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anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5775685/89highschoolsoccer_final_takigawadaini_kumiyama/

Seems they are not worried about recording their national championship unlike the FFA

What do you think decentric a three month student exchange?
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rabid wrote:
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The only hole is between your ears Bozo's.

Yosuke Tanaka

http://www.sleague.com/Web/main.aspx?ID=1f7804f6-27d9-45f0-8320-eeb12dd76068

Tanaka was involved with Albirex Niigata and selected one of the ASA lads to attend Albirex trials earlier this year. Tanaka is not coaching or training Albirex this year but still maintains a high level of involment with the club.



He's a marketing manager for their club in Singapore FFS.:oops:


But clearly presented to the people of this forum as THE MANAGER of Albirex.

Classic fucking deception no matter which way you cut it. And only a week or so after portraying some unkown numpty (who the fark is Jim Petruzzi again?) as an EPL scout. :oops:

Take a look at this Basha's web site. Schoolboy crock of shit. Ladened with smoke, mirrrors and deception. Happy to discuss any/all bullshit claims found on this site with you, aussie.

These are the type of people (so called academies) that every parent should steer well clear of.

FWIW I have absolutely no probs with people who wish to create and operate private academies and charge for their services. However, I have real big issues with academies who are built on a foundation of deceipt, dishonesty and rampant bullshit.

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Aussiesrus wrote:
This kid that scored 8 goals also has played for ASA against NSWPL and NSW Super Youth League sides and ASA has won ALL 5 matches this year.


I call bullshit.

Unless, of course, you wish to provide club and age group of the opponents in PYL and SYL.

The difference between park football and PYL is approx 20 goals over 90.



Edited by judy free: 17/5/2011 03:46:29 PM
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Aussiesrus wrote:
Tanaka is a talented smart man that wears many hats.


Oh FFS. :oops:

Dill.
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Judy Free wrote:
Aussiesrus wrote:
Tanaka is a talented smart man that wears many hats.


Oh FFS. :oops:

Dill.


How many of your posts on this thread have been about the topic and how many have been about this bloke pushing his academy?
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krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.


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krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
Aussiesrus wrote:
Tanaka is a talented smart man that wears many hats.


Oh FFS. :oops:

Dill.


How many of your posts on this thread have been about the topic and how many have been about this bloke pushing his academy?


Apologies, krones.

I just don't like seeing people (frauds) using this forum as a means to leading people astray.

Vulnerable parents are at risk.




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Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.


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krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.



How does your son feel about living in Japan, studying and playing there?

If he is positive about it i dont see a problem.
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Judy Free wrote:
Aussiesrus wrote:
This kid that scored 8 goals also has played for ASA against NSWPL and NSW Super Youth League sides and ASA has won ALL 5 matches this year.


I call bullshit.

Unless, of course, you wish to provide club and age group of the opponents in PYL and SYL.

The difference between park football and PYL is approx 20 goals over 90.



Edited by judy free: 17/5/2011 03:46:29 PM


Ring Bankstown city Lions (NSWPL) and Granville Rage (NSWSL) and ask them if they have played against ASA this year in friendlies. I know ASA has because I was at the games you complete idiot.

Then you come back here once you have the facts and apologise to everyone on this forum for being a complete moron and drowning everyones posts with your rubbish.

krone3,

Check the links I posted that show clearly on the ASA website the proof. There is video proof of ASA players touring Asia. You asked the question and I gave you some facts. I'd be happy to to tell you more information which might be helpful. It is most difficult to have any sort of useful continuity of discussion with these pair of apes throwing shit like monkey's in the zoo.

I hope 4-4-2 bans them very soon.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 01:20:02 AM
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Aussiesrus wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
Aussiesrus wrote:
This kid that scored 8 goals also has played for ASA against NSWPL and NSW Super Youth League sides and ASA has won ALL 5 matches this year.


I call bullshit.

Unless, of course, you wish to provide club and age group of the opponents in PYL and SYL.

The difference between park football and PYL is approx 20 goals over 90.



Edited by judy free: 17/5/2011 03:46:29 PM


No more mr niceguy.

Judy Free (Bozo 1) In fact you even make clowns look intelligent.

No your confused. You are full of shit and a complete wanker.

Ring Bankstown city Lions (NSWPL) and Granville Rage (NSWSL) and ask them if they have played against ASA this year in friendlies. I know ASA has because I was at the games you complete idiot.

Then you come back here once you have the facts and apologise to everyone on this forum for being a complete fucktard and drowning everyones posts with your rubbish. The only fraud around here is yourself acting as if you have a remote clue about football which you dont.

krone3,

There is nothing bullshit about what i'm saying. The only bullshit around here is the pair of idiots that flame and trash every topic in the performance section because they are complete tossers and have no credibility whatsoever.

Check the links I posted that show clearly on the ASA website the proof. There is video proof of ASA players touring Asia. You asked the question and I gave you some facts. If these pair of complete tards didnt waste my time and your reading time having to defend ASA I'd be happy to to tell you more information which might be helpful. It is most difficult to have any sort of useful continuity of discussion with these pair of apes throwing shit like monkey's in the zoo.

