Anyone ever been on one,run one or is planning to run one?

In Tassie and Victoria, we are another fours hours away from Asia than you.

It seems a long way and considerable expense for the age group.

When i played for the Australian Football 'Skool' Academy 2 years ago, at the end of the academy season (During Summer) the best players from each age group were picked and sent on tours to Asia and (Singapore, Japan, Malaysia) and so forth.

User pays.

Coaching staff however get a free ride.

Not sure why any parent would want to pay for someone elses airfare so they can take their kid on what is ostensibly a holiday.

You'd get better value taking your kids to sea world, krones.

Edited by judy free: 15/5/2011 07:58:05 PM

The Australasian Soccer Academy tour Japan and Asia yearly. This year the Albirex Niigata coach came to visit the academy to scout players and one went to trial for them.

Albirex have both J-League and S-League sides.

Although not sure if this years tour is on due to the Japanese power plant meltdown.

http://www.australasiansocceracademy.com.au/soccer/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=114%3Aalbirex-nigata-visits-academy-coach-in-sydney&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=66&lang=en

Gallery photo's here

http://www.australasiansocceracademy.com.au/soccer/index.php?option=com_oziogallery&Itemid=54&lang=en

ASA players that have toured Japan and Asia have been signed by Asian teams or have benefitted greatly from the tours and experience and gone on to play high levels here in Australia as well.


If you get the opportunity to go on an asian tour do so as the experience will make you a much better player.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 03:18:16 AM

Lol @ skippyrus.

I note that your other shameful thread re that two bob akadumy has been sunk?

Too funny.

Clicked on your link and noted:

"in other news Basha and Tanaka had successful meeting with SFC at football stadium"

Oh really? :lol:

I will pass this on to SFC's Scotty B for perusal.

Grubs.

Edited by judy free: 16/5/2011 05:28:39 AM

As rampant bullshit goes you are in a league of your own. :lol:

Tanaka?

Please tell the good people of this forum exactly where this bloke supposedly coaches.

Haven't got you quite worked out yet old mate - but my guess is that you're either;

a) basha himself
b) a grossly dumbshit parent

But everytime you open your bucket mouth you provide another clue. :cool:

I was thinking more of a three month academy.

Recently an x socceroos of Asian descent sent his son to Japan and then on to Portugal.
Clearly with Edward’s decision to send his sons to England the present development system is not working.
I am not judging Edwards or the Asian bloke or the system but I have many choices and after a lot of thought I believe that an Australian would be better training in Japan than anywhere else.
When at 8 everyone I knew was concerned with results I chose fun, at ten they where concerned with strength and speed I chose skill, at 14 they are concerned with representation and selection I choose perfection, self discipline and harmony.

So my choices are 3 months in Brazil, England or Japan then I will go for Japan Mostly due to the Japanese sense of discipline and obsession with perfection.

Sometimes being selected at a young age is the worst thing that can happen to a kid and not being selected is a true blessing.Oh and juggling is for clowns 100%


\:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/

Edited by krones3: 16/5/2011 09:00:23 AM

Really?

Please, give me three examples of successful strayan players that were never selected in junior/youth rep teams.

Don't go blowing your hard-earned on pipe dreams mate - the odds are MASSIVELY stacked against you.

I was thinking of higher than local or state rep.
and I can not with out research, but I have seen a few that were selected that are now disastrous.
Both in football and other areas



Edited by krones3: 16/5/2011 09:58:46 AM

Edited by krones3: 16/5/2011 09:59:40 AM

Of course.

Not every kid selected will go on to make it at pro level - only a fraction of one percent ever do.

If a kid hasn't been noticed and selected for local rep teams by the age of 14 then the odds of him ever making it as a pro blows out by a few thousand more points.

I'll tell you what shits me to tears, krones. Parents that place significantly more importance on their son's sockah career than edukayshun. I've seen this a million times over - all quite disturbing.

