For anyone who could not make it to the game or missed the live stream here it is

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Edited by MrBrisbane: 20/9/2015 10:54:22 AM

Honestly thought the NPL lads would put up a better fight lol.

-PB

The Roar released Litfin about six months back. ](*,)

For anyone who went to the Roar game at QSAC, does it actually look like a viable Suncorp alternative (with reconfigured stands obviously)?

Anyone saw the members email in regards to Brattan leaving. Absolutely embarrassing.

I went yesterday and it was my first time inside although I drive past the place regularly. I had that very question in my mind so looked at it from that perspective, here's my observations:

* the location us not ideal as there's no close train station but it's easily accessible for cars and busses, my guess would be you could park over 2,000 cars there now and it wouldn't take much to double that capacity.
* the main stadium has got one permanent stand (which we were in yesterday) and three temporary stands with one having a roof on it. Capacity is 48,000.
* could Roar use it in its current set up, yes but it would be a poor fan experience. The stands behind one goal are even set back far for the running track let alone the pitch itself.
* could it be reconfigured in to a rectangular stadium, yes I'd suggest it could. The main stand we were in could seat 6-7,000 and either using new or recycled from existing stands could easily create a 25-30,000 stadium.
* the big issue I foresee is it is a very serviceable athletics stadium and it would take a very brave politician to tear it down. It's rarely used for its intended purpose but it has become home to numerous community events and occasional concert.
* in addition there are sports facilities such as s gym and recovery center already in place and the whole thing just cried out to be home to a sports team
* here's what interested me, there is a second smaller "stadium" next to the main one - it has a running track with field and one stand which seats about 3,000 (oddly it's the upper tier of a two tier stand only the lower tier isn't there)
* this second venue could easily be upgraded to a 30,000 seat stadium, one tier of ond stand is already in place, and with enough room on site for Roar to create a training field or two plus the existing facilities it could make an ideal home
*so I don't see the big stadium being touched but the second stadium and track could easily be converted allowing BRFC to create a home base for both stadium and training

Yup, rather pointless. I think their arguement is Bratten gave a verbal agreement during the crisis to stay then walked; can't argue with that but at the same time Mulvey is suing based on a verbal agreement for a new contract he hadn't yet signed so ...... ? I liked Bratts and hope he does well wherever he goes, Roar just need to stop creating mess so we can concentrate on the football

I said early on, if Bratts couldn't find anyone he would stay, i'm pretty sure hes got someone lined up so he will go. Hence the verbal agreement. I would do the same thing in his position.

I blame the club entirely for this, not paying people what they were entitled, is just poor and i have no problem with the players leaving like this.

I don't disagree.

Thanks for the info =d>

It sounds like there is at least the potential for Brisbane to move, the main barrier being of course that QSAC is run by the same people who run suncorp. If Stadiums Queensland don't want the roar to leave suncorp they can just offer unsustainable terms for QSAC (or just flat out refuse) and give them no option but to stay at suncorp and run them further into the ground. Dat monopoly.

Resigned when Stead was gone.

I think the owners are different though (might be wrong) QSAC is owned by the city the rest by the state. Not sure what difference if any that makes. I think it could be done you would have to fix the transport problem but I think the answer is "the car" which should be acceptable to most with busses and train links for the rest

It is a traffic nightmare that area. It has improved with that new intersection. But it one of the few places that is a total mess in brisbane. Would be dreadful for match day. Also nothing around for pre/post game services, you will have to drive or take a bus from garden city or sunny bank.

IN saying that i don't get why don't they do more concerts there than suncorp. ITs far more suitable for that sort of thing with the shape of stadium.

I remember going there when the Broncos used to get 40k.Public transport wasn't a problem.Express Buses from the City or Garden City on a Fri night.After work straight onto a bus.10 mins later walk out into the stadium.After the game the same in reverse,but with a lot more frivolity.Five minutes later drinks in the city.It was the slickest operation you would ever see.

This is a nice article. Not the sort of message some want to hear of course:

http://m.foxsports.com.au/football/brisbane-roar-fans-anger-at-bakrie-group-shouldnt-be-taken-out-on-the-players/story-e6frf423-1227535968360

Fickle Roar fans indeed?
What the article fails to note is the absolute contempt with wich fans were treated by the club and FFA last year.Last year memberships were an unmitigated waste of money.Fool me once shame on me!

Great for southsiders...not so great for northsiders!!
The great thing about Suncorp is it's central to everyone. IMO Perry Park is the only other viable venue and it's not going to happen.

Far be it for me to provide the Joke Club with yet another excuse, but good luck getting the Brisbane City council and the Queensland Police to roll out that red carpet for the sokkah poofs.

