reports. And having David Carney as back-up is saying something. Just remember some of his goals (eg. vs Ireland and Nigeria).
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Proud2BeCanberran wrote:Why are we thinking that we are so light in the Left Back area? Am I missing something?
For when he did play, Chipperfield was no doubt one of our best on the field. Yeah, he may be 34 but he is still quality. His performances for Basel have been brilliant, judging by all reports. And having David Carney as back-up is saying something. Just remember some of his goals (eg. vs Ireland and Nigeria). Chippers has had a grest secomd half of the season, but Carney has hardly played. I know Pim likes him - but he has no game time - though he will be on the plane. The good thing is that Wilkshire can cover for LB as well.
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How about Chris Coyne? :-k :roll:
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The idea that Colosimo and Lowry are going to be selected ahead of established talent is a massive slap in the face and a joke.
Then I realised that the article who was written by Adrian Proszenko, the same guy who branded Melbourne Storm's players "cheating rats" and who wrote of his support for Rebecca Wilson.
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afromanGT wrote:The idea that Colosimo and Lowry are going to be selected ahead of established talent is a massive slap in the face and a joke.
Then I realised that the article who was written by Adrian Proszenko, the same guy who branded Melbourne Storm's players "cheating rats" and who wrote of his support for Rebecca Wilson. Enlighten me on how Melbourne Storm are not cheating rats? And we shall see if these three figure in a few days.
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Tommycash
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Proud2BeCanberran wrote:Why are we thinking that we are so light in the Left Back area? Am I missing something?
For when he did play, Chipperfield was no doubt one of our best on the field. Yeah, he may be 34 but he is still quality. His performances for Basel have been brilliant, judging by all reports. And having David Carney as back-up is saying something. Just remember some of his goals (eg. vs Ireland and Nigeria). Whilst I agree with you that our LB position is pretty decent I have this to say. Chippers, Whilst playing regularly has been used as a striker. I'm sure he can adapt though. And Carney has had no time on the pitch. But again he has in the past proved that this is no problem on the international stage for him. As for Lowry he did well for Plymouth when he was there in the Championship. I think he's going to be a kid with a big future for the roos. Edited by tommycash: 9/5/2010 06:06:41 PM
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Carney is probably the worst back I've ever seen. And this from a Liverpool fan who had to watch Djimi Tarore playing on a weekly basis.
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People aren't saying Chipperfield is crap, we are saying that his backups are crap which is true
Carney is not and never will be a leftback. hes a very useful left midfielder...but not a leftback
I'm content with Carney being back up but after him, the level drops tremendously.
Hopefully Jason Davidson will solve that problem in the future
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You've got Wilkshire who can LB too. I'd take him at LB ahead of Chipps, then fuck off Carney because he's useless as a Left back. Can't tackle for shit and runs straight at his opponent when he has the ball.
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Tommycash wrote:afromanGT wrote:The idea that Colosimo and Lowry are going to be selected ahead of established talent is a massive slap in the face and a joke.
Then I realised that the article who was written by Adrian Proszenko, the same guy who branded Melbourne Storm's players "cheating rats" and who wrote of his support for Rebecca Wilson. Enlighten me on how Melbourne Storm are not cheating rats? And we shall see if these three figure in a few days. Melbourne Storm's PLAYERS are not cheats. Melbourne Storm is.
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Jets_Fan wrote:Tommycash wrote:afromanGT wrote:The idea that Colosimo and Lowry are going to be selected ahead of established talent is a massive slap in the face and a joke.
Then I realised that the article who was written by Adrian Proszenko, the same guy who branded Melbourne Storm's players "cheating rats" and who wrote of his support for Rebecca Wilson. Enlighten me on how Melbourne Storm are not cheating rats? And we shall see if these three figure in a few days. Melbourne Storm's PLAYERS are not cheats. Melbourne Storm is. UMMMMMM SO THERE PLAYERS DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE RECEIVING PAYMENTS OFF THE BOOKS? Come on your smarter then that kiddo. I know they wouldn't have known if they were going over the cap or not but you don't receive secret third party payments and not think it's a bit dodgy.
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afromanGT wrote:You've got Wilkshire who can LB too. I'd take him at LB ahead of Chipps, then fuck off Carney because he's useless as a Left back. Can't tackle for shit and runs straight at his opponent when he has the ball. Hmmmmm I have to disagree. Wilkshire is far more important on the right for us. He is the only one in the side who can deliver a decent cross time and time again.
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Tommycash wrote:Jets_Fan wrote:Tommycash wrote:afromanGT wrote:The idea that Colosimo and Lowry are going to be selected ahead of established talent is a massive slap in the face and a joke.
Then I realised that the article who was written by Adrian Proszenko, the same guy who branded Melbourne Storm's players "cheating rats" and who wrote of his support for Rebecca Wilson. Enlighten me on how Melbourne Storm are not cheating rats? And we shall see if these three figure in a few days. Melbourne Storm's PLAYERS are not cheats. Melbourne Storm is. UMMMMMM SO THERE PLAYERS DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE RECEIVING PAYMENTS OFF THE BOOKS? Come on your smarter then that kiddo. I know they wouldn't have known if they were going over the cap or not but you don't receive secret third party payments and not think it's a bit dodgy. Well if you look at it that way then yes, you could say they are cheats. But it's the club's fault for offering them the extra money. If you were in their shoes would you say no to some extra money?
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Jets_Fan wrote:Tommycash wrote:Jets_Fan wrote:Tommycash wrote:afromanGT wrote:The idea that Colosimo and Lowry are going to be selected ahead of established talent is a massive slap in the face and a joke.
Then I realised that the article who was written by Adrian Proszenko, the same guy who branded Melbourne Storm's players "cheating rats" and who wrote of his support for Rebecca Wilson. Enlighten me on how Melbourne Storm are not cheating rats? And we shall see if these three figure in a few days. Melbourne Storm's PLAYERS are not cheats. Melbourne Storm is. UMMMMMM SO THERE PLAYERS DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE RECEIVING PAYMENTS OFF THE BOOKS? Come on your smarter then that kiddo. I know they wouldn't have known if they were going over the cap or not but you don't receive secret third party payments and not think it's a bit dodgy. Well if you look at it that way then yes, you could say they are cheats. But it's the club's fault for offering them the extra money. If you were in their shoes would you say no to some extra money? Well I would like to think Id not be as stupid as they were in the way they went about it. But let's not be silly "oh he offered me some cocaine so I thought hell why not?" These are grown men (rugby players I know) they have the brains to work shit out for themselves.
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Quote:Jade North, who has been playing with Norwegian club Tippeligaen, will also make the cut while Michael Beauchamp is firming for a position in the initial squad. Are we really supposed to believe an article which shows a clear lack of football knowledge like this? It's like saying Colosimo, who has been playing with Australian club A-League..... Cmon lads sort it out. Tromso IL not Tippeligaen.
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