Edited by judy free: 16/5/2011 10:08:33 AM

I agree I too have seen this many times.
I fortunately am blessed with children who find education and school work very easy.
My under 10s also find their school work relatively easy (most are from well educated parents.)
What shits me to tears is that football is full of paul lontons men who try to crush the dreams of children.
In the past in the future and at present I am seeing good players destroyed by well meaning but misguided adults, unfortunately you can only stand back and watch if it is not your child.
Luckily there are enough good people in football that the lontons of football almost always fail.

http://www.aussiesrus.com.au/

This is the business that is advertised on the ASA home page.

They all get found out sooner or later.

:roll:

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 01:01:25 AM

Bullshit.

ASA are a member of your directory.

Says it quite clearly at the bottom of ASA's home page.

So your earlier claim that you are only a father of a player is a lie?

you fit right in with this mob.

Edited by rabid: 16/5/2011 11:43:23 AM

You support an org that promotes itself via blatant lying?

Again, will you please tell the good people of 442 exactly which team Tanaka coaches in Asia?

If you won't, I will.

What odds can i get that aussiesrus comes in with a new username?

:roll:

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 01:01:51 AM

6/4 on.

There was a time when I gracefully gave him the benefit of the doubt (he could have been just another over naive numpty parent) but no more. He's on the "payroll" and proven (many times over) to be an A grade dirty lying bottom feeder.

This forum deserves better than to have grubs like "aussie" using it as a vehicle to promote extreme sockah dodginess.

Bwahahahahahahaha.

:lol:

23 years old?

:lol: :lol:

Hilarious.

Edited by judy free: 16/5/2011 01:08:04 PM

So he is not the coach as claimed on the website. more lies exposed.

Selected a player that had to pay his own airfare for the trial?

You going to get this thread deleted after exposing your lies just like the last one?

Rabid, click on the link provided by aussie.

His coach (who's apparently now having a year or two off) is 23 years old.

Not too sure if we'll be seeing aussie here again anytime soon.

:roll:

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 01:03:14 AM

Pretty big hole you have dug for yourself here.

Lets see.

You originally claimed you were just a parent yet now it has been established you have a direct business link to the academy.:^o

The credentials of individuals associated with the academy has been shot to pieces...jimmy who?

let us do some more digging as to your claim of a direct link to sydney fc.My monies on more lies.

:roll:

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 01:03:32 AM

ALBIREX NIGATA VISITS ACADEMY COACH IN SYDNEY

Albirex Nigata's Manager Tanaka has visited Tony basha in Sydney. Tanaka said he was very happy with the meeting and was looking forward to working together in the future.
Basha told ASA website, " We are building a strong relationship with Albirex Nigata and also Albirex's Soccer College".
Basha confirmed the Academy will be touring Japan in 2011.Tanaka has invited the Academy to play games in Japan against their best squads.Albirex Manager Tanaka is very serious about the relationship, The club has offered free accomodation to ASA.

Tanaka said he was very impressed with ASA and wants Albirex scouts to have a close look at academy players.

In other news Tanaka and Basha had a succesful meeting with Sydney Fc at the football stadium.


http://australasiansocceracademy.com.au/soccer/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=114%3Aalbirex-nigata-visits-academy-coach-in-sydney&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=66&lang=en

Anything else you bozo's want to know ?

Edited by Aussiesrus: 16/5/2011 04:55:52 PM

I watched all 9 mins 50 secs of this piss funny video - where was the Jap coach?

Anyway, that's besides the point.

And what the fark is this?

http://www.sleague.com/Web/main.aspx?ID=1f7804f6-27d9-45f0-8320-eeb12dd76068

Is this back office dude the coach you were talking about?

If so, why did you originally provide a link to a 23 year old player?

Your story is a bit all over the shop, mate. :lol:

As for the kid who scored eight goals in a trial game and "every big club is chasing his signature"..........I just realised these are kids that are playing bog standard district hacker league i.e. about six rungs below elite youth football. FMD. #-o


Edited by judy free: 16/5/2011 05:27:45 PM

Your forgetting the overall topic discussion and it's relevance. Open your eyes and look at the bigger picture.

The OP asked if there were any academies that tour Asia & Japan etc. ASA have done this yearly. Having said that I am still unsure if the tsunami and power plant meltdown will affect if Japan is included in the tour this year or not.

