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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAny country that boycotts over that can go fuck itself. Somebody in Commons, I think it was, described it as an 'act of war' There's been so many crimes committed as an act of war and many much worse then this crime, so for me I'd have no respect for a hypocritical country to act all good and boycott a world cup over an allegation. It's obviously not quite as huge as invading Ukraine or furnishing your sponsored-militia with weaponry which is then used to bring down a commercial aircraft (except for the poor individuals who got poisoned, depending on the how bad it ends up for them). But one crime after another after another after another without adequate punishment can, rightly, be interpreted as the final straw. Seriously fuck our fake news I wish Australia had a leader like Putin over the flop we currently have and have had in the past. This is the sort of comment that has me seriously concerned about our future as a democratic society. At least we can criticise our politicians. There's nothing to worry about, we'll always have flops running this country if that's your wish. I'd rather have the flops we have now than an authoritarian dictator that murders journalists, jails opposing politicians, de-criminalises domestic violence and essentially outlaws being gay. Perhaps you should go live in Russia if you can't appreciate how much better it is here. If I could I would but it's too late and near impossible. You can't just pick which country to live in and get accepted just like that. I'm here to stay. Don't get all worked up because I don't rate either of our parties it's not the country I don't like it's our leaders. I wouldn't mind if many of our journos got killed for shit stirring anyways. You either kill scum or throw the scum in jail and that's all Putin's done. Thank god we live in a country that does not let people like you in power...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAny country that boycotts over that can go fuck itself. Somebody in Commons, I think it was, described it as an 'act of war' There's been so many crimes committed as an act of war and many much worse then this crime, so for me I'd have no respect for a hypocritical country to act all good and boycott a world cup over an allegation. It's obviously not quite as huge as invading Ukraine or furnishing your sponsored-militia with weaponry which is then used to bring down a commercial aircraft (except for the poor individuals who got poisoned, depending on the how bad it ends up for them). But one crime after another after another after another without adequate punishment can, rightly, be interpreted as the final straw. Seriously fuck our fake news I wish Australia had a leader like Putin over the flop we currently have and have had in the past. This is the sort of comment that has me seriously concerned about our future as a democratic society. At least we can criticise our politicians. There's nothing to worry about, we'll always have flops running this country if that's your wish. I'd rather have the flops we have now than an authoritarian dictator that murders journalists, jails opposing politicians, de-criminalises domestic violence and essentially outlaws being gay. Perhaps you should go live in Russia if you can't appreciate how much better it is here. If I could I would but it's too late and near impossible. You can't just pick which country to live in and get accepted just like that. I'm here to stay. Don't get all worked up because I don't rate either of our parties it's not the country I don't like it's our leaders. I wouldn't mind if many of our journos got killed for shit stirring anyways. You either kill scum or throw the scum in jail and that's all Putin's done. I'm truly lost for words. I'm just curious about one thing. Do you put America in the same category as Australia in regards to being free to do what you want or do you atleast accept that even in America many people have been murdered by their own government, just like has been done in Russia and many other countries. Do you not place their leaders in the same category? Julian Assange has basically locked himself up in the Ecuador embassy for so many years now because he fears for his life too. My basic question is do you accept that there's evil going on with all these leaders of the world, or is it simply just Putin and all the others western media always bang on about? You're moving around so damn much I can't keep up with you. I'll try to keep it simple. All governments are capable of unspeakable acts. Governments are made up of people. People are people: some are good, some bad and most of us somewhere in between. Many people will do unspeakable things to protect their interests. My point is when you restrict press freedom and the democratic voting process you allow certain people to commit acts with impunity. Thats what sets Putin apart from democratically elected leaders in countries with press freedoms. Okay but overall you agree that boycotting the world cup in Russia is a stupid idea right? Ohh, is that what this discussion is about?? 😉 I just can't believe there is people out there honestly claiming we should boycott. Biggest joke out it's the World Cup and had nothing to do with politics. I thought Sydneyfc1987 might have been wanting that too but I was wrong thankfully so my bad on that matter.
