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Vettels gearbox is fucked. Car just lost all power on the final corner. Vettel out of the race, and he was leading!!!!! Both major race leaders lose their #1 position to big incidnts.
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It looks like it's going to be a 6-lap sprint to the finish!
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ANOTHER TYRE FAILRE THIS TIME SERGIO PEREZ AGAIN ON HANGER STRAIGHT. FMD This is a serious, serious issue. Will they bring out the SC for it?
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Mark Webber is into third. C'MON WEBBER!!!!!!!
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Sergio Perez has retired, that tyre blow out has wrecked the underside of his car! RICARRDO LOSES TWO SPOTS IN 200 METERS TO ALONSO AND HAMILTON
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Webber into 2nd!!!! nearly took out Raikkonens rear wing with that overtake, C'MON WEBBS, 1ST IS WITHIN YOUR GRASP!!!
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FINAL LAP looks like Rosberg will hold onto 1st
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Webber did well, but couldn't quite catch Rosberg who takes out the 2013 Silverstone Grand Prix! 1: Nico Rosberg 2: Mark Webber 3: Fernando Alonso 4: Lewis Hamilton Even if you hate Hamilton, he drove very well to get back to 4th given he was running last after leading for the first quarter of the race
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Turned into a very good race. I'm a big Webber fan, but nobody can be a fan of his consistently poor starts. Surely he would've won had he had a decent start (and everything else that happened, happened).
Yet more problems for Pirelli. Going to be interesting seeing them try to explain it.
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Jeebus Heiny, spam much? Talk about the race, don't spam sky's commentary.
Webber probably could have won if he hadn't totally dicked the start. It was a superb race by him given his circumstances. But the real talking point will be the tyres. Pirelli this season are dealing with an absolute PR nightmare as it is, let alone after this race. That was an absolute disaster.
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Webber was the innocent victim though before the 1st corner at start. Bloody Grosjean got pushed forcing him over into webbers path. Debacle of a race due to tyres imploding adding to the madness but good luck to webber surviving the lottery for a change picking up the crumbs, same for hamilton having copped the 1st tyre blow out whilst leading recovering for 4th.
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Quote:Webber was the innocent victim though before the 1st corner at start. It was 50-50 really. When you try to go into that first turn 3 abreast someone has to lose out. No surprise it was Grosjean who's in another fender bender though. I'd love to know what was cutting the tyres up over turn 4/5's ripple strips.
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Here you fellas first Pirelli press release : Pirelli claim four reasons added up to tyre failures Pirelli announces reasons for Silverstone failures Pirelli has released its reasons for the tyre failures at Silverstone, citing a combination of factors that led to the unprecedented string of left-rear tyre blowouts. The tyre manufacturer, which is deeply upset over the exploding tyre crisis, said that rear tyres mounted the wrong way front, low tyre pressures, extreme cambers and high kerbs led to the extreme failures. Pirelli insists that the 2013 tyre range does not compromise driver safety if used in the correct manner and that it meets all the safety standards requested by the FIA. Pirelli have further requested a change in the rules to have access to real-time data of the tyres operating in competition. It has been concluded that the Kevlar belt rear tyres that were tested in free practice at Canada last month will be used at the Nurburgring this weekend. At the Hungarian GP from July 26-28, a new range of tyres that combined the 2012 structures with the 2013 compounds will be available after being tested at Silverstone using mainstay drivers and 2013 cars during the Young Driver Test. “What happened at Silverstone upsets us. With these sophisticated tyres it’s vital for us to see data such as temperature, pressures and camber,” Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembrey said. “While waiting for a revision to the rules, we will supply tyres that are easier to manage.” “What happened at Silverstone was completely unexpected and it was the first time that anything like this has ever occurred in more than a century of Pirelli in motorsport. “These incidents, which have upset us greatly, have stressed the urgency of the changes that we already suggested – which will be introduced during for free practice in Germany on Friday. “We would like to acknowledge the willingness of the FIA, FOM teams, and drivers to act quickly to find an immediate solution to the problem.”
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Quote:The tyre manufacturer, which is deeply upset over the exploding tyre crisis, said that rear tyres mounted the wrong way front, low tyre pressures, extreme cambers and high kerbs led to the extreme failures. 4 teams mounted the tyres the wrong way? Fuck off.
