Decentric
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There are tables just up on Stattoz for the Australia /Germany match.
There are 4 tables, 2 for individual and team stats before Cahill was sent off, then individual and team stats for 10 v 11.
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MichaelB
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Thank you. I love reading this stuff.
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afromanGT
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The passing accuracy was good, but there was no drive to attack. Most probably due to the lack of a proficient striker on the pitch all game.
I'd like to see tackle completion rate.
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Decentric
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afromanGT wrote:
I'd like to see tackle completion rate.
Not all of the one on one duels are necessarily tackles. Australia has excelled in this facet of the game, the physical body on body contact duels, over the last year. The USA came closest to matching Australia.
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afromanGT
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Yeah, but I'm interested to see just how many tackles Moore completed out of the ones he attempted. Especailly in comparison to the other defenders. And how much ground Moore covered in comparison to the other defenders.
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Decentric
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afromanGT wrote:Yeah, but I'm interested to see just how many tackles Moore completed out of the ones he attempted. Especailly in comparison to the other defenders. . Over the last two years Moore would be the best tackler in the team, apart from Grella. At the moment he is playing better than Grella. Many have called for Moore's head. Over the Asian campaign in the last few years, Moore has made few individual mistakes on on one and is rarely beaten in a tackle. I thhink from hte following info he has lost only 1 in the last few years!!! Against Germany he competed for 4 tackles. He won all of them. Against the USA he competed for 5 tackles. He won all of them. USA is the most physical team we've played against for years. Against Denmark he competed for 0 tackles. Against the Kiwis he competed for 0 tackles. Against Kuwait he competed for 2 tackles. He won 1. Against Oman he competed for 3 tackles. He won 3. Against Holland he competed for 2 tackles in one half before being subbed. He won both of them. Against Kuwait in Canberra last year he competed for 2 tackles. He won both. Against Japan in Japan, he competed for 0 tackles. In all games he was always close to the performer for winning the most one on one duels, with the biggest advantage over his opponents. He has also had a very high pass completion rate, although attempting safer passing options than Neill. Grella has excelled in the physical stuff too, although he has been more prone to give away free kicks..
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afromanGT
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The biggest problem is how often Moore was caught for pace. His tackling ratio is good and he saved two certain goals against Germany, but al the same, he cost two goals where he was caught for pace and we can't play an offside trap when he's caught lagging behind time and again.
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Joffa
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Sorry Decentric usually I love your stats and analysis but in this instance I can't agree...sure Moore may win more tackles than he loses but against Germany he wasn't even getting to the contests to make a tackle...in fact he was a nonentity as far as that game went and actually caused players around him to play poorly.
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Decentric
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Joffa wrote:Sorry Decentric usually I love your stats and analysis but in this instance I can't agree...sure Moore may win more tackles than he loses but against Germany he wasn't even getting to the contests to make a tackle...in fact he was a nonentity as far as that game went and actually caused players around him to play poorly. Feel free to disagree. Neil was fully, or partly culpable for three of the goals. Moore was culpable, with the rest of the defence, for one goal. I've spent too much time analysing the goals in slow motion. Neill is also slower over the turf and slower to turn than Moore. Generally, Neill is a better long range passer and ball carrier though. The stats don't tell the whole picture. I think Moore has made more tackles than in the last two games than he has in the last few years for the Socceroos. The whole defence and midfield were culpable for the debacle against Germany in terms of positioning, but it made it harder when they lost Cahill. In the last World Cup, the top couple of tacklers averaged 5 a game.
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Gyfox
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I find this constant nonsense about how slow Moore is tedious. He was for years our fastest player over 20 to 30 m and still is quicker than most defenders we can put on the park. With age he takes a little longer to accelerate.
Neill had the worst game I have seen in a very long time from one of central defenders and it had to do with his positional play and poor choices. In his defense he and Moore were constantly left exposed by Wilkshire and Chipperfield being left upfield by Germany's crisp passing to the wide player.
I would be interested in what your stats show on Emerton Deccentric. I thought he was one of our bright lights going forward but I think his fitness meant that he didn't tackle back like he normally does.
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afromanGT
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Decentric wrote:Joffa wrote:Sorry Decentric usually I love your stats and analysis but in this instance I can't agree...sure Moore may win more tackles than he loses but against Germany he wasn't even getting to the contests to make a tackle...in fact he was a nonentity as far as that game went and actually caused players around him to play poorly. Feel free to disagree. Neil was fully, or partly culpable for three of the goals. Moore was culpable, with the rest of the defence, for one goal. I've spent too much time analysing the goals in slow motion. Neill is also slower over the turf and slower to turn than Moore. Generally, Neill is a better long range passer and ball carrier though. The stats don't tell the whole picture. I think Moore has made more tackles than in the last two games than he has in the last few years for the Socceroos. The whole defence and midfield were culpable for the debacle against Germany in terms of positioning, but it made it harder when they lost Cahill. In the last World Cup, the top couple of tacklers averaged 5 a game. I don't see how Neill was responsible for Podolski's goal, nobody could do anything about that. That was just excellent play. And Klose's goal was, dare I say it, bad keeping. Schwarzer committed to focussing on the man instead of being first to the ball. Moore's lazy movement meant that Neill was out of position for the other two goals and I'd blame Moore more than Neill for either of them, particularly Muller's. For what it's worth, I agree completely with Joffa.
