The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)


The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)

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Bowles normally has very good composure but has always found it uncomfortable at RB. It's been tried before and has always failed. Stef was better oFf going RB.

My concern is how we're getting worse and worse with our ball retention. Started with the gaffer magic Mike and it's John "hoof it to Jamie" Aloisi's turn.


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Its also the evolution of football, to counter act the possession game you need to be fast on the transition. When two top teams against each other, most of the time the goals are scored in the transition or a defensive mistake. Very rarely the team dominates the other in position and score off a great passing and movement. We are talking two teams on the planet that can do this against quality and they are bayern and barca.


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We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.


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crimsoncrusoe wrote:
We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.


Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 19/3/2016 02:58:31 PM

Not a bad opinion; playing under pressure (press or otherwise) is certainly an area of improvement. ][/quote]


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Bowles or Polenz for right back? Assuming Donachie goes back in at CB?
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Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.


Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 19/3/2016 02:58:31 PM

Not a bad opinion; playing under pressure (press or otherwise) is certainly an area of improvement. ]


PM[/i][/quote]

Part of the problem last season was that playing out and through the press was the ONLY option which allowed opponents to commit more players to the press. Aloisi has added the long ball to the arsenal this season which at least keeps opponents guessing. I'm not sure I buy into the "it's hot n humid at home" theory tho given that most away games are very hot as well ..
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Waz wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.



Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 19/3/2016 02:58:31 PM

Not a bad opinion; playing under pressure (press or otherwise) is certainly an area of improvement. ]


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Part of the problem last season was that playing out and through the press was the ONLY option which allowed opponents to commit more players to the press. Aloisi has added the long ball to the arsenal this season which at least keeps opponents guessing. I'm not sure I buy into the "it's hot n humid at home" theory tho given that most away games are very hot as well ..[/quote]

I also think the humidity has alot to do with it, but in that case we should do just as well away as we are used to the heat therefore we can go for longer. I think it has alot to do with just that away games you grind more then you do at home, we arn't good enough defensively to grind therefore major problem when we play away.
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Mfrendin_Roar wrote:
Waz wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.



Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 19/3/2016 02:58:31 PM

Not a bad opinion; playing under pressure (press or otherwise) is certainly an area of improvement. ]


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Part of the problem last season was that playing out and through the press was the ONLY option which allowed opponents to commit more players to the press. Aloisi has added the long ball to the arsenal this season which at least keeps opponents guessing. I'm not sure I buy into the "it's hot n humid at home" theory tho given that most away games are very hot as well ..


I also think the humidity has alot to do with it, but in that case we should do just as well away as we are used to the heat therefore we can go for longer. I think it has alot to do with just that away games you grind more then you do at home, we arn't good enough defensively to grind therefore major problem when we play away. [/quote]


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Mfrendin_Roar wrote:
Waz wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.



Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 19/3/2016 02:58:31 PM

Not a bad opinion; playing under pressure (press or otherwise) is certainly an area of improvement. ]


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Part of the problem last season was that playing out and through the press was the ONLY option which allowed opponents to commit more players to the press. Aloisi has added the long ball to the arsenal this season which at least keeps opponents guessing. I'm not sure I buy into the "it's hot n humid at home" theory tho given that most away games are very hot as well ..


I also think the humidity has alot to do with it, but in that case we should do just as well away as we are used to the heat therefore we can go for longer. I think it has alot to do with just that away games you grind more then you do at home, we arn't good enough defensively to grind therefore major problem when we play away

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Someone at the beginning of the season pointed to the "all time records" and Roars home record isn't all that flash in comparison to others so although this seasons is v/goodnthe records don't back up the thought we are any better at home (heat or otherwise) in comparison to other teams
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Roars home record has been really good in the last 6 years. I remember them having a terrible record up until the first championship
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JonoMV wrote:
Roars home record has been really good in the last 6 years. I remember them having a terrible record up until the first championship


That is the reason why our overall record is so bad. it wasn't until ange second season we actually started winning at home. it was the curse of suncorp.
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Waz wrote:
Mfrendin_Roar wrote:
Waz wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
We just have to face the truth.The fact is Brisbane and for that matter all the other HAL teams are not good enough to play out from the back under a strong pressing defence,without making mistakes.
MV at their best are probably the most capable.
So then it becomes a case of who is best at pressing and who is best at getting balls in the air.
In the hot humid conditions at home Brisbane can outlast the press and capitalise.
Away from home they are vulnerable because if the opponent keeps pressing in colder conditions, Brisbane have to roll the dice and play out under pressure or keep turning over possession.
Taller and stronger teams like MC ,PG and WSW have an advantage over the Roar.
I'm inclined to think Brisbane have to play fast and forward at every opportunity through their fast little men.
They can still rush to get behind the ball in defence.But they can't just pass the ball around if the opponents. Press,they have to keep getting up the park as fast as they can at every opportunity.
If the players are as fit as Aloisi says then not playing high tempo throughout the game is not playing to their strengths.



Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 19/3/2016 02:58:31 PM

Not a bad opinion; playing under pressure (press or otherwise) is certainly an area of improvement. ]


PM[/i]


Part of the problem last season was that playing out and through the press was the ONLY option which allowed opponents to commit more players to the press. Aloisi has added the long ball to the arsenal this season which at least keeps opponents guessing. I'm not sure I buy into the "it's hot n humid at home" theory tho given that most away games are very hot as well ..


