Let's keep it all nice and neat in 1 place


South Melbourne FC is pleased to announce that Monday's edition of The World Game program on SBS will feature a special report on the club.

The special report will focus on the redevelopment of Lakeside Stadium and the associated infrastructure in the Albert Park precinct, the club's expansion into Asia and the RHB Singapore Cup, the benefits of the proposed FFA Cup to the club, the use of multimedia and social networking advances to promote the club, and a report on the current squad and its aims for the upcoming 2011 Victorian Premier League.

The World Game program can be seen on Monday on SBS2 at 9.30pm or alternatively 11.30pm on SBS1 later that evening.



Edited by chris: 19/1/2011 04:23:01 PM

can't wait

Shouldn't this be in grassroots?

hmmm. SMFC is grassroots football

Will be watching, BJS is 5mins from my place and I'm interested to see what they say about it.

Oh the pettiness.
:roll:

In the definition of these forums, it does seem to qualify more as grassroots.

In saying though, good for SMFC getting its agenda out on display.

As for social networking, are you and Chris part of that process? All I have ever seen on facebook pages, or on forums, is SMFC people being negative and talking down the sport. Lets hope any real strategy changes that. Theres no value in a negative campaign.

Would be very interesting to watch SM's agenda

Who?

grassroots is that way >>>>

Thanks to all of you who find the need to comment whenever any issue regarding SMFC is posted where ever. Your need to post, while negative or derogatory, means there is relevance. As I said before the desire of franchise customers to play and beat a real club like SMFC is deep and they only way to credibility.

I would be more worried if you no-one found the need to make comment.

Good news it will be interesting to watch...

Thing is Arthur this forum is dedicated to Australia Football while SM is a grassroots club

National TV broadcaster, Austarlian Football Club, talking about participation in an international tournament and how the former National Champions are faring under the current regime.

Plenty of Australian relevance.

Thats where your position differs from many.

Many just reply in spite of you in the end unfortunately, after so many negative things you have posted on here. The only positive posts are for your own club afterall, which usually try and sell how powerful it is, or how the HAL is missing out by not having SMFC involved. One could say derogatory comments are usually lead from your own cause, not from the words of others.

Do not confuse replies for relevance of your own, or your clubs, position in the greater scheme of things. Following that line of thinking will only leave you dissapointed:)

Edited by heart_fan: 17/12/2010 05:25:05 PM

Will definitely be worthwhile in my view. Great to see a club like south minus any aid make these type of noises on National tv. Club is still very relevant and much much bigger than a VPL club

Why would you say that? :twisted:

Whatever :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just keep posting we will end up with 10 pages again.

Hrm, I wouldn't interpret Arthur's posts that way at all. Of course he sticks up for his club and it's place in Australian football. But like Benjamin, he is pretty constructive with his criticism of the FFA and HAL.

And my criticism is also positve. The coaching education changes are the best thing that ever happened to this country.

But if I was a fan of Melbourne Heart I'd be suffering from PMT too.

And by the way, just for Heartfan I'm aiming for 10 pages on this topic.

May as well copy and paste 10 pages from the last thread, which was probably only a day or two ago.

As long as you realise he started it.:lol: I have no problem doing it.

"he started it.", "no, he started it." etc.

ok then whats the glory? they were around when smfc were in the top tier...

as a deep down glory supporter I know which version i would rather!

You haven't yet learned to accept your rung in the societal ladder, Arthur. Shame.

I'm just a poor peasant boy Skeptic what can I do but resist?

Another reason why SMFC is NO.1

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/access-all-areas/guilty-pleasures/melbournes-hottest-wags/the-calendar?selectedImage=21

Edited by Arthur: 17/12/2010 07:00:29 PM

As I would do myself and be cause for an increase in resolve.

I think it is very worthwhile to see how a club that is in principle run by members demonstrate growth in all key categories. When the NSL was dispensed with, smfc which had heavily invested into the future had it's revenue streams cut off. No assistance was available to the club nor any exposure. The club was basically sitting In Idle with huge debts and collapse was all but guaranteed.

Via petition and revenue generated by members the club survived. Just. This occured only six years ago. The first 3-4 years was about survival which against all odds we achieved. Then it was about consolidation which we also achieved. Finally the club expanded which is monumental in today's climate.

Today the club finds itself in actually better shape than what it was even in it's glory days. The club Currently has a far better reach than ever before across a much broader Section of our community.

