@ Jimo8

The coaching team pre-season were adamant that the back 4 needed no new signings; Nigro was only signed as cover for O’Toole and a precaution against injury. So Roar started with a likely:

Hingert, DeVere, Avram, O’Toole

With backups in:

Ingham, Pepper, Bowles, Nigro.

In theory a more than serviceable back 8 plus Reardon waiting in the wings.

How did it all go wrong?

Hingert has been absolutely Shite, how did that happen?

DeVere? WTF happened there?

Neither Bowles or Pepper have been great although i’ll Still argue both are serviceable backups.

O’Toole is good going forwards not been so good defensively.

The screening by the DMs has been poor, that is TKs job and he’s been crap.

And then you have the defensive structures which have been poor and were in past seasons.

There’s no quick fix for Davies sadly.

I agree our backs are poor but not enough blame has fallen on our midfield and forwards . If mids are defending appropriately defence should not be that hard . We have two screeners who are slow and old . Lopez and TK ....I would have put Mckay and TK as screeners with Lopez further forward. He is not a no 6 and never has been so I don't understand why he has been played there .We are beaten in the midfield every week. We also have a striker who does not press at all  . Defence should start in the forwards.

Someone said earlier on it was nice to see Davies has a “Plan B”, looking at where this team is now it’s doublful there was ever a plan with JA. Basically sign seasoned players and let them sort it out seems to be the closest to a plan sadly.

Marco with an article quoting Pourre today but it’s behind a paywall. Biggest takeaway:

“The thoroughness of the procedure suggests former Welsh under 21 international Davies ¬ Aloisi’s former assistant who has led the Roar to just one point from four matches since being named interim boss ¬ will be in charge for some time yet”

So Davies in charge for a while plus two other relevant points, Holman is done and unlikely to play again and secondly they don’t wait for the new coach to sign new players.

I mentioned this on the Roar supporters FB page and was told it is wrong and that "Transfer Market" (whatever that is ) says so ...quote below :
"that is well off the mark, transfermarket has us at 9 for our spend and value and numerous people who are in the know within the club have also said that is not correct on twitter, basically we have spent the cap floor the last 2 seasons"
I have also been told by someone who knows a staffer that the staffer mentioned that the club is in free fall and some important coaches want out .
It is very confusing hearing so many "insiders" giving different accounts . I understand that different staffers may have different allegiances and pro JA people would see things negatively now but something doesn't sound right .

As a lot of posters have pointed out, the midfield of Lopez, MM and TK does not work.  Caletti/Mauk have to start with a sub around the 60 minute mark.  Of the three TK has to go, he does not offer anything that you can't get with Lopez, MM and Mauk/Calleti.  Also, I think you will find that this midfield (Lopez,MM, Calleti/Mauk) with Devere and Papa as CB will improve the defense of the team.

Read in a couple posts 2 or 3 pages back that nothing has changed on the pitch?

Can't agree  as what I see is Roar playing a more controlled game, improved tactically and better passing without hoofing crosses.

To me we look to have broken the shambles of the JA era and playing closer towards the Roar way.

This season is gone but at least we're on the right track.

@ miron Mercedes

Roar do NOT spend the cap floor, I’ve actually seen their accounts (the RSF is granted an annual review of them) and the spend is well over the 100% cap because they utilise the various grants eg Mckays wage is discounted 50%, I’m guessing Hingert and others are too ... mind you, I’m not sure retaining a player because they get a discount wage on the cap has been a good policy as it’s not working.

If you can post the link to the FB page i’ll pass it on to the club who might want to address it directly, if it’s the FB group page I’m thinking if there’s a lot of biters there who aren’t necessarily in it to support Roar.

The cap floor is 90% of the cap, so a saving of $300k, why would the club spend 90% to save that and then hire to marquees at over a million dollars? It’s laughable.

There is a link to a video of a David Pourre fan forum here:

https://m.facebook.com/roarsupporters/?tsid=0.9553178815845708&source=result

David gives the exact numbers spent (not in as much detail as I would have liked mind you) which correlate with the ITR’s that we saw a few days earlier.

@paulc

Part of me is wanting to smash DD for not making enough improvements BUT although it feels like he’s been in charge for a month because he’s had 4 games he’s barely had them two weeks.

I agree the style has improved, although I felt the city game regressed quite a bit hence plenty of frustration.