Regardless of Japan tours more than likely will still go ahead to Malaysia, Singapore etc.

So with respect to the OPS question I have provided an answer.

As for your assumptions that this kid plays bog standard hacker district league. I have already informed you (quite a few times) that ASA is open to all players of any level and gender that want to improve their skills and development, Thats what makes ASA so great. Kids of ALL levels can train with higher level players, combine this with excellent quality training and coaching will improve players. This kid that scored 8 goals also has played for ASA against NSWPL and NSW Super Youth League sides and ASA has won ALL 5 matches this year. When players develope and improve correctly together the results will come.

ASA gives players the ability to succeed at higher level if the player is dedicated unlike other academies that ONLY take players that already have the skills. ASA works with all players and gives them from grassroots upwards the skills they need to succeed in the future.

Judy Free, Surely your bright enough to get the bigger picture by now? Your spending a lot of time and effort dissing something which is very positive for football in this country. If your under some delusion what your posting on these forums benefits football then please go support AFL and post on their forums as you would benefit football more by doing so.

He's a marketing manager for their club in Singapore FFS.:oops:

He also chose an ASA player to trial with Albirex for their J-League team. This responsibility doesnt come without football knowledge. It is common for ex-players to take up positions within a club after retirement. Thats why players should continue their education prior to and after a football career. In other words what do players do when at around 35 their playing days are gone? They still have around 50 years to earn an income.

Tanaka is a talented smart man that wears many hats. Has the knowledge to spot talented players and works with players at Albirex.

For the record Albirex have both S-League and J-league teams.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 17/5/2011 02:30:29 PM

Back on topic
anyone care to give an opinion on this standard and game it is Japan national high school final.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5775685/89highschoolsoccer_final_takigawadaini_kumiyama/

Seems they are not worried about recording their national championship unlike the FFA

What do you think decentric a three month student exchange?

But clearly presented to the people of this forum as THE MANAGER of Albirex.

Classic fucking deception no matter which way you cut it. And only a week or so after portraying some unkown numpty (who the fark is Jim Petruzzi again?) as an EPL scout. :oops:

Take a look at this Basha's web site. Schoolboy crock of shit. Ladened with smoke, mirrrors and deception. Happy to discuss any/all bullshit claims found on this site with you, aussie.

These are the type of people (so called academies) that every parent should steer well clear of.

FWIW I have absolutely no probs with people who wish to create and operate private academies and charge for their services. However, I have real big issues with academies who are built on a foundation of deceipt, dishonesty and rampant bullshit.

I call bullshit.

Unless, of course, you wish to provide club and age group of the opponents in PYL and SYL.

The difference between park football and PYL is approx 20 goals over 90.



Edited by judy free: 17/5/2011 03:46:29 PM

Oh FFS. :oops:

Dill.

How many of your posts on this thread have been about the topic and how many have been about this bloke pushing his academy?

What age are the players?

I'm scratching my head wondering what you'd be expecting to get out of a 3 month student exchange. Please tell.

Apologies, krones.

I just don't like seeing people (frauds) using this forum as a means to leading people astray.

Vulnerable parents are at risk.

As I have mentioned before in regional Australia opportunities to go and train play in other areas are great.
Even bullshit academies.
Our season is 15 games long thanks to (YASI) 18 if there is no cyclone.
All the players know each other really really well (in U16s there are 6 teams).
My son is not doing as well as he should in Japanese.
So the opportunity to play a n extra season in Japan as a student exchange appeals to me.
I can see no negative.

How does your son feel about living in Japan, studying and playing there?

If he is positive about it i dont see a problem.

Ring Bankstown city Lions (NSWPL) and Granville Rage (NSWSL) and ask them if they have played against ASA this year in friendlies. I know ASA has because I was at the games you complete idiot.

Then you come back here once you have the facts and apologise to everyone on this forum for being a complete moron and drowning everyones posts with your rubbish.

krone3,

Check the links I posted that show clearly on the ASA website the proof. There is video proof of ASA players touring Asia. You asked the question and I gave you some facts. I'd be happy to to tell you more information which might be helpful. It is most difficult to have any sort of useful continuity of discussion with these pair of apes throwing shit like monkey's in the zoo.