The WG sbs feature will demonstrate how a club like smfc minus financial contribution and extensive marketing and brand assistance from it's governing body, whilst combating mainstream media obscurity and prejudicely defined as "old soccer" by it's bloodline has actually grown and developed. an alternative to the new franchise, tradark compliant form of the game.

You'll never get there, Arthur - I'm not joining in so the won't get the traditional Benjamin vs ton.of.bricks/kapow! arguments to stretch the pages out!!

No, the only real clubs are South Melbourne United And Melbourne Haokah, bring those clubs back!!!!

FUCK the Hellenic and Yarra Park parasites
FUCK OFF SOUTH MELBOURNE

Who are South Melbourne??

EDIT:There is no place for that type of abuse on this forum DO NOT DO IT AGAIN.

Edited by joffa: 18/12/2010 10:48:52 PM

Actually I had a friend whose father was on the SM Utd Committee we played indoor together, while I have a neighbour who played for SM United in the late 1940's in the reserves.

The Hakoah supporters moved to the outer suburbs of Caufield with North Caufield.:lol:

At the moment my wife is out and I can quickly put this on, as she has restricted my access, so it probably won't make 10 mpages.#-o

Well I just finished watching the program and there was no mention of SMFC other than a small piece about the Anastasiadis brothers. What happened?:-k :-k :-k :-k :-k

don't know - do you?

Unfortunately no.

Was abit strange that it did not appear on the show. I was waiting to see it come on, but not to be. It almost looked like they would lead into the story after the segment about the Anastasiadis brothers, but then moved on to other topics.

It was an item that doesn't tie into any specific concern at the moment (the weather in England, the state of the A-League, Luke Wilkshire's opinion on the 50 man Asian Cup squad, etc.) and thus, I assume, will be saved for a "slow news week".

Still, nice to see Boutsi's goal again. Wasn't a foul. Nooooo.

Is that the official line or just your opinion Ben? :d :d :d

Cant say this surprises me

can only say that it is a shame they are putting a race track around it.

The revolution started yet?

what happened to the feature ??

My opinion based on an understanding of how the media works. You have a quiet time, staff on the payroll, you film a feature that can be used at any time over the next month or so - then when nothing much is happening you don't have to resort to presenters streeeeeeeettttcccchiiinggg the intro to the next feature. Common practise in media around the world.

Any news then on when they will possibly show it?

Apparently on tonight

Yep, it was on last night. It wasn't a special report on the club at all, but a good little article on the prospects of an FFA National Cup and what that would mean to a club like SMFC. Interview with Eddie Krncevic along with some info on the Lakeside development - showed South to be quite a professional and ambitious outfit (which most of us know already).

i think those that know football do respect south melbourne and other older clubs

Most of the disrespect, on here anyway, is because of the posters like Paoktzi and Solympic who are incapable of decent discussion, and instead rag on the A-League and all the A-League supporters.

This.
Most people respect south melbourne but there are a handful of sydney olympic/south melb supporters here that give their club a terrible name as they act like they are hardcore PAOK supporters.

Most of the discussion of Sydney olympic/south melbourne is just everybody baiting the other side. It has nothing to do with a persons attitude to their club.

So if you are not for the rants and raves and ideas and thoughts of the olympic boys because it is not for a product it makes it ok to be for the rants and raves and ideas of these people against the real clubs, from an admin that is poor and sad and to me proves why football is not getting anywere

What is this clown talking about???

What, you can't comprehend? Oh sorry I forgot - you're a bit slow aren't you?

And here we have example number 1.

From the Olympic forum -
http://www.olympicultras.proboards.com/index.cgi



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFuBXe89Ph8&feature=player_embedded

reading comments from so many anti-football people including moderators on a wide-reaching forum like FFT is depressing.

im in the fight for all of you as well even if you may not realise it.

unfortunately though i am seeing ideas and concepts for the future of the sport that are against the common good of the game that are being praised as the way forward and 'new football'

this is unacceptable

Whats the common good that you would like to see?

In the end, untimately not everything will please you, and thats life. Many were not pleased with the NSL, now they arent with the HAL, along with the fact that some see no value in the current VPL or NSWPL structure as it is now. Its all a matter of opinion. At the end of the day though its about compromise and solutions based thinking, not self-interest. This is where we must try and work on finding the middle ground.



