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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. Sure the deflection was a fluke, but what about the lead up play/work, Fornaroli recieves the ball back to goal, man on his ass, and somehow turns him inside out to create the space for the goal. That is what you call class, something that Brisbane did not display. And for all of Perth's class they still can't beat Brisbane. So either Perth aren't as good as you think, or Brisbane are better than you think (or probably both). 1-1 1-1 Pre game, considering all the circumstances and Brisbane’s form I would have taken a draw, but looking back we should have won by a few at the very least. There wasn’t much differential from the Brisbane side we saw Saturday compared to the early season Brisbane.....absorb all the pressure and then hope to score at the end. O’Shea was nowhere to be seen, only Holloway you could say made an impact. 1-1 1-1 Enjoy the mediocre grit and grind. With all your analysis of Perth's brilliance and class, you're yet to come up with a sensible reason they can't beat a gritty, grindy NPL side. First time you told us they weren't fit, this time they were tired. Have you actually considered that the Roar are better than you think? 1-1 1-1 Keep trotting out the excuses, either way, Perth haven't beaten Brisbane this season. Yes, which is why pre game I would have been happy with a point. But there performance was poor. We looked dangerous every time going forward, Brisbane had no idea what to do the with ball going forward. Listen to Fowlers press conferences, never talks about how good they played, always about the players giving maximum effort and “attitude”. But they do have an idea what to do with the ball, they’ve been doing the same thing for the last 10 games.
They break out of defence, they go wide, they come inside to the 6 or O’Shea, then they go wide to the wide Mid/Wing Back, then they cross into the box .... you can see these nice “triangles” of play over and over again
sometimes they get it right and they open the defence up, more often than not they’re a bit slow and the wing back ends up coming inside again. But even from here they’ve developed some neat interchange play where they’ve learned to play through the defence (see O’Neill’s chance last week vs WU)
It is not perfect nor the finished article, nor are they creating enough chances doing this. But to your point - Roar know exactly what they are doing with the ball going forward they just need to get better/quicker at doing it
but they opened up Perth twice doing it last week, and WU the week before, and Adelaide, City, Nix .... even SFC has their issues with it. I can’t comment on previous games, but I don’t recall Brisbane have a clear cut chance form open play this game. There was a chance a shot hit the side netting but that was it. Whenever it got towards the edge of the box, the attacks stalled. McDonald was very quiet.
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Brisbane will continue to be a gritty plodder side until they can threaten teams on the counterattack.
When Roar sit deep ,they really have no outlet to defeat a high press,so they are forced to turnover the ball continually.
They have have limited pace up front ,with Inman being thenonly fast player.
They cant win games easily because they have to rely on set pieces and unpicking the set defences.
PG were very good at getting their defence set ,whenever there was danger and Brisbane just were way too slow to take any opportunities in transition.This has been the case all season.
Fortunately for us ,not many teams are that great at unlocking stacked defences amd staying steong defensively.SFC is the best and PG is probably second best.But as the ACL showed SFC quality is only relative to other HAL teams.
Teams like WP,MC and AU play a more flashy style ,but are vulnerable in defence as a result.
Below BR,there are a lot of fragile teams.
WU ,WSW,MV,NJ &CCM.
Thats the real issue.
It's true, BR aren't that great.They are just tougher than the fragile teams ,that they can only beat by a single goal.
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. Sure the deflection was a fluke, but what about the lead up play/work, Fornaroli recieves the ball back to goal, man on his ass, and somehow turns him inside out to create the space for the goal. That is what you call class, something that Brisbane did not display. And for all of Perth's class they still can't beat Brisbane. So either Perth aren't as good as you think, or Brisbane are better than you think (or probably both). 1-1 1-1 Pre game, considering all the circumstances and Brisbane’s form I would have taken a draw, but looking back we should have won by a few at the very least. There wasn’t much differential from the Brisbane side we saw Saturday compared to the early season Brisbane.....absorb all the pressure and then hope to score at the end. O’Shea was nowhere to be seen, only Holloway you could say made an impact. 1-1 1-1 Enjoy the mediocre grit and grind. With all your analysis of Perth's brilliance and class, you're yet to come up with a sensible reason they can't beat a gritty, grindy NPL side. First time you told us they weren't fit, this time they were tired. Have you actually considered that the Roar are better than you think? 1-1 1-1 Keep trotting out the excuses, either way, Perth haven't beaten Brisbane this season. Yes, which is why pre game I would have been happy with a point. But there performance was poor. We looked dangerous every time going forward, Brisbane had no idea what to do the with ball going forward. Listen to Fowlers press conferences, never talks about how good they played, always about the players giving maximum effort and “attitude”. But they do have an idea what to do with the ball, they’ve been doing the same thing for the last 10 games.
