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Katebian got 4 last night for Bulleen
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Excellent bump. Has this been an annual event?
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RedKat wrote:Jordan Tsekenis recently signed for Sydney FCs NYL Any feedback on this kid?
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Stefan Zinni seems to be scoring goals for fun this year in South Melbourne's youth team
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Arthur wrote:Victoria Under 15 Boys Metro
Keegan Coulter = MVFC 2014 NYL GK- now Nunwading City
Dylan Bresolin =Bulleen Lions NPLV 1
James Conversano = Don't know
Zachary De bortoli = Bulleen Lions 2013- 2014 don't know
Baran Karagoz = Don't know
Armend Mimini = Don't Know
James Karvelis = MVFC NYL 2014 -now Kingston NPLV1
Anthony Laus = Trialling at Bury FC 3 weeks ago
Mitchell Beamish = Richmond NPLV1
Bardhi Hysolli = NPLV1 Bulleen - Trialling for MVFC NYL
Eray Kurul = Don't Know
Dylan Murnane = MVFC
Sam Shepherd = Tasmanian????
Jordan Templin = Nunawading City
Justin Yiah = Don't know
Joseph Katebian = Bulleen Lions NPLV1 top scorer - trialling MVFC NYL
Chris Taylor Coach = SMFC Senior Coach and TD
Graham Hockless Assistant Coach
Saleem Nasser Manager
Don't ask me anything about them I don't have a clue
Edited by Arthur: 1/9/2010 10:21:13 AM Bulleen Lions producing lots of talent.
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great idea to bump this need to look across more of the past selections.
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Good bump! Dylan Murnane and Jordan Brown made it to Victory's senior squad, while Milos Ridesic and Damien Miskulin are solid fixtures in our NYL squad and all played minutes with the seniors in pre-season this year.
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Four years on any players emerging?
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nhub24 wrote:one of my best mates Matt Hennessey is in the Vic u/14's. Remember the name, this kid is a prodigy. Also his cousin is Wayne Hennessey, Wolves keeper. You must be mistaken because the name list for this years u/14 Victorian squad that attended Coffs Harbour Nationals are. Jarrah Clear Baki Efe Milos Ridesic Lucas Aoun Tom Demelis Damien Miskulin Luke Gallo Nabi Tuna Harris Samboulidis Dimitar Mitkov Jordan Brown Stefan Zinni David Morovic Simon Soumelidis Lewis Smirlis No Hennessey there, although there are only 15 names on the program from nationals. Was he the last added to the list? If so, a prodigy is probably not what he is otherwise he would be the first chosen. Yeah? Edited by spathi: 1/11/2010 04:20:21 PM
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one of my best mates Matt Hennessey is in the Vic u/14's. Remember the name, this kid is a prodigy. Also his cousin is Wayne Hennessey, Wolves keeper.
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Quote:Small, skilful accepted at last CRAIG FOSTER
October 24, 2010
Genius ... Lionel Messi's talent would have been ignored here. Photo: Getty Images
Would Lionel Messi have made it as a footballer if he lived in Australia? Seems an odd question, granted, until I read this week in a book on the diminutive genius's life that his parents seriously considered emigrating to Australia when the world's best player was in his early teens in order to access treatment for a growth deficiency.
Lionel Messi in the green and gold, imagine what we could do with such a player. Then again, what would we have done? Would we have treated him well and allowed him to develop into a world-class player, or would he have been mistreated and fallen by the wayside somewhere along the way?
The question is timely for two reasons. Firstly, I sat with a young man and his father this week who was told by a number of well-known youth coaches in Australia that his small stature would hinder any chances or dreams he possessed of being a great player, and that he should look elsewhere. Rejection drove the boy offshore and led him to trial at one of the world's largest and most successful football clubs. Guess what. He made it through the trial and stayed a couple of years with a club at the very peak of world football development processes and thinking.
Advertisement: Story continues below It's a typical and common story here, unfortunately, and something we will have to face if we are to gain the success we crave. Time and again some of our most talented kids are told they are not big or strong enough, yet they make it through sheer commitment and drive.