Edited by Heart_fan: 11/1/2011 10:30:54 PM

i want to see a national competition with legitimacy, with promotion and relegation, with its rightful participants

i want to see a national curriculum infused with a grass roots patronage for youth football, with prestige vested in educating our future generations in the game, in developing skills that will help them in life not just in sport

i want to see football loved every day, with clubs embracing fans and players hungry to play for shirts and emblems, with conversations in cafes not on forums, a month into season break not the night before our first world cup game


im not saying all of these were realities that were lost, but these certainly are not realised today and i feel the status quo will not allow for this

on that basis the status quo needs to end

Good points raised.

The real issue with promotion and relegation is clear, in that we can not afford to have a pro comp with that amount of teams at this stage. It just is not viable. As for 'rightful participants', who are you referring to? Thats very subjective and still needs clear and defined guidelines for entry.

I like the 2nd point, regarding youth development.

Im afraid though that the third point has long passed for football globally, especially the players playing for the shirts and emblems. Its now about money, and rarely loyalty. Why is it that so often a player kisses a badge, then 2 weeks later signs massive deals to move elsewhere? Its becoming a business proposition more each year.

As for conversations at cafes, we have never had that in the broader community, and its something that we should aim for, but its not easy.

In theory the SPLs stance on that is good.But doesnt always work as it was ment to. Gretna was a good example of that. This was a club that was really a nothing club until they were bought by a millionaire who name i cant remember now. He pumped a heap of money into the team and from memory i think they were promoted every year from the bottom div till they got into the premier league. Due to how fast the team progressed their stadium and infastructre werent up to scratch and found themselves as div 1 champions but couldnt be accepted into the premier league. What ended up happening is Gretna struck an arrangement with Motherwell to share their ground. Motherwell is nearly 2 hours away from Gretna but was the closest SPL standard ground and what ended up happening was that it was too far for their supporters to travel and they ended up going bust.

here's the clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFuBXe89Ph8

It was a good short piece, which gave a good account of the clubs support for the FFA Cup.

The Lakeside oval (Bob Jane Stadium) redevelopment looks to be progressing well too. Its a pity that there will be grassed banks though at either end. Never liked that look in a stadium.

doesnt SMFC own their own staduim? so does that mean they will be charging Athletics Victoria rent to use their staduim?

no they are head lease with 99 year term so as good as owning

They certainly did well for themselves in the dealings with the govt back in the 90s, to get in that position. It was luck, but hey its still a good outcome. The latest outcome for the new stadium though is both good and bad for SMFC.

It has new facilities in the stadium, however it must now share the tenancy with AV, AA and the VIS, with limitations on access now likely to occur at times in the year. The new training fields are good though as a compromise, but it may not be a great outcome if the VPL ever moves to summer, as that is athletics season.

love it how this guys is trying to turn the perfext situation into something shit get out of here gypsie

lol have to say, heartfan wat r u talking about luck lol athletics season lol

Im talking the reality of the situation. I gave credit for the clubs dealings and what they have, but I also see complications that actually see SMFC come out with less of a great deal this time.

In the 90s the vic govt wanted the land that the Middle Park stadium was on, which had older facilities, and the club got a great deal out of that, with brand new facilities at Lakeside oval. Thats where being in the right place at the right time came into it, thus being luck. Now, it will have to share that venue with other tenants, with their own access requirements.

Athletics will be moving into the stadium, and its season runs from October to March each year. That is when many bigger athletics events will be held, and also other commitments that AV has to its interclub and training program requirements. That will see stadium access issues at times over that period in particular.

Fair point made - but no different to the Victory sharing Olympic Park with athletics in season 1 and 2- the 2 never got in each others way

The 3 organisations have already commenced a working relationship

Regarding the seats behind the goals - if there is a requirement there will definately be added seats later - that part will remain under review reoccuringy

Hense this venue will should also ensure AAMI's prices remian anchored - should AAMI in future decide to inflate their prices then this stadium will come into consideration - it has been floated that the Heart currently have a favourable agreement at AAMI for the first 3 years - this will not remain in place - after 3 years a break even crowd will be 20K

Regarding smfc - The deal is not only the stadium but the precinct - smfc will enjoy access to surrounding grounds and pavillions and most importnantly the aquatic centre and sport science fascility

In line with the smfc vision regading football academy - this stadium will assist smfc in meeting its objective as the number 1 end to end football institution in this country

SMFC will enjoy direct funding annually from the governemt for its displacement
$1,000,000 up front + Approx $200,000 annually