They break out of defence, they go wide, they come inside to the 6 or O’Shea, then they go wide to the wide Mid/Wing Back, then they cross into the box .... you can see these nice “triangles” of play over and over again
sometimes they get it right and they open the defence up, more often than not they’re a bit slow and the wing back ends up coming inside again. But even from here they’ve developed some neat interchange play where they’ve learned to play through the defence (see O’Neill’s chance last week vs WU)
It is not perfect nor the finished article, nor are they creating enough chances doing this. But to your point - Roar know exactly what they are doing with the ball going forward they just need to get better/quicker at doing it
but they opened up Perth twice doing it last week, and WU the week before, and Adelaide, City, Nix .... even SFC has their issues with it. I can’t comment on previous games, but I don’t recall Brisbane have a clear cut chance form open play this game. There was a chance a shot hit the side netting but that was it. Whenever it got towards the edge of the box, the attacks stalled. McDonald was very quiet. To be fair we don’t create too many chances in games generally, as others have pointed out we are a bit too slow on transition. We also seem to have the Australian disease of making one pass too many at times.
My point was that going forward RF has them following a clear channel of attack which is visible if people look. They know what they’re doing and increasing week after week we are seeing these triangles of passing being executed more often and getting better at it.
In addition to the “chance” you described above McDONALD had one in the first half where he really should have hit the target but just missed instead. There was one other in the second half but for both sides it was a case of half chances.
When Aloisi looked at SFC and Perth’s success he concluded he needed older players.
When RF looked at it he concluded he needed a better defence.
Huge difference in approach , now RF just has to figure out his attack.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. You're right of course. You always are :doze:
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. Sure the deflection was a fluke, but what about the lead up play/work, Fornaroli recieves the ball back to goal, man on his ass, and somehow turns him inside out to create the space for the goal. That is what you call class, something that Brisbane did not display. And for all of Perth's class they still can't beat Brisbane. So either Perth aren't as good as you think, or Brisbane are better than you think (or probably both). 1-1 1-1 Pre game, considering all the circumstances and Brisbane’s form I would have taken a draw. You seemed pretty confident in the matchday thread though? " 0-2 PGFC. Early goal or two then park bus" ;)Jokes aside, Roar certainly haven't wowed me this season and they definitely are missing class players that they have had in the past, that got me genuinely excited. I agree with Keeper66, I thought brissy were outclassed first half so no argument there from me. I would go one step further and say that any other A-League team has more class than Roar. Kudos to the efforts of the boys and hats off to RF, but overall very disappointed this season.
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Western Sydney Wanderers are now within striking distance of a top 6 birth. If they win that one game in hand they have on Roar, they will be within 2 points. In my forum comments before the game I said if Roar loses or draws with PG, Roar will be be stuck mid table by season's end. This was a defining game. 6th if lucky and 7th would not be surprising. Mediocrity to be confirmed.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll.
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+xWestern Sydney Wanderers are now within striking distance of a top 6 birth. If they win that one game in hand they have on Roar, they will be within 2 points. In my forum comments before the game I said if Roar loses or draws with PG, Roar will be be stuck mid table by season's end. This was a defining game. 6th if lucky and 7th would not be surprising. The next 2 weeks make or break for WSW. They play Sydney, then us. I would give us a really good chance of holding them scoreless, so its a matter if we take a chance or two. So, contrary to your prognostications, I think there'll be daylight between Roar and WSW after Round 22.
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+x+xWestern Sydney Wanderers are now within striking distance of a top 6 birth. If they win that one game in hand they have on Roar, they will be within 2 points. In my forum comments before the game I said if Roar loses or draws with PG, Roar will be be stuck mid table by season's end. This was a defining game. 6th if lucky and 7th would not be surprising. The next 2 weeks make or break for WSW. They play Sydney, then us. I would give us a really good chance of holding them scoreless, so its a matter if we take a chance or two. So, contrary to your prognostications, I think there'll be daylight between Roar and WSW after Round 22. So that's 6th :)
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not.