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Heineken wrote:Quote:The tyre manufacturer, which is deeply upset over the exploding tyre crisis, said that rear tyres mounted the wrong way front, low tyre pressures, extreme cambers and high kerbs led to the extreme failures. 4 teams mounted the tyres the wrong way? Fuck off. Uhh, they gave 4 different reasons. It's right there in what you quoted.
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What is with Webbers starts? He is horrid off the lights. Every time he wins pole he gives at least 3 or 4 spots before the first corner.
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Funky Munky wrote:Heineken wrote:Quote:The tyre manufacturer, which is deeply upset over the exploding tyre crisis, said that rear tyres mounted the wrong way front, low tyre pressures, extreme cambers and high kerbs led to the extreme failures. 4 teams mounted the tyres the wrong way? Fuck off. Uhh, they gave 4 different reasons. It's right there in what you quoted. Any one of those individual factors shouldn't cause a blow-out. I have my doubts that any pit crew would mount a tyre backwards. These guys are insanely well drilled.
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Heineken wrote:Quote:The tyre manufacturer, which is deeply upset over the exploding tyre crisis, said that rear tyres mounted the wrong way front, low tyre pressures, extreme cambers and high kerbs led to the extreme failures. 4 teams mounted the tyres the wrong way? Fuck off. I think they do it on purpose, not as a mistake, adding this to the low pressure below the reccomended level, and some teams refusing Pirelli permission to change the tyres to kevlar belted, I have some sympathy with Pirelli.
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aitkenmike wrote:Heineken wrote:Quote:The tyre manufacturer, which is deeply upset over the exploding tyre crisis, said that rear tyres mounted the wrong way front, low tyre pressures, extreme cambers and high kerbs led to the extreme failures. 4 teams mounted the tyres the wrong way? Fuck off. I think they do it on purpose, not as a mistake, adding this to the low pressure below the reccomended level, and some teams refusing Pirelli permission to change the tyres to kevlar belted, I have some sympathy with Pirelli. 1) They need to mount the tyres a certain way because one wall is thicker than the other. 2) The tyre pressure level is an obvious issue but see point 3: 3) The teams design their car for maximum efficiency based around a certain tyre set up a certain way. Changing the tyre mid-season is akin to moving the goalposts for the team and basically throws their entire season our the window.
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I have a bit of sympathy for Pirelli too. The FIA have leaned on tyres too much to try and create a show, more overtaking and teams on different strategies. It's worked to an extent, but if you purposely make the supersofts too fragile these problems are going to occur.
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f1worldchamp wrote:I have a bit of sympathy for Pirelli too. The FIA have leaned on tyres too much to try and create a show, more overtaking and teams on different strategies. It's worked to an extent, but if you purposely make the supersofts too fragile these problems are going to occur. They weren't the 'supersoft' tyres. They had Medium compound and Hard Compound as the options for the race.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:I have a bit of sympathy for Pirelli too. The FIA have leaned on tyres too much to try and create a show, more overtaking and teams on different strategies. It's worked to an extent, but if you purposely make the supersofts too fragile these problems are going to occur. They weren't the 'supersoft' tyres. They had Medium compound and Hard Compound as the options for the race. For each race theere are 2 compunds, so for each circumstance there is a 'soft' and a 'hard', regardless of there the sit on the scale oustide of that particular event. The FIA have pushed Pirelli to make the difference between the as large as possible, to put drivers on different strategies to keep the race interesting. To theis end, at any particular track, the softer of the two compounds offered is wearing way too fast, and teams are pushing the envelope.
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Drivers are threatening to withdraw from the German GP this weekend if there are repeats of tyre failures seen at Silverstone. Quote: Formula 1 drivers have threatened to boycott Sunday's German Grand Prix if there is a repeat of the tyre failures experienced at Silverstone.
The Grand Prix Drivers' Association, which represents the vast majority of drivers, said its members wanted to express their "deepest concerns".
The GPDA added: "If similar problems manifest themselves at the German GP, we shall immediately withdraw."
Six drivers suffered failures during the British Grand Prix last weekend. Pirelli tyres
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Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton, Ferrari drivers Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso, Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne, Sauber's Esteban Gutierrez and McLaren's Sergio Perez were all affected.