I hope 4-4-2 bans them very soon.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 18/5/2011 01:20:02 AM

Why would 442 ban me for exposing the truth and your lies?

You are the one that should be banned.

You claimed you were only a parent with no affiliation to ASA but it seems you have a direct business link.

You have been caught out spreading lies about tanaka.The guy is a marketing manager in singapore ffs not a coach in japan.

Jim Petruzzi?Okon and kewells teammate.:^o

You are the typical scumbag taking advantage of new dawn ignorance and naivety.

Getting a bit hot for you in here when you are calling for bans.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 04:59:46 PM

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 05:36:05 PM

all ther best with decison you make krones.
No doubt the the self styled california highway patrol (chips and ponch) will offer views.

Appreciate your feedback, bogan bob from quakers farken hill.

You've been exposed over a dozen times as deceptive and dishonest.

You are, of course, free to continue spreadiing your filthy lies 'round here, and I have no doubt that some will continue to buy it. That's naivety for you.

But let me tel yer something for free;

I will continue to challenge and expose you for what you are, so better pull up a seat, mate. ;)

OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


[/quote]

Coaching/teaching staff get no free ride whatsoever.

Taking a group of kids to for an overseas trip is responsibility for 24 hours a day, week in and week out.

It is really hard, unrelenting work. It is the antithesis of overseas holiday travel.

Is that Alistair Edwards, one of the senior FFA coaches?

Whatsoever?

Do they pay for thier airfares and accom out of their own pockets?

A a presentation was delivered by our previous state FFA TD. He stated emphatically that only one out of 200 or 300 players go on to play in a league beyond the level of their local leagues.

In Tasmania that extrapolated to the premier league. Whether that equates to state league in other states, I'm not sure.

The point I'm making is that very few make a career out of football.

If they do, the remuneration is inadequate or modest. That is unless one plays in one of the eight or so big leagues in Europe.

Education is a far better investment.

I've known two former Young Socceroos who chose PE teaching over football.

I also know a former Young Socceroo captain who retired at 26 to make a better living. He was playing in the NSL. Although missing out on a Celtic transfer through visa issues, he concluded he wasn't of sufficient calibre to make a decent living out of football.

There is also the issue of what happens at the end of a career.

Scott Chipperfield.

Michael Zullo?

Sasha Ognenovski ?

I've seen state coaches at the end of the trip.

The same as school teachers, they look absolutely exhausted.

Whether they pay for it or not, it would be very tiring work.

#-o

Hard work, this.

I started looking at it, but I couldn't fast forward it from the anthem to make an instant appraisal. I'll revisit it.

In terms of a three month exchange one will benefit, because international travel is an educational experience, regardless of the football.

The only problem is that a lot of kids in this country are deluded from a young age they have a career in professional football with all the attention given to players in rep sides, etc.

Only about one out of 200 to 300 will play at a higher level at senior level.

Because of this, for many players if they have all the attention, travel and opportunities when they are young, playing senior football can seem a bit of an anti-climax. I'm sure many of these players give the game away prematurely.

According to my FFA sources the Japanese football model is a small part of our FFA curriculum , along with the major part of it being KNVB. There is also some influence of Clairefontaine, which apparently is the biggest of eleven French football academies.

So to sum up, the experience will probably be beneficial for your child in terms of personal development, but long term the child may have little to look forward to as a senior player.

What would the cost be?

Other than that, I hope it works out, Krones.

Edited by Decentric: 17/5/2011 09:11:01 PM

I trust that this sage advice would also apply to anyone considering spending money on one of those dodgy USA so-called scholarships, yeah?

[/quote]
When they feel its the right time

yes

from my experience by 16/17 reality hits if the kid is good enough or not.

Its at this age that the cream rises and potential is evident as to a players true potential of what level is achievable.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:44:27 PM

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:46:27 PM

The idea is not set in stone.
Not sure about tassie but up here kids are being offered all sorts of so called football trips.
As my children have already traveled most of the world if I am going to pay for a football trip I would like it to be really about football.

maybe yes maybe no.

suffice to say that would be the norm.