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+x+x+xWestern Sydney Wanderers are now within striking distance of a top 6 birth. If they win that one game in hand they have on Roar, they will be within 2 points. In my forum comments before the game I said if Roar loses or draws with PG, Roar will be be stuck mid table by season's end. This was a defining game. 6th if lucky and 7th would not be surprising. The next 2 weeks make or break for WSW. They play Sydney, then us. I would give us a really good chance of holding them scoreless, so its a matter if we take a chance or two. So, contrary to your prognostications, I think there'll be daylight between Roar and WSW after Round 22. So that's 6th :) Add up the probable points: City (1) WSW (1) CCM (3) Victory (1) SFC (0) Jets (3) Nix (0) Adelaide (3) That would put Roar on 38 points which should easily be in finals. 40 points will probably secure third place this season.
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+x+x+x+xWestern Sydney Wanderers are now within striking distance of a top 6 birth. If they win that one game in hand they have on Roar, they will be within 2 points. In my forum comments before the game I said if Roar loses or draws with PG, Roar will be be stuck mid table by season's end. This was a defining game. 6th if lucky and 7th would not be surprising. The next 2 weeks make or break for WSW. They play Sydney, then us. I would give us a really good chance of holding them scoreless, so its a matter if we take a chance or two. So, contrary to your prognostications, I think there'll be daylight between Roar and WSW after Round 22. So that's 6th :) Add up the probable points: City (1) WSW (1) CCM (3) Victory (1) SFC (0) Jets (3) Nix (0) Adelaide (3) That would put Roar on 38 points which should easily be in finals. 40 points will probably secure third place this season. Adelaide are fighting to remain in the finals or higher than where they are now. Very optimistic to assume 3 points from them next time. Out of CCM or Jets I can see us drop a couple of points with a draw with one them. That's 33 points potential total as another way to look at it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not. Honestly don't think Keeper66 is trolling Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not. Firstly the discussion wan't being disrupted, my post was in relation to earlier posts between you and thekingmb about whether Brisbane were outclassed or not in the first half. Secondly, what parts of my post was inflammatory? All I was doing was relaying data I had collected after closely rewatching the first half, and giving an opinion based on that data along with my general viewing of the half. When you say that difference of opinion is broadly accepted and welcomed in this thread, I think you need to take a good hard look at yourself and think about whether you practice what you preach.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. Sure the deflection was a fluke, but what about the lead up play/work, Fornaroli recieves the ball back to goal, man on his ass, and somehow turns him inside out to create the space for the goal. That is what you call class, something that Brisbane did not display. And for all of Perth's class they still can't beat Brisbane. So either Perth aren't as good as you think, or Brisbane are better than you think (or probably both). 1-1 1-1 Pre game, considering all the circumstances and Brisbane’s form I would have taken a draw. You seemed pretty confident in the matchday thread though? " 0-2 PGFC. Early goal or two then park bus" ;)Jokes aside, Roar certainly haven't wowed me this season and they definitely are missing class players that they have had in the past, that got me genuinely excited. I agree with Keeper66, I thought brissy were outclassed first half so no argument there from me. I would go one step further and say that any other A-League team has more class than Roar. Kudos to the efforts of the boys and hats off to RF, but overall very disappointed this season. Agreed, hats of to them, defence has improved above and beyond compared to last season but I really hope we can see a full 90 min display of attacking with intent with that great defence next season. Recruitment needs to be on point.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not. Honestly don't think Keeper66 is trolling Waz Thanks Mr B
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+x+x+xWestern Sydney Wanderers are now within striking distance of a top 6 birth. If they win that one game in hand they have on Roar, they will be within 2 points. In my forum comments before the game I said if Roar loses or draws with PG, Roar will be be stuck mid table by season's end. This was a defining game. 6th if lucky and 7th would not be surprising. The next 2 weeks make or break for WSW. They play Sydney, then us. I would give us a really good chance of holding them scoreless, so its a matter if we take a chance or two. So, contrary to your prognostications, I think there'll be daylight between Roar and WSW after Round 22. So that's 6th :) I expect higher than that, however I don't have a crystal ball. I do think that WSW have left their run too late to influence our spot. For us, this weekend may give us an indication whether we can challenge up to 3rd spot. Top two are probably beyond us.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. Sure the deflection was a fluke, but what about the lead up play/work, Fornaroli recieves the ball back to goal, man on his ass, and somehow turns him inside out to create the space for the goal. That is what you call class, something that Brisbane did not display. And for all of Perth's class they still can't beat Brisbane. So either Perth aren't as good as you think, or Brisbane are better than you think (or probably both). 