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+xNever heard something so stupid. Whinging poms. Just ban Chelsea players from the England Squad
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAny country that boycotts over that can go fuck itself. Somebody in Commons, I think it was, described it as an 'act of war' There's been so many crimes committed as an act of war and many much worse then this crime, so for me I'd have no respect for a hypocritical country to act all good and boycott a world cup over an allegation. It's obviously not quite as huge as invading Ukraine or furnishing your sponsored-militia with weaponry which is then used to bring down a commercial aircraft (except for the poor individuals who got poisoned, depending on the how bad it ends up for them). But one crime after another after another after another without adequate punishment can, rightly, be interpreted as the final straw. Seriously fuck our fake news I wish Australia had a leader like Putin over the flop we currently have and have had in the past. This is the sort of comment that has me seriously concerned about our future as a democratic society. At least we can criticise our politicians. There's nothing to worry about, we'll always have flops running this country if that's your wish. I'd rather have the flops we have now than an authoritarian dictator that murders journalists, jails opposing politicians, de-criminalises domestic violence and essentially outlaws being gay. Perhaps you should go live in Russia if you can't appreciate how much better it is here. If I could I would but it's too late and near impossible. You can't just pick which country to live in and get accepted just like that. I'm here to stay. Don't get all worked up because I don't rate either of our parties it's not the country I don't like it's our leaders. I wouldn't mind if many of our journos got killed for shit stirring anyways. You either kill scum or throw the scum in jail and that's all Putin's done. Thank god we live in a country that does not let people like you in power... Yeh I'd have people who write bullshit articles thrown in jail. Someone like Rebecca Wilson would have done time and be banned from writing for another paper. Maybe then the news you read would be accurate like it should. Considering you would hate to live in a country like that it sounds like you're a blowass shit stirrer yourself lol
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+x+xNever heard something so stupid. Whinging poms. Just ban Chelsea players from the England Squad Can we ban Chelsea from the EPL? Roman has links with Putin. And as an Arsenal fan it'll help us get into the Europa league 😎
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It's disturbing how many people here got offended at some guy calling Abbott a cnt in a roundabout way. And it's all the usual suspects, the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. And than for good measure, we get some retard saying he wants to live in Russia and kill the "shit-stirring" journalists. Also 9/11 was a set up because Building 7!
This is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport. There's no hope for football in this country if most of its true fans are unpleasant fuckwits. I've come to realise that we are a much bigger problem than the the FFA.
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+xThis is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport.
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+xIt's disturbing how many people here got offended at some guy calling Abbott a cnt in a roundabout way. And it's all the usual suspects, the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. And than for good measure, we get some retard saying he wants to live in Russia and kill the "shit-stirring" journalists. Also 9/11 was a set up because Building 7! This is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport. There's no hope for football in this country if most of its true fans are unpleasant fuckwits. I've come to realise that we are a much bigger problem than the the FFA. You believe the whole plane disintegrated but the terrorists passport survived with no burn marks on it, hell how the fuck did it survive at all lol Fuck me dead there's no way back for some brainwashed flops on this forum.
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+xIt's disturbing how many people here got offended at some guy calling Abbott a cnt in a roundabout way. And it's all the usual suspects, the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. And than for good measure, we get some retard saying he wants to live in Russia and kill the "shit-stirring" journalists. Also 9/11 was a set up because Building 7! This is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport. There's no hope for football in this country if most of its true fans are unpleasant fuckwits. I've come to realise that we are a much bigger problem than the the FFA. This post makes me happy.
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+x the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. I don't really think these type of people dominate the board. For every MVFC, Marconi and Robstazz there's dozens of posters who ignore all the shit and just want to use a football forum to talk about football.
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New angle for 442 to generate more traffic I guess...
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+x+x the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. I don't really think these type of people dominate the board. For every MVFC, Marconi and Robstazz there's dozens of posters who ignore all the shit and just want to use a football forum to talk about football. I actually agree with you I should learn to ignore shit that has nothing to do with football. Got sucked into it.
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yeah nah no ones boycotting the world cup. Total fake news
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Does anyone know how much we get for qualifying for the world cup, and more so how much more you get depending on how far you go in it?
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+x+xFFS, I don't support a boycott, has nothing to do with sport and Australia. only if Russia gassed 20 Aussies on Aussie soil ? Then you send a squad of Matt Simon's :) , its a mute point, the guy was a Russian spy who defected.