Edited by paladisious: 20/9/2015 09:51:21 PM

Stadium situation is not going to change and if we could have a Roar thread without the discussion being constantly added to by people who know nothing about the area, that'd be great.



Edited by Borstal_Breakout: 20/9/2015 10:23:29 PM

You guys are orange, right? Why not just move the team to Orange, NSW? Problem solved.

I see the old throw the fans under the bus strategy is in play now. I will say though nothing annoys me more than the assclowns in the media berating the fans on how they should support their team.

Used to use that second stadium for school athletics carnivals. I remember it fondly (well, mostly).

Replacement for Bratts being signed this week. Medical Tuesday. Foreigner.

Quite ironic given that Marco has spent the majority of his time writing shit.

I heard him on the ABC a few weeks back - he actually sounded like he was enjoying Roars predicament and treated it as some form of joke.

I'm not quite sure where we are on memberships, it's 3,500 v 10,000 this time last year but I can't remember if they'd already launched the lite memberships (I think they had, anyone actually remember?) in which case the numbers not a direct comparison is it. I'm not sure why we haven't launched lite memberships yet but would have thought that number would just about double to 7,500 when they do. The big question is will the membership boycott equal a boycott at the turnstiles on the first home game? I'm hoping not but I'm not confident - it depends on the Bakries settling the remaining debt, who they sign with these 4 playing slots now open, and crucially the result and performance against Wanderers in 2 weeks time.

Wrong thread - there's a dedicated one for rumours and guesswork elsewhere on 442 ;)

Marco loves it, even when we were going great he always found a way to be negative. This latest article is nothing new and is what i expect from a bitter man like himself. Nearly every where i see on social media, talking with friends, family, people from work etc nearly every one who didn't buy a membership will still attend all the games but just wont be renewing for many reasons. People forget before the Bakries shambles happened, the way the Mulvey situation was handled was a complete clusterfuck and left some members really furious.

Many reasons why this season fans are not renewing, no one has the right to give them shit especially not some duded-up, egg-suckin' gutter trash, aka Marco. Our crowd will be lower than usual but i think we will still average above 10k depending on results on the field.

Unfortunately for you people are always going to talk about what's interesting to them and I suspect they're not going seek your approval first lol

Ironically the situation with Suncorp is open for change now; the recent vote to increase the number of concerts at the stadiums now turns BRFC into something of a nuisance tenant as even just an additional 3 concerts each year would exceed Roars aggregate annual crowd making more profit for the venue at lower costs (especially as they wouldn't have to refurbish the pitch after every concert for Roars benefit as existing tenants). The greater irony in relation to this discussion thread is why QSAC isn't being used?

The sad fact for Roar is just as the government/operators would be up for an alternative venue discussion for Roar games the club fall into chaos and it would take a brave government to invest a cent in the current set-up. The simpler answer is of course Perry Park (and even that is not simple as it has three tenants with differing needs) but if we get over these grand ideas in Australua that every new stadium has to be a $300m investment - just take Perry Park and throw up two modest looking 7,500 stands on each side, behind each goal put safe standing areas of say 3,000 each and you'd have a low 20k stadium stadium suited for football, close to the centre and by a rail line. Roar could play 10 games there each season and take 3-4 big "event" games back to Suncorp. I couldn't cost this but let's say all that would cost $100m - that could be partially paid for by putting $10/ticket on concert tickets at Suncorp for the next ten years (8 concerts = 720,000 people = $7.2m/year = $72m over ten years and in Roars rent of say half the current deal at $1.5m/year and you would generate $87m in total, more if the strikers stay, more again if the strikers got into the HAL)

And if we leave it "as it is" nothing will change, mismanagement is a curse at Roar but the cause of the financial grief is the stadium deal costing Roar $3m per season. I smile when people tell me how well Victory are run but give Melbourne Victory the same stadium deal we have and they would lose money! Roars situation at Suncorp is untenable, we can no longer stick our heads in the sands and assume a new owner will be along any minute to save the club, we've gone broke twice now and the stadium deal is the cause. The new concert deal means Suncorp can make more money out of concerts than soccer, so there is an opportunity today it's just a shame we havd muppets in charge of the club when the opportunity arose.

Edited by Waz: 21/9/2015 07:49:12 AM

You mean like the Victorian Govt wouldn't allow Australia's NT or Victory play at a bigger Etihad stadium? :lol:

Should have mentioned the source was Fox. No further information was included.

My best guess would be a Spaniard - flavour of the month for the league and JA spent the majority of his time away from coaching back there. On Saturday, Moorey also briefly mentioned his/JAs overseas contacts have been working overtime with them this off season.

It is relevant as this is our club thread either way :)