One salient example for us, and one that this boy used as motivation, is our very own superstar, Tim Cahill. As a youngster it is now well known that Tim was told he would not make it, was too small, not good enough, and yet he packed his bags for England and made it through sheer bloody-mindedness and extraordinary willpower.
Fine if this is the exception, but sadly it has been the rule that players without size and strength have been overlooked, and thousands of gifted players leave the game.
But the second reason the question is worth asking is because things might, just might, be changing. Those who watched a spirited performance by the Young Socceroos last week in the final of the Asian Under 19 Championships saw a different Australia emerging, one that played with the ball, built from the back, had several players of exciting technical ability and who possess the tools to attack and take a player on.
We saw a new philosophy of Australian football starting to emerge, one in which the key qualities are skill and technique, not size and strength, or commitment and heart.
Tommy Oar played superbly, taking on the North Korean defence time and again whilst on the other wing, Mathew Leckie attacked the defenders every chance he got, and the game was controlled by the immensely talented Ben Kantarovski and Terry Antonis, two silky midfielders who are a joy to watch.
A few years after a new national philosophy was implemented, we can already see a future Socceroo team coming through with a range of abilities that have not always been valued in this country, where too many youth coaches continue to select the biggest and strongest in a bid for short-term results.
Fifteen years ago, if Lionel Messi had emigrated here, the chances are he would have been destroyed as a player and, like Cahill, told he was too small and needed to ''toughen up''. The wonderful news is that today the chances are he would be identified, and encouraged to use his marvellous individual skills. And this is a critical step forward.
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Wow 2,450 hits and 95 posts, im beside myself.
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spathi wrote:krones3 wrote:spathi wrote:
2: Every team was told to play 1-4-3-3 which I believe all teams did. They were also told that the ball must be played out from the back. No long kicks from goalkeepers or defenders were the instructions given to all teams. And it was good to see that most teams adopted this practice, except for some teams where winning meant everything. I wont mention who the teams were but needless to say that the selected Allstars squads were heavily stacked with players from the teams that played long ball. Not only that but the coaches of those teams were made caches of the Allstars squads.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 10:03:12 AM
Queensland rejects the implication that they play long ball with the largest boys available for selection. I reject your implication that im implying Queensland country played the long ball to the largest boys available.:cool: :cool: :cool: ;) ;) Although they did win group B, very defensive 1-4-3-3 more like 1-4-5-1, but it did get the results. Ugly football to the fore. Edited by spathi: 9/10/2010 03:30:01 PM Well thats disapointing considering that the FFA/Han Berger and co. want the teams to focus on development right???
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krones3 wrote:spathi wrote:
2: Every team was told to play 1-4-3-3 which I believe all teams did. They were also told that the ball must be played out from the back. No long kicks from goalkeepers or defenders were the instructions given to all teams. And it was good to see that most teams adopted this practice, except for some teams where winning meant everything. I wont mention who the teams were but needless to say that the selected Allstars squads were heavily stacked with players from the teams that played long ball. Not only that but the coaches of those teams were made caches of the Allstars squads.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 10:03:12 AM
Queensland rejects the implication that they play long ball with the largest boys available for selection. I reject your implication that im implying Queensland country played the long ball to the largest boys available.:cool: :cool: :cool: ;) ;) Although they did win group B, very defensive 1-4-3-3 more like 1-4-5-1, but it did get the results. Ugly football to the fore. Edited by spathi: 9/10/2010 03:30:01 PM
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spathi wrote:
2: Every team was told to play 1-4-3-3 which I believe all teams did. They were also told that the ball must be played out from the back. No long kicks from goalkeepers or defenders were the instructions given to all teams. And it was good to see that most teams adopted this practice, except for some teams where winning meant everything. I wont mention who the teams were but needless to say that the selected Allstars squads were heavily stacked with players from the teams that played long ball. Not only that but the coaches of those teams were made caches of the Allstars squads.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 10:03:12 AM
Queensland rejects the implication that they play long ball with the largest boys available for selection.
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Decentric wrote:What formations are teams using?
The Director Of Coaching in this state said, before he resigned, that all states would be expected to play 4-3-3 in its various permutations.
He also contended that Han Berger will be sacking some state coaches if they don't.