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+xDoes anyone know how much we get for qualifying for the world cup, and more so how much more you get depending on how far you go in it? 15 million
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+x+x+xFFS, I don't support a boycott, has nothing to do with sport and Australia. only if Russia gassed 20 Aussies on Aussie soil ? Then you send a squad of Matt Simon's :) , its a mute point, the guy was a Russian spy who defected. - A police officer who fell ill after attending the incident - Det Sgt Nick Bailey - was also taken to hospital and remains in a serious condition
- Of the 38 people who have been seen in hospital in relation to the incident, 34 have been discharged
- Only Mr Skripal, his daughter Yulia and Det Sgt Bailey remain in hospital. One person is being monitored as an outpatient but is not showing any signs of exposure
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+x+x+x+xFFS, I don't support a boycott, has nothing to do with sport and Australia. only if Russia gassed 20 Aussies on Aussie soil ? Then you send a squad of Matt Simon's :) , its a mute point, the guy was a Russian spy who defected. - A police officer who fell ill after attending the incident - Det Sgt Nick Bailey - was also taken to hospital and remains in a serious condition
- Of the 38 people who have been seen in hospital in relation to the incident, 34 have been discharged
- Only Mr Skripal, his daughter Yulia and Det Sgt Bailey remain in hospital. One person is being monitored as an outpatient but is not showing any signs of exposure
Oh, so there more people then when I first read the story, have they actually proved it was the Russian's Still, it ain't our fight and has nothing to do with sport, you want to hurt them do it with trade
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+x+x+x+x+xFFS, I don't support a boycott, has nothing to do with sport and Australia. only if Russia gassed 20 Aussies on Aussie soil ? Then you send a squad of Matt Simon's :) , its a mute point, the guy was a Russian spy who defected. - A police officer who fell ill after attending the incident - Det Sgt Nick Bailey - was also taken to hospital and remains in a serious condition
- Of the 38 people who have been seen in hospital in relation to the incident, 34 have been discharged
- Only Mr Skripal, his daughter Yulia and Det Sgt Bailey remain in hospital. One person is being monitored as an outpatient but is not showing any signs of exposure
have they actually proved it was the Russian's Bloke who invented it is fairly sure. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/only-russia-could-be-behind-uk-poison-attack-toxin-inventor-says/9546298either that or they've lost control of the stockpile
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+x+x+x+x+x+xFFS, I don't support a boycott, has nothing to do with sport and Australia. only if Russia gassed 20 Aussies on Aussie soil ? Then you send a squad of Matt Simon's :) , its a mute point, the guy was a Russian spy who defected. - A police officer who fell ill after attending the incident - Det Sgt Nick Bailey - was also taken to hospital and remains in a serious condition
- Of the 38 people who have been seen in hospital in relation to the incident, 34 have been discharged
- Only Mr Skripal, his daughter Yulia and Det Sgt Bailey remain in hospital. One person is being monitored as an outpatient but is not showing any signs of exposure
have they actually proved it was the Russian's Bloke who invented it is fairly sure. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/only-russia-could-be-behind-uk-poison-attack-toxin-inventor-says/9546298either that or they've lost control of the stockpile 😂😂😂😂
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+xIt's disturbing how many people here got offended at some guy calling Abbott a cnt in a roundabout way. And it's all the usual suspects, the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. And than for good measure, we get some retard saying he wants to live in Russia and kill the "shit-stirring" journalists. Also 9/11 was a set up because Building 7! This is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport. There's no hope for football in this country if most of its true fans are unpleasant fuckwits. I've come to realise that we are a much bigger problem than the the FFA. This hasn't been my experience, but I usually nope-out of most political discussions on here, it's not what I'm here for. There are definitely threads where it spills over but you'll get that on most forums.
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If only the Uk cared as much about the actual terror attacks happening in their country
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+xIf only the Uk cared as much about the actual terror attacks happening in their country Trust me don't waste your time. Some people are so ignorant they pretend to play the good guy and claim they want to do this or that because this person did this or that, while the same people they support have done the exact sane thing and in many cases much worse and they've never entertained the idea of a boycott. Too many sheep in this world that simply let the media control their minds. But as you said before the boycott won't happen because the majority of people don't give a rat's ass about what happened. They'll be there for football and sight seeing and partying, no one cares about a rat who got poisoned, especially when no one knows who did it.
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+xThis is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of You clearly don't spend much time on Internet forums. This place is fairly tame 95% of the time.
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+x+xIt's disturbing how many people here got offended at some guy calling Abbott a cnt in a roundabout way. And it's all the usual suspects, the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. And than for good measure, we get some retard saying he wants to live in Russia and kill the "shit-stirring" journalists. Also 9/11 was a set up because Building 7! This is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport. There's no hope for football in this country if most of its true fans are unpleasant fuckwits. I've come to realise that we are a much bigger problem than the the FFA. This hasn't been my experience, but I usually nope-out of most political discussions on here, it's not what I'm here for. There are definitely threads where it spills over but you'll get that on most forums. To be fair, on what reasonable basis could this thread be a football discussion? There's not a damn thing to do with football. It's an article about state espionage with a football headline.