SMFC will have an operation 7 day per week social fascility and museum

The Agreement has been signed off for 40 years

The committee should be congratulated for an outstanding achievement

The deal our board managed to get is a whole lot better than any of the stadium deals the franchisers have organised. Says a lot doesn't it. Take note all those that choose to criticize our board make-up for having Greek surnames even thought they are all Aussie born and bred. Very smart operators hey????
We don't 'own' the ground per se but the club contribution to the development of the stadium has been independantly valued at around the $7 million mark. So if they ant to boot us out they basically gotta hand over that amount. Also most importantly South is in control of all football matters at the BJS redevelopment. Anyone want to use, hire etc have to see South first. The 6 or so junior and synthetic pitches and the new pavillion built for them is an awesome addition as well. The club has done brilliantly off the field even with all the obstacles and road blocks put in place by 'those' that want to see the club fall over in order to get their grubby hands on this deal.

28.5% of sydney real estate is owned by Greek-Australians but hey there all dirty ethnics

They key difference between our deal and the A-League deals is that we started negotiations in the position of power... Athletics Victoria couldn't do anything until our lease expired, which meant they had to bring something to the table for us as they were desperate to move (or at least Eddie was desperate to get his hands on Olympic Park for Collingwood).

With the A-League teams, they were all put into a position where they had to have a venue of a certain standard or they couldn't even get a license, in many locations there was only one suitable venue, which allowed the management of that venue to bend the local franchise owner over.

As I understand it, Adelaide and the Mariners are the only franchises who are actually looked after by stadium management - everyone else is getting whacked.

Now... Lower the required venue standard and suddenly owning your own venue doesn't look so expensive.

Own (or control) your own venue and you are genuinely in control, can plan ahead, have more revenue streams and you create a real focal point for supporters.

Chris or Benjamin. Do you know what the seated capacity will be after the development and what are the distances to the pitch from the grandstands after the development?

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Also you should start a South Melbourne FC thread to keep all of this info in so it doesn't have to be searched for all the time.

Cheers.

The new stand looks good, with a very nice architectural profile from the back also a great design feature. The new scoreboard will be a great addition too. The blue track suits very well also.

Overall, its a great new addition to the sporting infrastructure of the city, and its great to see the heritage stand being redeveloped.


Edited by heart_fan: 13/1/2011 04:21:16 PM

I believe it's somewhere in the region of 12k seats (undercover), plus capacity on the grass behind the goals.

Distance will be the same as at any other athletics venue - so not perfect, but not as bad as it looks on the animation (which looks really wide).

We all agree that the blue running track is a touch of class.

The distances will definately be a dissapointment for many, but overall the new facilities, and a 2nd covered grandstand, along with a new scoreboard, will be great additions for the matchday experience.

Looks like ES Marks Field are you guys trying to copy Hakoah Ultragirl? hahaha, does look good but

Lol ur a moron thats South Melbournes ground lol

No shit read my response a little closer

lol.. rolled :)

It was a pretty clear response afterall.

that really doesnt make sense. That's South Melbourne..

SOUTH Melbourne produced an inspired performance against South Hobart yesterday to claim the inaugural Hill Street/Thrifty Cup with a 5-0 victory against the Tasmanian state champion.

Over 600 fans were treated to a scintillating exhibition of quality football by the Melbourne club at Darcy Street.

Coach Eddie Krncevic made seven changes to the side that thrashed Olympia Warriors 9-0 on Friday, bringing in Rhodri Payne, Daniel Vasilevski, Brazilian Fernando De Moraes and Carlo Recchia.

South Melbourne took less than 10 minutes to open the scoring, with Kyle Joryeff outmuscling Loic Feral at the back before firing into the top corner in the eighth minute.

Midfielders Marinos Gasparis, De Moraes and Vasilevski controlled the tempo of the match. Vasilevski slotted home clinically on 25 minutes.

Ken Morton's South Hobart struggled as striker Andy Brennan limped off before the break, and Josh Fielding, goalkeeper Sam Kruijver and defender Daniel Brown were sidelined in the second half.

Joryeff added his second early in the second half, capitalising on a defensive error, before he turned provider for De Moraes to tap home the fourth.

Man of the match Joryeff had his hat-trick after Cameron Williams brought down the striker in the box and he converted the spot-kick.

South Hobart went close when Kostas Kanakaris struck the woodwork in the first half and Tom Roach headed against the upright in the second, but Morton admitted his side was outclassed.