Victory tomorrow will be interesting then he’s got 4 days to prepare for his most winable game yet vs Mariners, but there’s plenty of neutrals backing mariners right now so let’s see.

I think the wins or losses are less important than change in attitude, style and structure from a footballing sense and vision from a club point of view.

Lots of work to do with player clean-out and new recruitments and acquiring a new coach that aligns with the clubs vision for consistent and long term progression that takes us to the top again where we rightfully belong as a club.

Overall I'm seeing the collective small positives (maybe through rose coloured glasses).

I am hoping that the City game was just Davies:
1. Resting Calletti, after his first two games back
2. Simply confirming once and for all that TK, MM and Lopez are not a functional combination.
I must admit I still have concerns about a 3 man midfield that includes McKay and Calletti getting physically bossed. I admit that Matty has played well in defensive number 10 role... but is being good defensively really enough from a 10?
If McKay starts then I'd like to see a 4 man midfield of Calletti, McKay, Lopez and Mauk with Eric and Taggart up front (with Eric switching between right and left). Mauk needs to be playing AM as no one else is creative enough.

Brisbane Roar Supporters Club - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Brisbaneroarsupporters/

Thanks Miron, I flicked the link on to the club - only they can answer such statements with any authority but seriously, some of the statements people make on these forums 😂

Club website message:


Dear members and in particular patrons of the dedicated active supporter bays 331, 332, 333.

For an extended period, Brisbane Roar FC (the Club) has been very happy to observe and support the many growing supporter groups that represent many of our members and fans interests.

These supporter groups have been independently formed with clear and concise objectives and some form of constitution or committee guiding their actions. Their common purpose, supporting Brisbane Roar FC.

BRFC has supported all of these groups in a variety of ways, actively and upon request, and we will continue to do so.

As Queensland's only Hyundai A-League, Westfield W-League and National Youth League representative, we continually have to challenge those out-of-state parties, both across the league and in numerous different roles, as we are a proud and loyal club always striving to improve and to be the very best we can be.

We’re a different club from the rest, and history has shown BRFC has always overcome challenges when faced, never backed away from a cause we believe in and we will continue to fight battles on and off the pitch in the interests of our sponsors, members and supporters.

The Club has selfless people, both employees and volunteers, behind the scenes who work tirelessly because we all love what we do and we appreciate being part of the professional sporting and entertainment environment.

Our passion is and always will be Brisbane Roar Football Club.

Over 14 years, there’s little doubt our members and supporters are one of, if not the best supporter groups in the league.

This is evident at away games, home games, when performances are good and not so good and when scheduling isn’t desirable. This strong support is active at all BRFC matches no matter if it is our Hyundai A-League, Westfield W-League or Young Roar teams in action.

Recent events in The Den area at Suncorp Stadium highlight that support can come with difficulties.

BRFC has been advised that The Den Steering Committee will no longer facilitate "Active Support" for Tuesday’s game against Melbourne Victory, or any match in the future unless specific demands are met.

The background to this is perhaps long and varied. However, there was an incident at the recent home game against Perth Glory that has created friction between the Club and The Den Steering Committee.

Without going into too much detail, the incident involved several offensive chants culminating in a final chant of 'F*** the FFA'.

When a BRFC staff member approached The Den leadership team on duty that day, it was met with a tidal wave of abuse and swearing by other members of The Den.

This action was unacceptable and caused great distress, however, The Den Steering Committee has accused BRFC of “censoring” the chants they use because one of our staff members pointed out that 'F***' is offensive.

As a consequence, The Den has issued ultimatums and are refusing to provide "Active Support" until they are met.

In regards to the question of censorship; whether a chant is offensive or not is not a Club matter, it is a matter for the Queensland Police Service (QPS) and the laws of this State.

Should The Den Steering Committee wish to use colourful language, they need to clear this with the QPS and not BRFC. The Club cannot provide immunity from Queensland law.

Secondly, The Den area is an essential section of Suncorp Stadium on match day, but it is just one area. Offensive chanting can, and was, heard in different parts of the stadium.

The Den Steering Committee owe an explanation as to why offensive and illegal chanting should be tolerated by other patrons, particularly those with children.

It’s unclear to the Club that a steering group who state they represent the interests of all members in the Active Support Bay genuinely represent their interests.

