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I want Uruguay. I think Brazil.
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Joffa
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let's hope it will be Germany and they start by putting Serbia to the sword tonight.
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mus-28
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I'm still tipping Spain or Holland. The loss to Switzerland might be the kick in the arse Spain need to start destroying opponents. They have the best squad on paper and their past results have been impressive, the Swiss result was just a blip. Holland have the X-Factor in Robben, Sneijder and Van Persie, not many teams will be able to deal with their skill in the attacking third and they look solid at the back.
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afromanGT
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Bryan wrote:learn to lighten up dude.. but hey if you want a proper reply to that drivel then sure. Basically everything that came after that was pure shit. Messi does fine without the barca players by his side (did you even watch ARG VS KOR Game?). Who cares if maradona does that. it aint going to worry me mate if argentina wins, I'll be a few thousands + KMs away from ever seeing it happen. I'm sure you won't even bat an eyelid if it ever occurs, so just to re-iterate, who gives a toss mate. Maradona is a bloody legend Messi gets the ball, gets closed down by three defenders and turns it over. He isn't playing well. He didn't get a shot on target agaisnt Korea. Quote:I think afromanGt totally forgot about that and the fact they are european champions with practically the same team and I'm the douche? Teams have bad days and its not like Spain played like shit either. Switzerland isn't a team that should be overlooked. They have a very talented group of players who held their defence well. When they won the European Championships they had Marcos Senna in the side, who makes a massive difference in stabalising their midfield. Spain played with arrogance and lacked the desire to win. Their performance was just lazy and if they play like that again, they won't be winning anything. Quote:Just to add, no attacking drive!? What game were you watching? I pretty sure spain had a little over 20+ shots. All they can do is pass the ball? Their qualifiers had something like an avg of 3 goals per game. Spain is ranked 2nd in the world... yeh they aren't world class at all, I'm so sorry for even suggesting that. They were flat footed, didn't move. Statistics lie, most of their shots came from outside the area. They lacked the ability to break through the Swiss defence because their forwards were just standing there. They didn't start to look up until Torres came on. And by then it was too little too late. Previous performances count for little. Argentina's qualifying was mediocre but they're playing well. Conversely, Australia's qualifying was apparently 'good', but we're playing terribly.
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jonzey
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Germany to win...
1990 + 1974 - 1954 = 2010
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Bryan
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imnofreak wrote:People ruling Spain out because of one bad (unlucky imo) performance? Yeah, lets just forget the last dozen games where they completely dominated.
Don't be silly. afromanGT wrote:Quote:I hope you're right about spain... I'd love to see more from this world class team. Yeah, world class team that couldn't even break through Switzerland's defence. Nice work from the 'world class' side. All they can do is pass the ball. There was no movement off the ball, no attacking drive. Just sheer arogance and lazyness. And they paid the price for it. That's not the sign of a world class team. I think afromanGt totally forgot about that and the fact they are european champions with practically the same team and I'm the douche? Teams have bad days and its not like Spain played like shit either. Switzerland isn't a team that should be overlooked. They have a very talented group of players who held their defence well. Just to add, no attacking drive!? What game were you watching? I pretty sure spain had a little over 20+ shots. All they can do is pass the ball? Their qualifiers had something like an avg of 3 goals per game. Spain is ranked 2nd in the world... yeh they aren't world class at all, I'm so sorry for even suggesting that. Edited by Bryan: 18/6/2010 12:40:49 AM
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People ruling Spain out because of one bad (unlucky imo) performance? Yeah, lets just forget the last dozen games where they completely dominated.
Don't be silly.
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Bryan
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afromanGT wrote:In case you hadn't noticed, Maradona is a little short in stature. And he said he would run naked through the streets of Buenos Aries if Argentina lifted the world cup.
Basically, your posts reads "uh, I lack the intelligence to formulate an actual argument so I'm going to act like a douche."
learn to lighten up dude.. but hey if you want a proper reply to that drivel then sure. Basically everything that came after that was pure shit. Messi does fine without the barca players by his side (did you even watch ARG VS KOR Game?). Who cares if maradona does that. it aint going to worry me mate if argentina wins, I'll be a few thousands + KMs away from ever seeing it happen. I'm sure you won't even bat an eyelid if it ever occurs, so just to re-iterate, who gives a toss mate. Maradona is a bloody legend
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I'll go with Germany. Traditonally they perform at big tournaments and they look to have a very quick and strong squad this campaign.