Are many teams long balls out of defence, or is playing out from the back a more common mode of practice? Jeez I thought you were off the air until 6th October. Must be more BS
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Both the WA teams ( 14's & 15's ) played very well in Coffs. The 15's came from behind against Capital and won the that game. The score at half time was 2-0 to Capital but could have been more, final score as stated above 3-2. Congratulations to both teams for their performances.
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WA excels at National Youth Championships Subscribe to News 4.10.2010 WA's Under 15 National Champions. Photo courtesy Football West Western Australia won their first National Youth Championship in over 30 years after taking out the Under 15's title in Coffs Harbour last week. The 14's also finished equal-third to make it a highly successful tournament for Football West's young up-and-coming talent. Over both age groups, WA had seven All-Star Selections after performing incredibly well throughout the Championships. Slobodan Vulin was named the prestigious Player of the Tournament, while Nicholas Ambrogio took out the Golden Boot. Under 15's Riley Woodcock and Vulin were already identified at January's Institute Challenge, so didn't take part in the All-Star team, taking the total to a WA record nine identified players. The Under 15's were coached by Kenny Weston, while Warren Grieve was in charge of the Under 14's squad. "The quality of our U15's playing style came actually at no surprise," said U15 assistant coach Cris Ola. "Most of the U15 players were involved in the National Training Centre (NTC) program for the whole season and also had a great opportunity to build their international playing experience one month ago in the Gangjin International Tournament against some of the best teams of their age in the world. "A great deal of appreciation has to go to all the people involved in their development so far, including club coaches, NTC coaching staff and Football West High Performance coaching staff." FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 14 BOYS PLAYER NAME SUBURB Daniel PASSARELI BASSENDEAN Joshua TUCKER BANKSIA GROVE Harry HAWKINS CURRAMBINE Gareth CRAWLEY CURRAMBINE Rocco PIZZATA BAYSWATER Leo ATHANASIOU HAMILTON HILL Daniel DESILVA LANDSDALE Jack JONES TAPPING Mohamed BEYAN LEDA Matthew NTOUMENOPOULOS BALLAJURA Jack IREDALE HEATHRIDGE Pearse MCKEE WOODVALE Jesse LAZZARO SPEARWOOD Ben HOMBERT CITY BEACH Matthew AKERMAN PORT KENNEDY Ryan BARKER MELVILLE Coach: Warren Grieve Assistant Coach: Darren Young Team Manager: Paul Turvill FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 15 BOYS PLAYER NAME SUBURB Nicholas AMBROGIO KARDINYA Daniel BUHAGIAR PADBURY Jacob COLLARD CANNING VALE Kieran COLWELL KINROSS Matthew DAVIES MENORA Jordan FRANKEN HILLARYS Scott GALLOWAY THORNLIE Guy KALMA PALMYRA Ogi LALOVIC BOORAGOON Luke RADONICH COOGEE Callum RICHARDSON AUSTRALIND Georgie ATHANASIOU DIANELLA Lawrence SHURUMA BALGA Alexsandar SULESKI DIANELLA Slobodan VULIN STIRLING Riley WOODCOCK KELMSCOTT Coach: Kenny Weston Assistant Coach: Cris Ola Team Manager: Dave Whalley FFA NATIONAL YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIPS RESULTS FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 14 BOYS Tuesday September 28 12pm Football West 1 (Pearse McKee) v Queensland Metro 1 Wednesday September 29 9am Football West 0 v Victoria Metro 3 Thursday September 30 6.30am South Australia 1 v Football West 2 (Matthew Ntoumenopoulos, Pearse McKee) 12.45pm NSW Metro 4 v Football West 1 (Pearse McKee) Friday October 1 6.30am Football West 1 (Daniel DeSilva) v Northern NSW 1 Under 14 All-Star Selections Jack Iredale Daniel DeSilva All-Stars v National Champions Match Under 14 All-Stars 0 NSW Metro 2 FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 15 BOYS Tuesday September 28 12pm Football West 2 (Slobodan Vulin pen, Nicholas Ambrogio) v Capital Football 2 Wednesday September 29 9am Football West 3 (Nicholas Ambrogio, Scott Galloway, Kieran Colwell) v NSW Metro 2 Thursday September 30 6.30am Northern NSW 0 v Football West 2 (Nicholas Ambrogio, Laurence Shuruma) 11.30am South Australia 1 v Football West 3 (Nicholas Ambrogio, Daniel Buhagiar, Kieran Colwell) Friday October 1 9am Football West 2 (Kieran Colwell, Nicholas Ambrogio) v Victoria Metro 1 Under 15 All-Star Selections Laurence Shuruma Daniel Buhagiar Callum Richardson Scott Galloway Nicholas Ambrogio Player of the Tournament Slobodan Vulin Golden Boot Nicholas Ambrogio All-Stars v National Champions Match Under 15 All-Stars 2 Football West 1 (Georgie Athanasiou)
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TBH i dont see how telling teenage boys at one of the highest levels they can play to play for fun and development is going to work, of course they are going to do anything to win.