Always exceptions to the rule but the numbers would clearly indicate otherwise and odds stacked against it happening.

Dont forget that all over the world, future pro players are playing regular senior football generally by the time they are 18 unlike in this country where we have gone back in time and hal franchises see more worth in signing up old washed up hacks from overseas rather than giving young talent a go.

By age 14/15 a kid has to be doing something special (eg standout player in top tier comp) to have any chance of progression to pro football.

Look, nothing wrong if people wish to throw money at their averagely talented teenage kid's sockah education - one day it could mean the difference between playing AA7's and AA6's.

There are different ways to evaluate it.

1. Educational benefit from coursework at uni.
2. Football experience.
3. Personal growth development can also be educational in a maturational sense.
4. Fostering independence.

1. The education is most disappointing in the USA. First year uni is a waste of time in USA. Our first year is like their second year.

Paradoxically, a mate, a scientist, says that he knows of two cases where Australian PHDs have been deemed inadequate by US institutions. Unfortunately, my relative appears to have been labelled as a sports scholar with the implication of lacking cerebral qualities. Ironically, journalism, supposedly a major, clashes with soccer. They can't both be taken as subjects at the institution simultaneously.
I don't think good American unis offer sports scholarships.

The relative and one of the fellow Australian players, are considered geniuses in their English class. Americans are so ethnocentric, through blissful ignorance, everything has to be decoded into Americanisms. The relative received high enough marks to qualify for Cornell, one of their Ivy League unis, globally a much higher ranking than any Australian uni.
Luckily, the relative and her five Australian teammates are walking distance from a 55 minutes ferry ride to Vancouver Island, in Canada. Victoria, the capital, is very trendy and interesting.

2. Football experience.
Trains four hours a day. I think It is stupid. 90 minutes weight training per day, 5 days per week. Coaches, have no idea of Raymond Verheijen's periodiasation.
I've checked with an NTC coach, one current senior international coach, one former international senior coach and a former international player. All concur that the four hours is excessive.
There are different ideas about the value of weight training, but the consensus is the amount is excessive. Soccer is like rugby in USA. Very physical!!!

3. This has been extremely beneficial. There has been clarification about future in terms of being a professional athlete (lacks intellectial rigour) compared to pursuing a profession in Australia. Appreciates more things about home and home state. The US teammates seem very nice and welcoming.

4. This has also been particularly beneficial. Relative has thrived.


As far as Krones' child is concerned:

3. and 4. would probably be of great benefit.

1. May be useful too. The Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean and Singaporean kids are very good at maths/science.

2. Will depend on the quality of the football programme.

We were going to work in Japan, but opted for more money in the middle-east.

Edited by Decentric: 18/5/2011 12:01:57 AM

Well I did my best to warn you about 1 & 2, decentric.

And 3 & 4 could have been more easily attained locally without compromising educational aspects.

Edited by judy free: 18/5/2011 09:01:31 AM

I think it would be fair to question the sexual orientation of the person in question.

Was it too prohibitive and discriminatory in little old tassie to display ones sexual orientation hence the need to move overseas?

PS. I have nothing against lesbians.

I think it would be fair to question the sexual orientation of the person in question as being a reason for the move overseas.

Was it too prohibitive and discriminatory in little old tassie to display ones sexual orientation hence the need to move overseas?

PS. I have nothing against lesbians.

Where did this come from?

just putting it out there as i know someone who this happened to.

The USA college football system is very much a lesbo magnet for up and coming sportswomen.

I see. So you know some'one' whom this happened to.

It's so obvious i should have tripped over it.

Edited by skeptic: 18/5/2011 01:28:01 PM

Take into consideration decentics knowledge of the academic world and only now claiming the USA education is inferior to australia's.

Take into consideration decentic's knowledge of worlds best practice(KNVB)in football and now his claim that the USA's football system is inferior.

More to this than meets the eye. Dont you think?

And having considered the above suggestions I've come to the conclusion I think it would be fair to question the sexual orientation of the person in question. How one could possibly reach a different conclusion is beyond my comprehension.

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=58618

he's the son of ex socceroo alan davidson.

What's your point?

Just pointing out his experiences in Japan