I hope 4-4-2 bans them very soon.


Why would 442 ban me for exposing the truth and your lies?

You are the one that should be banned.

You claimed you were only a parent with no affiliation to ASA but it seems you have a direct business link.

You have been caught out spreading lies about tanaka.The guy is a marketing manager in singapore ffs not a coach in japan.

Jim Petruzzi?Okon and kewells teammate.:^o

You are the typical scumbag taking advantage of new dawn ignorance and naivety.

Getting a bit hot for you in here when you are calling for bans.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 04:59:46 PM

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 05:36:05 PM
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all ther best with decison you make krones.
No doubt the the self styled california highway patrol (chips and ponch) will offer views.

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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Appreciate your feedback, bogan bob from quakers farken hill.

You've been exposed over a dozen times as deceptive and dishonest.

You are, of course, free to continue spreadiing your filthy lies 'round here, and I have no doubt that some will continue to buy it. That's naivety for you.

But let me tel yer something for free;

I will continue to challenge and expose you for what you are, so better pull up a seat, mate. ;)
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krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.


OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


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Judy Free wrote:
User pays.

Coaching staff however get a free ride.

Not sure why any parent would want to pay for someone elses airfare so they can take their kid on what is ostensibly a holiday.

You'd get better value taking your kids to sea world, krones.

Edited by judy free: 15/5/2011 07:58:05 PM



Coaching/teaching staff get no free ride whatsoever.

Taking a group of kids to for an overseas trip is responsibility for 24 hours a day, week in and week out.

It is really hard, unrelenting work. It is the antithesis of overseas holiday travel.
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krones3 wrote:

Clearly with Edward’s decision to send his sons to England the present development system is not working.
I am not judging Edwards or the Asian bloke or the system but I have many choices and after a lot of thought I believe that an Australian would be better training in Japan than anywhere else.
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Is that Alistair Edwards, one of the senior FFA coaches?
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Decentric wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
User pays.

Coaching staff however get a free ride.

Not sure why any parent would want to pay for someone elses airfare so they can take their kid on what is ostensibly a holiday.

You'd get better value taking your kids to sea world, krones.

Edited by judy free: 15/5/2011 07:58:05 PM



Coaching/teaching staff get no free ride whatsoever.


Whatsoever?

Do they pay for thier airfares and accom out of their own pockets?
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krones3 wrote:
I was thinking more of a three month academy.

Recently an x socceroos of Asian descent sent his son to Japan and then on to Portugal.
Clearly with Edward’s decision to send his sons to England the present development system is not working.
I am not judging Edwards or the Asian bloke or the system but I have many choices and after a lot of thought I believe that an Australian would be better training in Japan than anywhere else.
When at 8 everyone I knew was concerned with results I chose fun, at ten they where concerned with strength and speed I chose skill, at 14 they are concerned with representation and selection I choose perfection, self discipline and harmony.

So my choices are 3 months in Brazil, England or Japan then I will go for Japan Mostly due to the Japanese sense of discipline and obsession with perfection.

Sometimes being selected at a young age is the worst thing that can happen to a kid and not being selected is a true blessing.Oh and juggling is for clowns 100%


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Edited by krones3: 16/5/2011 09:00:23 AM



A a presentation was delivered by our previous state FFA TD. He stated emphatically that only one out of 200 or 300 players go on to play in a league beyond the level of their local leagues.

In Tasmania that extrapolated to the premier league. Whether that equates to state league in other states, I'm not sure.

The point I'm making is that very few make a career out of football.

If they do, the remuneration is inadequate or modest. That is unless one plays in one of the eight or so big leagues in Europe.

Education is a far better investment.

I've known two former Young Socceroos who chose PE teaching over football.

I also know a former Young Socceroo captain who retired at 26 to make a better living. He was playing in the NSL. Although missing out on a Celtic transfer through visa issues, he concluded he wasn't of sufficient calibre to make a decent living out of football.

There is also the issue of what happens at the end of a career.
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Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Sometimes being selected at a young age is the worst thing that can happen to a kid and not being selected is a true blessing.


Really?

Please, give me three examples of successful strayan players that were never selected in junior/youth rep teams.

Don't go blowing your hard-earned on pipe dreams mate - the odds are MASSIVELY stacked against you.



Scott Chipperfield.

Michael Zullo?

Sasha Ognenovski ?


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Judy Free wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
User pays.

Coaching staff however get a free ride.

Not sure why any parent would want to pay for someone elses airfare so they can take their kid on what is ostensibly a holiday.

You'd get better value taking your kids to sea world, krones.

Edited by judy free: 15/5/2011 07:58:05 PM



Coaching/teaching staff get no free ride whatsoever.


Whatsoever?

Do they pay for thier airfares and accom out of their own pockets?



I've seen state coaches at the end of the trip.

The same as school teachers, they look absolutely exhausted.

Whether they pay for it or not, it would be very tiring work.
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Decentric wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
User pays.

Coaching staff however get a free ride.