1-1 1-1 Pre game, considering all the circumstances and Brisbane’s form I would have taken a draw. You seemed pretty confident in the matchday thread though? " 0-2 PGFC. Early goal or two then park bus" ;)Jokes aside, Roar certainly haven't wowed me this season and they definitely are missing class players that they have had in the past, that got me genuinely excited. I agree with Keeper66, I thought brissy were outclassed first half so no argument there from me. I would go one step further and say that any other A-League team has more class than Roar. Kudos to the efforts of the boys and hats off to RF, but overall very disappointed this season. Agreed, hats of to them, defence has improved above and beyond compared to last season but I really hope we can see a full 90 min display of attacking with intent with that great defence next season. Recruitment needs to be on point. I'm with you man and I don' believe we'll see any improvement this season with the cattle we have. We simply don't have the skills in sufficient number of players. I had a hard look who you could keep - with in mind that guts and grit can be useful and moulded into a good team provided they are balanced out with the quality. Such players that may continue to be handy for a starting XI would be Aldridge, Gillesphey, Neville and O'Neil. And of course the best player in the side Jamie Young.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not. So if trolling is apparently so blatant and prevalent in this particular thread, why isn't simply ignored? Trolls crave attention, so starving them of it will usually make them go away. More to the point, if it's as bad an issue as you say it is, why don't the mods do anything about it? Surely blatant and persistent trolling (under the definition I gave) is ban-worthy? Or could it be that your definition of trolling is still completely different to the definition I just gave, and that people aren't actually trolling? I've noticed you've been very quick to label almost anyone who disagrees with you in this thread a troll (unless they're a BR fan, in which case it's all good). I was literally called a troll a while back because I said the Reds created the best chance of the match against BR in their 1-0 win earlier in the season lol.
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I know this is off thread - but does anyone know much about The Australian newspaper report today there will be an "A league cash windfall with FFA considering Transfer System overhaul". Hope this comes true.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not. So if trolling is apparently so blatant and prevalent in this particular thread, why isn't simply ignored? Trolls crave attention, so starving them of it will usually make them go away. More to the point, if it's as bad an issue as you say it is, why don't the mods do anything about it? Surely blatant and persistent trolling (under the definition I gave) is ban-worthy? Or could it be that your definition of trolling is still completely different to the definition I just gave, and that people aren't actually trolling? I've noticed you've been very quick to label almost anyone who disagrees with you in this thread a troll (unless they're a BR fan, in which case it's all good). I was literally called a troll a while back because I said the Reds created the best chance of the match against BR in their 1-0 win earlier in the season lol. You been missed in this thread. It's been a while since you dropped in to let us know how shitty Brisbane are/were and share your general wisdom. I note you were noticeably quiet after the last AU v BR game. Nevertheless, welcome back and thanks fro setting a few people straight about the subject of trolling. :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. A perfect definition of what has been, and continues to take place here!
It is not a difference of opinion that is taking place here (which is broadly accepted and welcome in this thread) it is deliberate and inflammatory comments being placed in order to disrupt to discussion.
It’s trolling and it needs calling out. Bait taken or not. So if trolling is apparently so blatant and prevalent in this particular thread, why isn't simply ignored? Trolls crave attention, so starving them of it will usually make them go away. More to the point, if it's as bad an issue as you say it is, why don't the mods do anything about it? Surely blatant and persistent trolling (under the definition I gave) is ban-worthy? Or could it be that your definition of trolling is still completely different to the definition I just gave, and that people aren't actually trolling? I've noticed you've been very quick to label almost anyone who disagrees with you in this thread a troll (unless they're a BR fan, in which case it's all good). I was literally called a troll a while back because I said the Reds created the best chance of the match against BR in their 1-0 win earlier in the season lol. You been missed in this thread. It's been a while since you dropped in to let us know how shitty Brisbane are/were and share your general wisdom. I note you were noticeably quiet after the last AU v BR game. Nevertheless, welcome back and thanks fro setting a few people straight about the subject of trolling. :) When did I ever refer to Brisbane as shit? You've just made that up lol. I literally disagreed with you about the spread of chances in the first AU vs BR match and probably a couple of other times about something else (maybe something about O'Shea?) and you've somehow spun that into me calling BR a shitty team. I definitely was critical of BR at the start of the season, because they were objectively poor and RF was objectively making bizarre/terrible decisions (in case you didn't realize bud, many BR fans in this thread were more critical of BR than I was, and some of them still are). Pretty sure I've posted a handful of times here in the last month or so and more or less acknowledged that BR have improved, are playing better football (due to getting rid of ROD and playing Muratovic/DWH and signing SMac) and that RF can coach a bit. Funny that such an active poster in this thread would've somehow not seen some of my posts here. I definitely posted in the most recent BR vs AU thread as well lol.