"We're disappointed with the scoreline, we didn't defend well at all throughout the 90 minutes and three goals were gifts," Morton said.

"We never got our foot on the ball and played. If you give quality sides like South Melbourne time and space they'll play.

"Their passing was more clinical, their finishing was deadly and at the back they gave nothing away."

Krncevic was pleased with his side's performance.

"It was a good hit-out for us," Krncevic said.

"We played with our first 11. It was probably the first time in two months we put a squad together for the senior team."





http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/01/17/200581_soccer.html

Good result.

Havent heard much about the strength of the Tasmanian league before, but as the champions last year, its certainly an eye opener. Both teams being in off-season doesnt give totally accurate picture, but its good to see the potential of these games in a developmental sense for all involved.

Edited by heart_fan: 19/1/2011 04:31:09 PM

interesting to hear.

tasmanian media respect south but good to see

Olympia left in visitors' wake
   JULIUS ROSS   |   January 16, 2011 12.01am

SOUTH Melbourne humbled southern Premier League outfit Olympia Warriors on Friday night, showcasing its superiority with an impressive 9-0 victory at KGV Park.

South's coach Eddie Krncevic fielded a young side in the first half, but the visitors needed just seven minutes to register their first goal with Nick Jacobs scoring a superb lob from the edge of the box, following a pass from Seba Petrovic.

Olympia defended valiantly after conceding, but after enduring continuous South Melbourne attacks, the home side succumbed to another Jacobs strike four minutes before the interval.

Jacobs completed his hat-trick two minutes into the second half, pouncing on a defensive mix-up in the Olympia backline as the floodgates threatened to open.

Kyle Joryeff added a fourth with a well-directed header after a pin-point Jacobs cross on 56 minutes, before Krncevic introduced some of his more experienced players, including his son, Jesse.

The coach's son didn't disappoint, piling on five goals in 28 minutes.

Krncevic showed his prowess in the box, calmly finishing good build-ups by his team mates to register a quick-fire hat-trick with goals in the 63rd, 72nd and 75th minutes, before stepping up to slot home a penalty three minutes before time for his fourth.

Krncevic applied the icing to the visitors' cake with a header on the stroke of full-time.

"It was a good hit-out. I'm happy my strikers got on the score sheet and it was interesting to analyse my youngsters in the first half and see how they adapted," coach Krncevic said.

The Olympia players struggled to hide their disappointment after the full-time whistle, but assistant coach Mark Loftus highlighted a number of positives to come out of the exhibition match.

"Obviously we're disappointed; we've got a lot to build on but it's early days. We've got a new squad, but no one wants to get a hiding like that," Loftus said.

"But we can build from it. There were a couple of good performances by the players and they [South Melbourne] were class all around the ground and we can learn from them."

South Melbourne meets State champion South Hobart today.

http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/01/16/200391_soccer.html

Some good results a month out from the start of the season.

Must say the media attention south received in Tassie the last 2 pre seasons was not expected and a nice surprise.

If and a big if (bordering on conspiracy theory) if smfc were to be the 3rd team in Melbourne, some of their home games would be in tassie like hawthorn in the AFL

Definitely worth aention at the very least. 600 fans for a nothing game is noticeable. Imagine that

Edited by chris: 19/1/2011 04:50:24 PM

Not sure I like that concept too much.

Unless we change our name to SOUTH OF MELBOURNE FC

The name Southern Cross FC would have worked well for that type of situation though, give its generic type nature.

chris, how is Rhodri Payne doing? Looking sharp, or just mediocre? He's one of those players permanently based in Australia, meaning we never get to see them play :(

I have not seen him play this season

He is highly regarded at the club however has lost some of his run recently

He normally starts off LB

Have been informed the premiere (i don't even know his name) was at the game by one of the committee boys and discussions of some sort were held. Pricks will not tell me what was discussed......yet

Big George K was taken back about the knowledge about football by the public and more specifically smfc

The boys were held up on a number of occasions by the public asking about us on The streets

Playing games or having a relationship with Tasmania is not on the agenda, but the recognition felt great according to the committee

Never say Never


Edited by chris: 19/1/2011 08:26:26 PM

Tasmania United backed by SMFC.

Wouldn't that be something...

Would be the stuff of legends...

Only problem is - our major contribution to the SXFC bid was the facilities we control. Not sure what use they would be to a Tasmanian side. :-k