I also think the humidity has alot to do with it, but in that case we should do just as well away as we are used to the heat therefore we can go for longer. I think it has alot to do with just that away games you grind more then you do at home, we arn't good enough defensively to grind therefore major problem when we play away

Edited by Waz: 8/4/2016 05:01:47 AM


I Also see this as a sign the league has inproved. So many goals are from defensive mistakes and now we have the strikers that can punish these mistakes. This is why all of the top 6 teams have had blow out scores. Everyone tries to play out the back at some point, but the tranition in attack is quicker and more efficient. I think it is why we are doing well in ACL, our defensive press and formation is quality now. the problem now in the a league lesser players can't handel the pressure and cough up the ball.
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Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.
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azzaMVFC wrote:
Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.


I can't believe how nervous I am about tomorrow's game already.

With so many things being in our favour (Victory playing mid-week in Korea, no Berisha, dead rubber for them), I just can't help but feel that we'll let the opportunity slip.

I hope I'm wrong [-o<

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azzaMVFC wrote:
Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.


You mean United?

Everything does seem to be falling into place for Brisbane though.
Finding it hard to concentrate on work today
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azzaMVFC wrote:
Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.








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Gazzza wrote:
azzaMVFC wrote:
Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.




What if United win tonight?
Who would you go for then?
I'd be happy with a draw in that case

Oh wow I just looked and the goal difference for Brisbane and Wanderers is the same!!!

So a draw vs Victory and a WSW win in Wellington is huge!!! Didn't realise that
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lolitsbigmic wrote:
JonoMV wrote:
Roars home record has been really good in the last 6 years. I remember them having a terrible record up until the first championship


That is the reason why our overall record is so bad. it wasn't until ange second season we actually started winning at home. it was the curse of suncorp.


And despite them actually playing very good football.
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Davide82 wrote:
Gazzza wrote:
azzaMVFC wrote:
Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.




What if United win tonight?
Who would you go for then?
I'd be happy with a draw in that case

Oh wow I just looked and the goal difference for Brisbane and Wanderers is the same!!!

So a draw vs Victory and a WSW win in Wellington is huge!!! Didn't realise that


Yep so many ways it could go down.

City win then Roar need a win because a draw will let City go ahead on GD and WSW go top on GD if they also win.
City and Adelaide draw, Roar can draw but will need WSW to lose or WSW will go top on GD.
Adelaide win only one result for Roar needed is a win.

Just win Brisbane :d



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Yep just need to win. Thinking about anything else this week is pointless.

Anyway. My mainia has kicked in after a week of depression. So I'm off to Melbourne today watching the au mc game tonight and the roar tomorrow.
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lolitsbigmic wrote:
Yep just need to win. Thinking about anything else this week is pointless.

Anyway. My mainia has kicked in after a week of depression. So I'm off to Melbourne today watching the au mc game tonight and the roar tomorrow.


Enjoy the trip mate, please bring home the plate ;) \:d/



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MrBrisbane wrote:
lolitsbigmic wrote:
Yep just need to win. Thinking about anything else this week is pointless.

Anyway. My mainia has kicked in after a week of depression. So I'm off to Melbourne today watching the au mc game tonight and the roar tomorrow.


Enjoy the trip mate, please bring home the plate ;) \:d/


Hope so.
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MrBrisbane wrote:
Davide82 wrote:
Gazzza wrote:
azzaMVFC wrote:
Hope you guys rape us, I'd rather Brisbane win it than City. Fuck that.




What if United win tonight?
Who would you go for then?
I'd be happy with a draw in that case

Oh wow I just looked and the goal difference for Brisbane and Wanderers is the same!!!

So a draw vs Victory and a WSW win in Wellington is huge!!! Didn't realise that


Yep so many ways it could go down.

City win then Roar need a win because a draw will let City go ahead on GD and WSW go top on GD if they also win.
City and Adelaide draw, Roar can draw but will need WSW to lose or WSW will go top on GD.
Adelaide win only one result for Roar needed is a win.

Just win Brisbane :d
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If City win and we draw we beat them by 1 point.
WSW beat Wellington and we draw then they will knock us off on GD.
AU win and we draw we should still win (unless they belt MC)
MC can only win if they win, we lose, and WSW dont win.
If we win, we win. If we draw, we need to hope AU only wins by 1 and WSW dont win.

Ideal scenario is a draw between AU and MC tonight.

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To be honest, I still think that Brisbane will struggle. Their away from home record is nasty.
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I've been working an a video with all the goals from the season from Brisbane Roar and have almost finished, will upload to youtube hopefully before the game starts tonight.



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MrBrisbane wrote:
I've been working an a video with all the goals from the season from Brisbane Roar and have almost finished, will upload to youtube hopefully before the game starts tonight.


Not hopeful of scoring any more this season? ;)
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Davide82 wrote:
MrBrisbane wrote:
I've been working an a video with all the goals from the season from Brisbane Roar and have almost finished, will upload to youtube hopefully before the game starts tonight.


Not hopeful of scoring any more this season? ;)


:lol: It will be updated with more pizazz if we win the plate tonight ;)



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