Tyre supplier Pirelli has produced a tyre of a different design for this weekend's race in an attempt to solve the problem.
The GPDA statement said: "We trust that the changes made to the tyres will have the desired results and that similar problems will not occur during the German GP weekend."
Red Bull driver Mark Webber said: "Actions speak louder than words and Pirelli has to do something from a safety perspective.
"Performance is one thing but when you have safety involved, you have to find the right way for all of us.
"Silverstone was a very dramatic and extremely unsafe scenario for all of us."
Earlier on Thursday, Alonso described the experience of being right behind Perez when the Mexican's tyre failed.
The Spaniard, who was travelling at 179mph, said: "It was a dangerous situation.
"I committed to overtake Sergio on the left. I was lucky because maybe if I chose the right, everything would hit my helmet.
"There are pieces of steel coming at 300kph so it would be like a bullet or a knife." The Silverstone six
Lewis Hamilton: Left rear explodes on lap eight Fernando Alonso: Right rear deflates on lap nine Felipe Massa: Left rear blows on lap 10 Jean-Eric Vergne: Left rear blows on lap 15 Esteban Gutierrez: Front left goes on lap 29 Sergio Perez: Left rear blows on lap 47
He added: "Pirelli made some changes. We trust them. We think they solve the problem."
The GPDA is chaired by Pedro de la Rosa, with Sebastian Vettel and Jenson Button as directors, but Hamilton and Lotus driver Kimi Raikkonen are not members.
It has been concerned for some time about the number of tyre failures this season.
In the early races there were a series of delaminations. This is where the tread separates from the tyre but it stays inflated.
After this, the GPDA asked Formula 1's governing body, the FIA, for a reassurance that changes would be made.
Ahead of last month's Canadian Grand Prix Pirelli wanted to introduce new tyres but this was blocked by three teams who felt the move might harm their competitiveness.
These same tyres will now be used in Germany.
Pirelli refused to say at the time that there was a safety issue, and the rules dictate that tyres can only be changed for other reasons during a season with unanimous approval of the teams.
But following the problems at Silverstone, which all agreed were unacceptable, the FIA has stepped in and forced through a change, which all teams now accept was necessary.
Pirelli issued a statement on Tuesday blaming the failures on teams not running the tyres according to its guidelines.
But Button said: "We followed all of Pirelli's guidelines - on both cars." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23190671But apparently Pirelli are making the internal belt out of Kevlar, not steel for this race. Who knows.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:I have a bit of sympathy for Pirelli too. The FIA have leaned on tyres too much to try and create a show, more overtaking and teams on different strategies. It's worked to an extent, but if you purposely make the supersofts too fragile these problems are going to occur. They weren't the 'supersoft' tyres. They had Medium compound and Hard Compound as the options for the race. For each race theere are 2 compunds, so for each circumstance there is a 'soft' and a 'hard', regardless of there the sit on the scale oustide of that particular event. The FIA have pushed Pirelli to make the difference between the as large as possible, to put drivers on different strategies to keep the race interesting. To theis end, at any particular track, the softer of the two compounds offered is wearing way too fast, and teams are pushing the envelope. All the tyre blow-outs were on the left tyres. Which makes sense with the number of high speed right hand turns around Silverstone. But the onus is on the team then for pushing the tyres too hard on 2 stop strategies instead of 3 stoppers. I thought that the German GP was at Hockenheim this year but given it's at Nurburgring it shouldn't be too much of an issue, but they're going to see the same issues at the Hungaroring next round.
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Vettel and Webber both jump Vettel off the start at Nurnburgring and overtake Hamilton in the first turn. Lovely.
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Massive cock-up in the RBR pits. Webber comes in, slow stop, Webber jumps out of the box before his read tyre is fastened, wheel comes flying off and takes out a Mercedes pit member. :shock:
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Hope the cameraman is OK, that would've hurt.
Pity for Mark because he got such a good start, for once!
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That was crazy. Lotus looking good
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toffeeAU wrote:Hope the cameraman is OK, that would've hurt.
Pity for Mark because he got such a good start, for once! His own fault for being too trigger happy. Can't get anything right this season :lol: And he's going to lose 10 places next round as well.
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