:lol:

I don't know why you think throwing the name Eddie Maguire around gives your claims any creedence. If it was my team, I'd be more worried about it than anything else. Are you sure Collingwood doesn't need another training ground? I'm sure you already know that the only reason your homeground got the renovation funding in the first place was cause MaGuire wanted Olympic Park for Collingwood, yet you think he's going to be some sort of SMFC benefactor? MaGuire wants what's good for Collingwood AFL team, nothing else.

I think you just love to spin BS as usual. You have been proven wrong over and over , and even this 'rumour' has fallen flat on its face. Its time you gave up on it man really.

Lock it please, just as it deserves.

Thread should stay open as this topic is valid

How many times have we heard a board back the coach or a public figure within any one organisation publicly and then comes the axe???

Sidwell will definitely walk by the time the next season kicks off - I am certain of this

The only question is will the Heart remain in the HAL???

They more than anyone else require an urgent cash flood and the next TV deal will provide a trickle

On another note I have been advised that there has been an approach by Eddie McGuire - Geoff Lord and George Donikian to be involved with smfc

Also there will be some international fixtures next year at the new stadium against a class opponents

Question is will smfc represent themselves or the privately funded satellite sxfc

Serious times ahead - Honeymoon over

Edited by chris: 29/12/2011 03:00:40 PM

Btw Joffa, can you lock this thread too please. I consider it was started as nothing but a trolling exercise, so if you are going to close some because of that, you might want to add this to the list. Thanks :)

^^ I think you will find its just the owners investing more cash. Hardly unusual in sport.

Every comp relies heavily on TV money to sustain them. Not sure why that would e a surprise.



Edited by heart_fan: 27/12/2011 05:43:00 PM

So the Heart have borrowed more money to cover their losses?

How many clubs are relying on the TV money to bail them out, some of us seem to think that over here.

I wonder how a sports identity like "Eddie Maguire" would feel about the heart v a club like a smfc which has huge potential and nill cost for their ground which is international standard

Just curious

Those are 'basic financials', which are not even confirmed for accuracy. Hard to use as any real gauge. Another thing, we are not expected to make a profit this year, but it is next season that the planned 'breakeven' was budgeted for.

Some just seem to be waiting for the day it falls apart. Keep dreaming guys. The original rumour was BS, as is just about everyone else some of you have thrown at the club. Time to find a new target.

Melbourne Heart v Melbourne Victory Derbies

Attendance: 25,897
Attendance: 23,059
Attendance: 26,579

Aggregate: 75,535

Melbourne Victory v Melbourne Heart Derbies

Attendance: 32,321
Attendance: 39,309

Aggregate: 71,630

Combined Derbies

Aggregate: 75,535
Aggregate: 71,630


Total 147,165

The Herald Sun had some basic financials of Heart with annual expenditure listed at $9.5Million, Income listed as $3.5Million in Sponsorship/corporate packages, a $1.4Million annual FFA contribution leaves a shortfall of $5.6 Million.

Based on their estimated forthcomming losses of $1.5Mill Heart makes $4.1 Mill from other revenues including gate receipts and memberships. A figure which I find intriging, with an ave attendance as of today of 9668 per match they would have to generate $293K per home game to make up the $4.1Mill

Any way I still they are headed for a spectular financial crash.

Heart's membership targets for this season was 7500. We've recently hit 6000 members, and fingers crossed - last nights win will help gain a few more members. If we were able to sign up the 1500 extra members by end of season, that's potentially an additional $150,000-300,000, depending on if they get a 5 game, or full membership.

Another sell out derby in Feb, and an increased home average for the next 4 home games in Jan would go a long way to help the club get closer to that break even point.

I think all investors are hoping for a cash cow of a TV deal. All signs are looking good based on this season's viewing and attendance figures, I guess we'll find out at the end of this season.

On SEN he was focused on the new TV deal and FFA dividends. I think its no secret that every franchise bar MVFC is waiting on the new deal and therefore an increased dividend from the FFA which as a guestimate needs to be in the vicinity of $3Million per fanchise.

Will be interesting not only what Heart investors do, but most of the franchise investors do if significant increase in dividends is not forthcoming.

nope, and the article in the herald sun this morning clearly stated that him and the other investors are happy how things are progressing and are in it for the long term

So nothing about 'wanting out' then?

Peter Sidwell on SEN radio this morning, was asked about the financial status of the Heart after the first year of operation loss of over $2.5Million. He replied that he was happy with Sponsorship especially Westpac (claiming it as the best sponsorship package in the league)disappointed with membership below estimated currently 6,000 budgeted 7,500. WHile he did say extra funds have been secured to cover operational losses for current financial year and preparation for further losses going forward.
His expectation is that in 18months to two years the A-League franchises will be totally funded. I assume his expectation is for a much improved TV contract.

I thought it was the fact Victory decided, they did not want to have any connection to a gambling company. I know that this is their current policy, and seems the policy of other A-League clubs as well.

Well said Arfur.. You are a prime example of the kind of supporter of an ex-NSL club that should be embraced and welcomed to the HAL not alienated.

BTW .. I heard from a good source that Melbourne Hellas are being wound up in the New Year ;)

Auckland City have never been awarded Club of the Century - South Melbourne have, hence Chris's proud signature.

well ive heard from my knights loving coworker that the sxfc bid is still sitting on the sidelines, and he is a heart member as well

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LOL.

I don't attend any aleague games. Zero. None. What the fuck do you think it is, a communistic regime like N. Korea where we do things for the good of the league or risk arrest for displaying subversive intent? What a stupid fucking question. Do we get arrested for failure in our national service?

I'd think Arthur would do much, much more for the game than 99% of the silly freaking teenagers whose balls are yet to drop and the wankers thinking we should all have a shrine in our homes dedicated to the aleague so we can light a candle each night, kneel in front, say the rosary and bless ourselves with holy water.

Some of you blokes really need a bloody life and interest outside the extremely narrow and insular attitudes displayed in here.

For the good of the game? Boring shites.

That's hypothetical, but yes I would get to a minimum of 6 or 7 games per season.

Let's stick with a real life scenario. Chris and Arthur, do you attend a few Heart and/or Victory matches for the good of the game?


Auckland City - "Oceania Club of the Century"

What a ridiculous statement. Were have I ever called for the demise of the A-League? True I'm not particularly keen on a couple of franchises. I do foundly love the Roar and don't miss their matches when in Melbourne, even go to their youth league matches in Melbourne. I like The Glory, I like Newcastle, I like Wellington, I like Adelaide, I like CCM were my dear cousins live.
What I can't beleive is how much you hate SMFC? What did they ever do to you? You need to get over this Bitterness please.


Edited by Arthur: 18/11/2011 10:34:30 PM

chris intralot were the principal sponsor last year:lol: we have adecco and engery watch as our two principal sponsors now

Why? :lol:

That deal ended when Heart joined the league ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

But they seem to have won you over so easily... :lol:

I enjoy the a-league i don't have anything to be bitter about. Taking snipes at a-league clubs, either obviously or thinly veiled as all three of you do isn't going to win you many friends, but you're too bitter to see it.

Since I don't really follow Heart (nor any other HAL team for that matter), I don't think I'd be inclined to follow SXFC either.

But I'm very interested to see what a club like that could do in the HAL, same as Marconi et al in Sydney. Had this HAL season not started so well I'd say it would've been worth a punt in the next couple of years.