BRFC has always provided opportunities and supported requests from various Club active supporter groups, including The Den, with a hope that unity of The Den would be resurrected to days gone by.

It’s important also to understand, when the Club is directed by authorities (QPS, Suncorp Stadium Security) to intervene in potential situations that could escalate, BRFC intervenes to protect the interests of its members and fans and to prevent authorities from acting.

When police and security act, control is then removed from the Club. Their intervention can result in removal of patrons from the stadium or more serious ramifications depending on the situation (e.g. fines, bans).

Today, BRFC has informed the people involved in The Den Steering Committee representing The Den that we have removed our support of them as leaders of The Den.

As such, BRFC has engaged with other supporter groups and individuals who have actively approached the Club and have expressed an interest in rebuilding The Den.

BRFC will leave it with these groups and people to commence a process to rebuild The Den.

Brisbane Roar Football Club remains committed to working with active support and The Den and will provide appropriate assistance when requested.

Warm Regards

Brisbane Roar Football Club

So basically the den leaders are unhappy.

I can’t keep up. Been ill today as well so way behind on gossip lol.

Make it stop!!!!!!

Pathetic

See this is why either: the league needs relegation; or Brisbane needs a second club.

Bakries clearly don't care. Without anything or anyone to challenge the Roar to do better all round, I believe your slide into the Sunshine State Mariners will continue for a very long time.

But at least the club still has its sights on ‘the least rude supporters’ award.

Just need players to stop being paid to add the cherry on top. 

Total mess now. Feel sorry for Davies given this turf pile from aloisi and the schedule doesn't help to set things up. However I still believe he's not ready for the role. I would be extreme disappointed to see him get the gig.

But no new team or 2nd devision not sure if we going to see any changes. close to rock bottom now.

But I garenteed the support will be there from the media for aloisi who literally had the run of the place for the last three years and we close to being the worse we ever have been. 

Not many players I would keep. We wonder why the roos are struggling when one of our top 5 strikers is Taggart that can't hit a barn door. That is one of the major reasons. It's so bad across the park. 

With a State full of bogans, that would be an accomplishment...Just kidding.

You got to laugh, otherwise it's all pretty dire...

I love how the Bakries are getting blamed, it’s soooo Australian - “lets blame the foreigners”

The ONLY person to blame is true blue Aussie John Aloisi.

This is the team he built. And it’s shite.

100% agree. We are rubbish on the pitch aloisi bearly had to deal with the worse of the bakeries around the Ange and Mulvey era where we were winning and playing well. I was so sick of his lack of facilities complaint. We won back to back when we got nearly kicked out of Ballymore.

The performance, recruitment and youth development was aloisi. He basically buried Brisbane to the ground we are even worse than the miron period where at least we where finding players like Kruse, Zullo, oar and many other potential players. 

Does anyone know if any of the lads in the NYL are worth blooding in the second half of the season? Was watching the game and noticed that beyond Wenzel-Halls and Reardon no other youth players have debuted for the Roar this season. Would have to think that with the season essentially a write off, could be a good opportunity to get some experience into young players the club think have a future there? Obviously Caletti, D’Agostino, Ingham, O’Toole played and have been recently but a lot of them are nearing 20+ (I think) and coming off contracts...

Dire is the word I felt most walking out of the stadium tonight.

Not much more to say other than onwards with rebuilding.

Two more games with only 5 days break between but still our best chances for points. I am confident that we will field the right number of players for both games.

Let's swap Taggart for Fornarolli. Do it!!

It can't be worse. We've been waiting for Taggart to come good but tonight, he was bloody ordinary. Daggs and DWH were better.

Lopez showed something in parts. Otoole forgot to mark Toivonen when we were all screaming at him to do so.

Caletti and Eric decent. Even Ingham looked
Down on confidence from a week or two ago.

Nigro ?? Can't make my mind up. Bowles ordinary. Devere ok.

Why do we have 15/20 minutes and look decent then capitulate again. Defence???

@Jimo8

OToole did not stand much of a chance with Toivenen's height and skill - and a pass that went to his head cleanly.
Had OToole jumped he probably would have ended up fouling, conceding a pen and getting a red the way we have been travelling.

Ingham looked exactly as you say - lacking the confidence he had a couple of weeks ago. He did not seem to want to take a run down the wing several times even when there was no opponent down the line to stop him.

Well you're not a top 6 rival and probably won't be for quite some time.