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+xI know this is off thread - but does anyone know much about The Australian newspaper report today there will be an "A league cash windfall with FFA considering Transfer System overhaul". Hope this comes true. Johnson interviewed by a telegraph reporter. Points out how little a league clubs get in transfer fees. Not certain at all, but a change in the model with extended contracts for players would enable clubs to get a return on their investment in the players.
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If we continue the way we are,then sixth place is most realistic.
But WSW can catch us if they continue to improve.They have class players.
NJ's are probably too far behind.But they are getting stronger with more class players and their coach will improve their defence.
MV are a mess and CCM despite playing well are too loose in defence.
WU are still a threat if they start winning.
Teams above us we can beat,can equally beat us...WP,MC and AU....
MC are favourites to beat us at home.A draw or win would be very good.
WSW away to us ,if they lose to SFC, should be some points.If they get a draw or win against SFC then they will be a challenge.
Finishing 6th or 5th is largely academic.Teams in both positions dont progress.
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+xIf we continue the way we are,then sixth place is most realistic. But WSW can catch us if they continue to improve.They have class players. NJ's are probably too far behind.But they are getting stronger with more class players and their coach will improve their defence. MV are a mess and CCM despite playing well are too loose in defence. WU are still a threat if they start winning. Teams above us we can beat,can equally beat us...WP,MC and AU.... MC are favourites to beat us at home.A draw or win would be very good. WSW away to us ,if they lose to SFC, should be some points.If they get a draw or win against SFC then they will be a challenge. Finishing 6th or 5th is largely academic.Teams in both positions dont progress. Wanderers next 6 games includes 4 against the top 3 sides: SFC (A) Roar (A) City (A) SFC (H) WU (A)
Glory (H)
And they see the season out with Victory, Mariners and Nix.
That’s a tough run in
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A couple of points about how we play... Our first half is intentionally and deliberately defensive. Comments about being outclassed and boring fail to take into account that the team is working hard not to concede in the first half. Guys - get used to it and applaud when they succeed. We failed this time against Perth and they scored in the first half - but not by being outclassed for the half. Second half and Robbie switched to the attacking phase of the 90 minutes. He would have done that even if we weren't a goal down - but swapping a back for a forward rather than just refreshing the front line was the concession to being a goal down and gambling on our backs holding - which they did. You can't compare our first halves to other teams and say we were weak because our attack was poor or non-existent when our actual goal in the first half is to be solid at the back and not necessarily to score - that is just a bonus that all of us Roar fans and Robbie himself would like to happen more often no doubt. To exaggerate the situation, it would be like saying we were outclassed in the first half because our keeper did not score. We play two halves of football - people need to consider that when they look at how we start games and how we finish them. Of particular note was Scotty Mac's involvement. FMD - when you actually watch him you can see his quality, experience, class and impact. He drifts into a space where we are sticking and simply redirects the play where it should be going. Then he drifts to the next place before most players are even aware there is something to be done there. I paid as much attention to him at Redcliffe as I could spare and I was really impressed with how he just made things work. Love it. Reminds me a bit of How Craig Moore used to come out of the line when he knew something could be developing and because of his vision and mere presence the situation never became dangerous.
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Brisbane should bring in a new membership next season for fans, call it the 2nd half season pass, half the price and all the action.