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAny country that boycotts over that can go fuck itself. Somebody in Commons, I think it was, described it as an 'act of war' There's been so many crimes committed as an act of war and many much worse then this crime, so for me I'd have no respect for a hypocritical country to act all good and boycott a world cup over an allegation. It's obviously not quite as huge as invading Ukraine or furnishing your sponsored-militia with weaponry which is then used to bring down a commercial aircraft (except for the poor individuals who got poisoned, depending on the how bad it ends up for them). But one crime after another after another after another without adequate punishment can, rightly, be interpreted as the final straw. Seriously fuck our fake news I wish Australia had a leader like Putin over the flop we currently have and have had in the past. This is the sort of comment that has me seriously concerned about our future as a democratic society. At least we can criticise our politicians. There's nothing to worry about, we'll always have flops running this country if that's your wish. I'd rather have the flops we have now than an authoritarian dictator that murders journalists, jails opposing politicians, de-criminalises domestic violence and essentially outlaws being gay. Perhaps you should go live in Russia if you can't appreciate how much better it is here. If I could I would but it's too late and near impossible. You can't just pick which country to live in and get accepted just like that. I'm here to stay. Don't get all worked up because I don't rate either of our parties it's not the country I don't like it's our leaders. I wouldn't mind if many of our journos got killed for shit stirring anyways. You either kill scum or throw the scum in jail and that's all Putin's done. Thank god we live in a country that does not let people like you in power... The irony of it is that we do. And it's a beautiful thing. But, thankfully, the electorate would not vote a person advancing such an agenda in to power.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAny country that boycotts over that can go fuck itself. Somebody in Commons, I think it was, described it as an 'act of war' There's been so many crimes committed as an act of war and many much worse then this crime, so for me I'd have no respect for a hypocritical country to act all good and boycott a world cup over an allegation. It's obviously not quite as huge as invading Ukraine or furnishing your sponsored-militia with weaponry which is then used to bring down a commercial aircraft (except for the poor individuals who got poisoned, depending on the how bad it ends up for them). But one crime after another after another after another without adequate punishment can, rightly, be interpreted as the final straw. Seriously fuck our fake news I wish Australia had a leader like Putin over the flop we currently have and have had in the past. This is the sort of comment that has me seriously concerned about our future as a democratic society. At least we can criticise our politicians. Agreed. At least robstazzz can say what he wants, however much you or I might disagree. If he said something so at odds with the ruling party in Russia, he'd be in trouble.
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+x+x+xIt's disturbing how many people here got offended at some guy calling Abbott a cnt in a roundabout way. And it's all the usual suspects, the alt-righters, neo-cons and bitters who have come to completely dominate this board. And than for good measure, we get some retard saying he wants to live in Russia and kill the "shit-stirring" journalists. Also 9/11 was a set up because Building 7! This is by far the worst online community I've ever been a part of, and easily the worst of any Australian sport. There's no hope for football in this country if most of its true fans are unpleasant fuckwits. I've come to realise that we are a much bigger problem than the the FFA. This hasn't been my experience, but I usually nope-out of most political discussions on here, it's not what I'm here for. There are definitely threads where it spills over but you'll get that on most forums. To be fair, on what reasonable basis could this thread be a football discussion? There's not a damn thing to do with football. It's an article about state espionage with a football headline. Mrs May spoke to US President Donald Trump about the issue on Tuesday, with a US spokesman saying the leader told her "the US was with the UK all the way,
So the USA might join the boycott, and rumour has it , also Holland and Italy
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Initially I thought there was almost no chance that HMG would tell the England team to boycott. In light of the Nikolai Glushkov's death, I think there is now a slim chance.
If he was killed in the last couple of days (and, as is highly probable, it was a Kremlin hit), then Putin is sneering at Theresa May. She had good reason to be livid about the Skripal poisoning. But if he thinks he can go and order another hit during this tense period, then I'd say he's got another thing coming. By sending the England team, there's a valid interpretation that she's endorsing Putin.
I think the most calculated diplomatic response would be manifold. Some of it financial, some of it military (ramping up UK armed forces on NATO borders and pushing along Ukrainian inclusion in NATO). But one thing that does work is to make Russia lose face. Therefore, it would be understandable to pull the England team out of the World Cup.
I thought the type of classes who tend to read the tabloids more would be opposed to a World Cup boycott. But having a look at the tabloids, there are articles calling for a boycott.
So I'd say a slim chance England will boycott the thing entirely. Where does this leave Australia. If the England team boycotts, I say about 60/40 that the Australian Government will make the Socceroos boycott, too.
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+xInitially I thought there was almost no chance that HMG would tell the England team to boycott. In light of the Nikolai Glushkov's death, I think there is now a slim chance. If he was killed in the last couple of days (and, as is highly probable, it was a Kremlin hit), then Putin is sneering at Theresa May. She had good reason to be livid about the Skripal poisoning. But if he thinks he can go and order another hit during this tense period, then I'd say he's got another thing coming. By sending the England team, there's a valid interpretation that she's endorsing Putin. I think the most calculated diplomatic response would be manifold. Some of it financial, some of it military (ramping up UK armed forces on NATO borders and pushing along Ukrainian inclusion in NATO). But one thing that does work is to make Russia lose face. Therefore, it would be understandable to pull the England team out of the World Cup. I thought the type of classes who tend to read the tabloids more would be opposed to a World Cup boycott. But having a look at the tabloids, there are articles calling for a boycott. So I'd say a slim chance England will boycott the thing entirely. Where does this leave Australia. If the England team boycotts, I say about 60/40 that the Australian Government will make the Socceroos boycott, too. England aren't boycotting
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