Mind you, it is only the first round (and a bit) so its very hard to judge atm.
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afromanGT
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Bryan wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:If it was a game of keep ball Spain would win hands down. Good thing possession doesn't count for much on the scoreboard. Bryan wrote:Argentina for sure! I want Maradona to stick it to the doubters! And with players like messi and mascherano, how can you lose ;) I really don't want him to win. The last thing the world needs is a chubby little man running naked through the streets of Buenos Aries. Not to mention they've been unconvincing when teams have organised their defences. Messi is playing very poorly without the service of Iniesta and Xavi. little man running naked (wtf)- from then on blah blah blah, i need a bigger pooper scooper ;) haha Hank, yeah. luckily I didnt say that about spain yesterday ;) In case you hadn't noticed, Maradona is a little short in stature. And he said he would run naked through the streets of Buenos Aries if Argentina lifted the world cup. Basically, your posts reads "uh, I lack the intelligence to formulate an actual argument so I'm going to act like a douche." Quote:Laugh it up - England and Spain will be there at the pointy end. $50 says they won't. Be careful, the last time I made a bet like this on here I was right and the ponce wouldn't pay up. Quote:I hope you're right about spain... I'd love to see more from this world class team. Yeah, world class team that couldn't even break through Switzerland's defence. Nice work from the 'world class' side. All they can do is pass the ball. There was no movement off the ball, no attacking drive. Just sheer arogance and lazyness. And they paid the price for it. That's not the sign of a world class team.
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Bryan
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scouse_roar wrote:Laugh it up - England and Spain will be there at the pointy end. I hope you're right about spain, I still think they'll make it out and hopefully alongside Chile ;) Road warrior, definitely! It's still a little to early to discount anyone just yet but I already have my favourites :P Edited by Bryan: 18/6/2010 12:07:01 AM
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Laugh it up - England and Spain will be there at the pointy end.
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road warrior
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I wouldn't rule out a team because they have had a slow start. For instance Brazil, Spain and Portugal each won all 3 group games in 2006. France started with draws against Switzerland and Korea, before going all the way to the final, knocking out those 3 teams on the way.
At this stage I'll tip Argentina, ahead of Spain and Brazil.
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spathi
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Argentina
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Hank
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:If it was a game of keep ball Spain would win hands down. Good thing possession doesn't count for much on the scoreboard. Precisely why I said 'if'...
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Bryan
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:If it was a game of keep ball Spain would win hands down. Good thing possession doesn't count for much on the scoreboard. Bryan wrote:Argentina for sure! I want Maradona to stick it to the doubters! And with players like messi and mascherano, how can you lose ;) I really don't want him to win. The last thing the world needs is a chubby little man running naked through the streets of Buenos Aries. Not to mention they've been unconvincing when teams have organised their defences. Messi is playing very poorly without the service of Iniesta and Xavi. little man running naked (wtf)- from then on blah blah blah, i need a bigger pooper scooper ;) haha Hank, yeah. luckily I didnt say that about spain yesterday ;)
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afromanGT
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Quote:If it was a game of keep ball Spain would win hands down. Good thing possession doesn't count for much on the scoreboard. Bryan wrote:Argentina for sure! I want Maradona to stick it to the doubters! And with players like messi and mascherano, how can you lose ;) I really don't want him to win. The last thing the world needs is a chubby little man running naked through the streets of Buenos Aries. Not to mention they've been unconvincing when teams have organised their defences. Messi is playing very poorly without the service of Iniesta and Xavi.
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Hank
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Bryan wrote:how can you lose ;) Famous last words! ;)
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Bryan
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Argentina for sure! I want Maradona to stick it to the doubters! And with players like messi and mascherano, how can you lose ;)
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Hank
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From what I've seen, which is every game, because I'm off work for the month (!), I think the Germans and Argentine's have put the best case forward... Netherlands, Brazil and Italy have been a step below.
If it was a game of keep ball Spain would win hands down.
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afromanGT
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scouse_roar wrote:Argentina, England or Spain :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Argentina, England or Spain
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afromanGT
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Netherlands played well, but they're still not convincing.
Argentina look good tonight, but there have been some very questionable patches.
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Krauts or The Netherlands
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afromanGT
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After how they played against North Korea? I doubt it.
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Joffa
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I still think Brazil are the ones to beat.
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afromanGT
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Switzerland 8-[
Seriously though, based around what I've seen so far I'd say Germany are a good chance.
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Joffa
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:-k
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