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+xA couple of points about how we play... Our first half is intentionally and deliberately defensive. Comments about being outclassed and boring fail to take into account that the team is working hard not to concede in the first half. Guys - get used to it and applaud when they succeed. We failed this time against Perth and they scored in the first half - but not by being outclassed for the half. Second half and Robbie switched to the attacking phase of the 90 minutes. He would have done that even if we weren't a goal down - but swapping a back for a forward rather than just refreshing the front line was the concession to being a goal down and gambling on our backs holding - which they did. You can't compare our first halves to other teams and say we were weak because our attack was poor or non-existent when our actual goal in the first half is to be solid at the back and not necessarily to score - that is just a bonus that all of us Roar fans and Robbie himself would like to happen more often no doubt. To exaggerate the situation, it would be like saying we were outclassed in the first half because our keeper did not score. We play two halves of football - people need to consider that when they look at how we start games and how we finish them. Of particular note was Scotty Mac's involvement. FMD - when you actually watch him you can see his quality, experience, class and impact. He drifts into a space where we are sticking and simply redirects the play where it should be going. Then he drifts to the next place before most players are even aware there is something to be done there. I paid as much attention to him at Redcliffe as I could spare and I was really impressed with how he just made things work. Love it. Reminds me a bit of How Craig Moore used to come out of the line when he knew something could be developing and because of his vision and mere presence the situation never became dangerous. Roars xG was 0.4 higher than Perth’s at the end of the game, massive over take in the second half as you described
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+xBrisbane should bring in a new membership next season for fans, call it the 2nd half season pass, half the price and all the action. Plus 1
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat most of you BR supporters either failed to notice or don't want to admit is that PG played at probably 60-70% knowing that the last 15 mins they would struggle with fatigue, yet what were you able to produce? After the present top 4 the rest of the teams are poor with the exception being WSW, who may have turned a corner. Ahh, the “Glory will be better when they’re fit” argument. Let’s look at some of the recent games.
Roar 2, City 2. Roar more than matched City.
Roar 1, Nix 0. Same.
SFC 1, Roar 0. Same.
Roar 2, Adelaide 1. Same.
WU 0, Roar 1. Same.
Roar 1, Glory 1. Same.
What you’ve failed to notice is Roar are on a run of only 1 defeat in 9 games and there is literally no team in that run that has outclassed them. They have played every side in the top 6 within that run ... ARE THEY ALL FATIGUED 😂😂
You don’t think Brisbane were outclassed in the first half? They virtually looked like an NPL team. Second half controlled possession and territory (as to be expected) but didn’t do anything with it. I don’t think they were outclassed and I haven’t read an independent match report that says as much.
The results are speaking for themselves now I'm sorry to say this, I've just rewatched the first half and Brisbane were outclassed. Some stats I noted for the first half: 1. Reddy touched the ball in open play a total of 4 times, all backpasses under no pressure. Reddy did not once touch the ball with his hands in the first half. 2. Brisbane made a total of three legitimate entries into the penalty area. One was a tame shot from great distance by Gillesphey, going well wide and a Perth defender cleared it. One other was Brisbane's only other shot in the first half, a pass into the area to Brown who crossed it along the ground to McDonald who shot wide, the other was a pass into the box which came to nothing. Brisbane also made three other entries into the box but to a player in an offside position (one of these was the one where a penalty was given initially). 3. Apart from their goal, Perth had three other shots on goal in the first half that Young saved, along with many other entries into the box. Brisbane faffed around with the ball a lot in midfield in the latter part of the half, but didn't create anything dangerous from it. Perth looked much more dangerous generally when in possession of the ball in Brisbane's half. You’re assuming that you get to decide who was outclassed and who wasn’t.
I said I couldn’t find any independent writing that suggested Roar were “outclassed” in the first half, so in all probability they weren’t “outclassed”.
But let’s run with your theory that they were:
the only goal Perth scored was a fluke - a tame shot that would easily have been saved if it weren’t for a lucky deflection.
The only other shot of note from Perth was a good one but priduced a routine save for Young.
Young will not feature in “Save of the week” this week and only touched the Ball 37 times, which is about normal - he wasn’t that busy.
So yeah but nah on the “outclassed” stuff - you’re just trolling. There is no evidence to back your statement up and no independent writing to support your position. But you are trolling. 'Trolling' is probably the most misused/misunderstood term on the internet (the mainstream media are primarily to blame because they think 'trolling' and 'cyberbullying' are the same thing lol). Trolling literally means to feign complete ignorance on a particular issue (but actually be very well-informed) and take a particular stance that is likely to illicit a significant reaction from those on the other side of the debate. Trolls essentially say stupid/highly inflammatory shit on purpose to bait people into getting triggered and writing an essay in response. If you really think he's 'trolling' (and I really I don't think he is), then he's essentially won because you've taken the bait and 'fed' the troll. No....you took the bait !!
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