Not sure why any parent would want to pay for someone elses airfare so they can take their kid on what is ostensibly a holiday.

You'd get better value taking your kids to sea world, krones.

Edited by judy free: 15/5/2011 07:58:05 PM



Coaching/teaching staff get no free ride whatsoever.


Whatsoever?

Do they pay for thier airfares and accom out of their own pockets?



Whether they pay for it or not, it would be very tiring work.

#-o

Hard work, this.

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krones3 wrote:
Back on topic
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5775685/89highschoolsoccer_final_takigawadaini_kumiyama/

Seems they are not worried about recording their national championship unlike the FFA

What do you think decentric a three month student exchange?



I started looking at it, but I couldn't fast forward it from the anthem to make an instant appraisal. I'll revisit it.

In terms of a three month exchange one will benefit, because international travel is an educational experience, regardless of the football.

The only problem is that a lot of kids in this country are deluded from a young age they have a career in professional football with all the attention given to players in rep sides, etc.

Only about one out of 200 to 300 will play at a higher level at senior level.

Because of this, for many players if they have all the attention, travel and opportunities when they are young, playing senior football can seem a bit of an anti-climax. I'm sure many of these players give the game away prematurely.

According to my FFA sources the Japanese football model is a small part of our FFA curriculum , along with the major part of it being KNVB. There is also some influence of Clairefontaine, which apparently is the biggest of eleven French football academies.

So to sum up, the experience will probably be beneficial for your child in terms of personal development, but long term the child may have little to look forward to as a senior player.

What would the cost be?

Other than that, I hope it works out, Krones.

Edited by Decentric: 17/5/2011 09:11:01 PM
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Decentric wrote:
So to sum up, the experience will probably be beneficial for your child in terms of personal development, but long term the child may have little to look forward to as a senior player.


I trust that this sage advice would also apply to anyone considering spending money on one of those dodgy USA so-called scholarships, yeah?
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Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.


OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


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Decentric wrote:
krones3 wrote:

Clearly with Edward’s decision to send his sons to England the present development system is not working.
I am not judging Edwards or the Asian bloke or the system but I have many choices and after a lot of thought I believe that an Australian would be better training in Japan than anywhere else.
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Is that Alistair Edwards, one of the senior FFA coaches?

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krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
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anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.


OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


When they feel its the right time



from my experience by 16/17 reality hits if the kid is good enough or not.

Its at this age that the cream rises and potential is evident as to a players true potential of what level is achievable.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:44:27 PM

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:46:27 PM
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Decentric wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Back on topic
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5775685/89highschoolsoccer_final_takigawadaini_kumiyama/

Seems they are not worried about recording their national championship unlike the FFA

What do you think decentric a three month student exchange?



I started looking at it, but I couldn't fast forward it from the anthem to make an instant appraisal. I'll revisit it.

In terms of a three month exchange one will benefit, because international travel is an educational experience, regardless of the football.

The only problem is that a lot of kids in this country are deluded from a young age they have a career in professional football with all the attention given to players in rep sides, etc.

Only about one out of 200 to 300 will play at a higher level at senior level.

Because of this, for many players if they have all the attention, travel and opportunities when they are young, playing senior football can seem a bit of an anti-climax. I'm sure many of these players give the game away prematurely.

According to my FFA sources the Japanese football model is a small part of our FFA curriculum , along with the major part of it being KNVB. There is also some influence of Clairefontaine, which apparently is the biggest of eleven French football academies.

So to sum up, the experience will probably be beneficial for your child in terms of personal development, but long term the child may have little to look forward to as a senior player.

What would the cost be?

Other than that, I hope it works out, Krones.

Edited by Decentric: 17/5/2011 09:11:01 PM


The idea is not set in stone.
Not sure about tassie but up here kids are being offered all sorts of so called football trips.
As my children have already traveled most of the world if I am going to pay for a football trip I would like it to be really about football.



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rabid wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.


OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


When they feel its the right time



from my experience by 16/17 reality hits if the kid is good enough or not.

Its at this age that the cream rises and potential is evident as to a players true potential as to what level is achievable.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:44:27 PM

maybe yes maybe no.
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krones3 wrote:
rabid wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
krones3 wrote:
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.


What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.



As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.


OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


When they feel its the right time



from my experience by 16/17 reality hits if the kid is good enough or not.

Its at this age that the cream rises and potential is evident as to a players true potential as to what level is achievable.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:44:27 PM

maybe yes maybe no.


suffice to say that would be the norm.

Always exceptions to the rule but the numbers would clearly indicate otherwise and odds stacked against it happening.

Dont forget that all over the world, future pro players are playing regular senior football generally by the time they are 18 unlike in this country where we have gone back in time and hal franchises see more worth in signing up old washed up hacks from overseas rather than giving young talent a go.
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By age 14/15 a kid has to be doing something special (eg standout player in top tier comp) to have any chance of progression to pro football.

Look, nothing wrong if people wish to throw money at their averagely talented teenage kid's sockah education - one day it could mean the difference between playing AA7's and AA6's.
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