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Decentric
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afromanGT wrote: I don't see how Neill was responsible for Podolski's goal, nobody could do anything about that. That was just excellent play.
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He wasn't. If you read what I said on Stattoz it was a collective mistake by Valeri and Grella. Meuller got between them and Valeri stopped tracking him. Grella took over for a few metres, but both Australian screeners must have thought the other player was doing the tracking. Neill was partly responsible for all the other 3 goals. I have no preconceived agenda to vilify any players. I usually defend players when supporters attack them. There are usually shades of grey. Not everything is absolute or unequivocal.
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Decentric
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Gyfox wrote:
I would be interested in what your stats show on Emerton Deccentric. I thought he was one of our bright lights going forward but I think his fitness meant that he didn't tackle back like he normally does.
Emerton had a very good game going forwards. Have alook at the stats on the Stattoz tables. He made 9 difficult passes. This is exceptional for 73 minutes on the pitch. Difficult passes are defined by eye of the needle passes, defence splitting passes and passes made under in great defensive pressure. Emerton also had a very high pass complation rate for an advanced position. Culina did too, but pertinently Culina delivered no difficult passes, instead trying the safer options. I interviewed Rale Rasic, 1974 Socceroos World Cup coach in Germany, a few days ago about the German match. A condensed article appeared on Stattoz. He considered Schweinsteiger played a little to his left, rather than centrally, to protect the inexperienced Badstuber at left back. I would also suggest that Germany played conservatively on the left, attacking more on the right flank, through Lahm. This conceded space for Wilkshire and emrton to expoit this space on the right. They had less pressure than in other parts of the pitch. Having said that, Emerton's game was exceptional. At the same time, Gyfox, as you suggest, he was probably unable to provide the defensive coever he normally does, given his lack of match fitness.
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Decentric wrote:Gyfox wrote:
I would be interested in what your stats show on Emerton Deccentric. I thought he was one of our bright lights going forward but I think his fitness meant that he didn't tackle back like he normally does.
Emerton had a very good game going forwards. Have alook at the stats on the Stattoz tables. He made 9 difficult passes. This is exceptional for 73 minutes on the pitch. Difficult passes are defined by eye of the needle passes, defence splitting passes and passes made under in great defensive pressure. Emerton also had a very high pass complation rate for an advanced position. Culina did too, but pertinently Culina delivered no difficult passes, instead trying the safer options. Emerton is IMO only second to Kewell in terms of skill with the ball at his feet. Quote: I interviewed Rale Rasic, 1974 Socceroos World Cup coach in Germany, a few days ago about the German match. A condensed article appeared on Stattoz. He considered Schweinsteiger played a little to his left, rather than centrally, to protect the inexperienced Badstuber at left back.
I would also suggest that Germany played conservatively on the left, attacking more on the right flank, through Lahm. This conceded space for Wilkshire and emrton to expoit this space on the right. They had less pressure than in other parts of the pitch. Having said that, Emerton's game was exceptional. At the same time, Gyfox, as you suggest, he was probably unable to provide the defensive coever he normally does, given his lack of match fitness.
this is why Culina was played on our left- technically and speed-wise it was reasonable to think that Culina would be able to counter Lahm's runs.
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Decentric
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stefcep wrote:Decentric wrote:Gyfox wrote:
I would be interested in what your stats show on Emerton Deccentric. I thought he was one of our bright lights going forward but I think his fitness meant that he didn't tackle back like he normally does.
Emerton had a very good game going forwards. Have alook at the stats on the Stattoz tables. He made 9 difficult passes. This is exceptional for 73 minutes on the pitch. Difficult passes are defined by eye of the needle passes, defence splitting passes and passes made under in great defensive pressure. Emerton also had a very high pass complation rate for an advanced position. Culina did too, but pertinently Culina delivered no difficult passes, instead trying the safer options. Emerton is IMO only second to Kewell in terms of skill with the ball at his feet. He actually beat two German players in one dribbling run. Given it was his first game for some time, he played remarkably well. The move he used to beat the two players was particularly skilful.
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Holman looked really good when he came on and the stats suggest likewise. Dare I say he's finally repaying the faith shown to him.
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