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spathi wrote:There were a group of coaches selecting the Allstars teams and they included, Han Berger, Gary Van Egmond, Tony Franken and a couple of others that there names elude me right now. Maybe MidfieldMaestro remembers the others.
Actually I saw Tony Vidmar in the selectors box quite a few times and he was the coach of the U/15 SA team.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 04:26:18 PM The other selectors were Kelly Cross and Milan Blagojevich.
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Football West and NNSW played some decent football IMHO. If I said Capital then I would be called biased.
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spathi wrote:There were a group of coaches selecting the Allstars teams and they included, Han Berger, Gary Van Egmond, Tony Franken and a couple of others that there names elude me right now. Maybe MidfieldMaestro remembers the others.
Actually I saw Tony Vidmar in the selectors box quite a few times and he was the coach of the U/15 SA team.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 04:26:18 PM Well thats dispointing that they selected the "long ball" coaches then??? who was the best football team to watch in your opinion???
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There were a group of coaches selecting the Allstars teams and they included, Han Berger, Gary Van Egmond, Tony Franken and a couple of others that there names elude me right now. Maybe MidfieldMaestro remembers the others.
Actually I saw Tony Vidmar in the selectors box quite a few times and he was the coach of the U/15 SA team.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 04:26:18 PM
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spathi wrote:Another year another FFA football nationals has been played and won. Congratulations to Football West in winning the u/15 group A and NSW metro the u/14's. Congratulations also must go to Queensland Country u/15 and NSW Country u/14 for winning group B. By NSW Country winning their group they gain promotion to group A for next year. As there is no u/16 nationals there is no promotion for Queensland Country.
Congratulations must also go to the organisers of the tournament NNSW Football. The pitches provided were of world quality and stood up to the rigors of four days continual use. All games went ahead at scheduled times as there was plenty of time between games, in fact all games started before scheduled times. Dressing rooms for all teams to use, warm up pitches provided and I thought that the referees had a tremendous tournament as well . So a big round of applause from me'
To all participating teams, I am very proud to say that these boys played the game hard but fair. I dont think there was even one red card all tournament and the yellows could have been counted on one hand. So well done to everyone.
There are a few of issues though that I think need addressing:
1. When a player was injured there was no added time and this could sway a couple of results. Even though as I say, there was plenty of time between games to allow for up to 5 minutes at the end of the second half. With halves being 25 minutes long and to lose 5, 6 or seven minutes in a game can be crucial. FFA will state that " we dont care about winning, its the players development that counts " so then why have a promotion and relegation in place? It sort of defeats the purpose, dont you think?
2: Every team was told to play 1-4-3-3 which I believe all teams did. They were also told that the ball must be played out from the back. No long kicks from goalkeepers or defenders were the instructions given to all teams. And it was good to see that most teams adopted this practice, except for some teams where winning meant everything. I wont mention who the teams were but needless to say that the selected Allstars squads were heavily stacked with players from the teams that played long ball. Not only that but the coaches of those teams were made caches of the Allstars squads.
3.The top team in both the u/14 and u/15 of group A played a game against the selected Allstars squad which is a great concept although. Why pick players from the winning teams to play in the Allstars squad? These players were already going to play in this the final game of the week. Why not give a chance to five or six other players to show their abilities? This I thought was a little disappointing.
Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 10:03:12 AM so some of teams didnt follow the instructions from the FFA??? poor form i say to them! And who selected the All Star teams? Han Berger and Co.
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MidfieldMaestro wrote:Amen to that post. Brilliant post spathi, agree with everything there. =d>
Sent you a PM too, by the way.
Thanks mate.
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Amen to that post. Brilliant post spathi, agree with everything there. =d>
Sent you a PM too, by the way.
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Another year another FFA football nationals has been played and won. Congratulations to Football West in winning the u/15 group A and NSW metro the u/14's. Congratulations also must go to Queensland Country u/15 and NSW Country u/14 for winning group B. By NSW Country winning their group they gain promotion to group A for next year. As there is no u/16 nationals there is no promotion for Queensland Country.
Congratulations must also go to the organisers of the tournament NNSW Football. The pitches provided were of world quality and stood up to the rigors of four days continual use. All games went ahead at scheduled times as there was plenty of time between games, in fact all games started before scheduled times. Dressing rooms for all teams to use, warm up pitches provided and I thought that the referees had a tremendous tournament as well . So a big round of applause from me'
To all participating teams, I am very proud to say that these boys played the game hard but fair. I dont think there was even one red card all tournament and the yellows could have been counted on one hand. So well done to everyone.
There are a few of issues though that I think need addressing:
1. When a player was injured there was no added time and this could sway a couple of results. Even though as I say, there was plenty of time between games to allow for up to 5 minutes at the end of the second half. With halves being 25 minutes long and to lose 5, 6 or seven minutes in a game can be crucial. FFA will state that " we dont care about winning, its the players development that counts " so then why have a promotion and relegation in place? It sort of defeats the purpose, dont you think?
2: Every team was told to play 1-4-3-3 which I believe all teams did. They were also told that the ball must be played out from the back. No long kicks from goalkeepers or defenders were the instructions given to all teams. And it was good to see that most teams adopted this practice, except for some teams where winning meant everything. I wont mention who the teams were but needless to say that the selected Allstars squads were heavily stacked with players from the teams that played long ball. Not only that but the coaches of those teams were made caches of the Allstars squads.
3.The top team in both the u/14 and u/15 of group A played a game against the selected Allstars squad which is a great concept although. Why pick players from the winning teams to play in the Allstars squad? These players were already going to play in this the final game of the week. Why not give a chance to five or six other players to show their abilities? This I thought was a little disappointing.
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spathi wrote:Decentric wrote:What formations are teams using?
The Director Of Coaching in this state said, before he resigned, that all states would be expected to play 4-3-3 in its various permutations.
He also contended that Han Berger will be sacking some state coaches if they don't.
Are many teams long balls out of defence, or is playing out from the back a more common mode of practice? All teams are expected to play 1-4-3-3, long balls are frowned upon by the technical director Han Berger. In fact at a meeting last night with all coaches he stated how bad all teams were at playing out from the back, so at least they are doing it and he can see that they are trying to accept the new national curricullum. Interesting point this. Some recalcitrants, who consider themselves experts on football methodology, recommend playing different formations from 1-4-3-3. They contend it is better to play two forwards, conceding possession of the ball in midfield, with more of a traditional physical Australian long ball and second ball style for Australian underage teams playing in the international sphere. They have criticised Berger and Verslieijen for lack of short term results. Australia may even get better results with the playing stocks we have at the moment, using this style in the short term. Long term, it won't help Australia advance as a football nation. Development better tactical and technical footballers long term is paramount compared to Australia getting 'results' in bigger tournaments, by employing less technical football at this point in time. It is important to change the prevailing culture. Some recalcitrants point to some good South American coaches operating in this country. What they say may be true. Conversely, there is no big training centre for coaches to be trained by a few well-credentialled coaches (South American or any others) practising sound methodology aside from evolving FFA courses. FFA courses are becoming more technically oriented with Dutch influence. This is good. Edited by Decentric: 2/10/2010 11:57:47 AM
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Should the u15’s Queensland metro and Queensland country be allowed to play in the same group. Or should they have to play each other before hand to decide group A and group B positions.
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