OK here is the list of leagues with the changes, just a bit of a summary for you all.

Premier League & Premier Youth

APIA Leichhardt Tigers
Blacktown City FC
Blacktown Spartans
Bonnyrigg White Eagles
Manly United FC
Marconi Stallions
Parramatta FC
Rockdale City Suns
South Coast Wolves
Sutherland Sharks
Sydney Olympic FC
Sydney United FC

Changes - Bankstown City Lions relegated to Super League, Blacktown Spartans promoted from Super League.

Note - The SAP Skilleroos U/13 will be playing in the U14’s Premier Youth League Competition and the SAP Senior Skilleroos U/14’s will play in the U/15’s Premier League Competition. The SAP Girls U/15’s will play in the U/13’s Premier Youth League Boys competition.

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Mens Super League

Bankstown City Lions
Dulwich Hill
Fraser Park
Granville Rage
Hills Brumbies
Macarthur Rams
Mounties Wanderers
Northern Tigers
Spirit FC
St George FC
Sydney University
West Sydney Berries

Changes - Bankstown City Lions relegated from Premier League, Mounties Wanderers promoted from Division 1, Central Coast withdrawn from the league. No relegation.

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Mens Division 1

Balmain SC
Camden Tigers
Fairfield Bulls
Fairfield City Lions
Gladesville Ryde Inner West Allstars
Hurstville ZFC
Inter Lions
Mt Druitt Town Rangers
Northbridge
Schofield Scorpions FC
Stanmore Hawks
University of NSW

Changes - Northbridge promoted from Division 2, Mounties promoted to Super League. No relegation.

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Mens Division 2

Bathurst 75’
Belmore Hercules
Fairfield Wanderers FC
FC Gazy Lansvale
Hakoah
Hawkesbury City SC
Hurstville City Minotaurs
Luddenham United
Mountains United
Nepean FC
Prospect United
West City FC

Changes - Northbridge promoted to Division 1, Roosters FC removed from the league, Chopin Park and Springwood renamed West City FC and Mountains United.

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Super Youth League

Bankstown City Lions
Central Coast FC
Dulwich Hill
Fraser Park
Granville Rage
Macarthur Rams
Mounties Wanderers
Northern Tigers
Spirit FC
Sydney University
West Sydney Berries
Western NSW Panthers

Changes - Bankstown City Lions relegated from Premier Youth League, Blacktown Spartans promoted to Premier Youth League, Schofields Scorpions relegated to Development Youth League.

Note - The NSWIS Boys will play in the Under 18’s Super Youth League Competition. The SAP Junior Skilleroos U/12’s will play in the Under 13 Super Youth League Competition.

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Development Youth League

Camden Tigers
Gladesville Ryde Inner West Allstars
Hakoah
Hills Brumbies
Mt Druitt Town Rangers
Nepean FC
Northbridge FC
Mountains United
Schofield Scorpions
Southern Branch
St George FC
Stanmore Hawks

Changes - Schofields Scorpions relegated from Super Youth League, Balmain East Tigers, Hurstville City Minotaurs and Inter Lions removed from the league, Springwood renamed Mountains United.

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Also, the changes in the women's competitions. Much more straight forward than the mens.

Womens Premier League

Blacktown Spartans FC
Central Coast FC
Gladesville Ravens
Illawarra Stingrays
Inter Lions
Macarthur Rams
Manly United FC
Marconi Stallions
North West Sydney Women’s Koalas
Sutherland Sharks
Sydney University
Western NSW Panthers

Changes - Southern Branch relegated to Super League, Gladesville Ravens promoted from Super League.

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Womens Super League

APIA Leichhardt Tigers
Nepean FC
Northbridge FC
Northern Tigers
Parramatta FC Lady Hawks
Southern Branch
Southern Districts
St George FC
Sydney Olympic Women’s FC
Eastern UNSW Lions

Changes - Gladesville Ravens promoted to Premier League, Southern Branch relegated from Premier League, Springwood replaced by Southern Districts.

Edited by keepersball: 11/10/2011 01:08:11 PM

why was roosters removed for? was it money reasons or something else?

Wonder why Minotaurs lost their Youth League

who knows. i do know theyve had issues with grounds for a while now.

Wonder the reasoning behind both Central Coast and Roosters being removed, possibly Central Coast joining NNSW?
As for Roosters, seemed to be well backed for a division 2 team, unless there was a merger with Fairfield City lions?

Answers to all your questions guys:

Roosters - APPARENT, don't quote me, admin and financial problems

Central Coast - Youth have been aligned with CC Mariners and will play under the baner of the CCM Academy. The first grade was seen now as serving no purpose, as talented youngens will now go straight into the NYL selection. CCM Academy is set to join PYL in 2013 when FNSW restructures.

Hurstville - Contrary to ground beliefs, they did finally manage to get a lease for season 2012, but everyone has been left scratching their heads to why their youth had been given the boot

Edited by keepersball: 11/10/2011 09:50:10 PM

This worries me.
No, not the talented youngsters, only a tiny amount of the most talented and the rest have no options outside local grade football or to travel outside their region to Sydney or Newcastle. Players above youth league age will be forced to do the same or play at a poor level.

FFA now have a private organisation running 'some' CC kids in the NSWPL and the CC community without their top club.

The mindset and direction of Australian football that permits the annihilation of a healthy, community service club and sends the message that the community no longer matters, only the elite connected to a private franchise, worries me.

That's right. CCL first grade have been the forefront of football in Central Coast, and the reasoning behind the demise of the team was they already have the CCM playing. What they forgot to see was that most of the CCM are not from the Central Coast. They would debate the issue and say this is a way to get more locals into the team. Common sense prevails once again, and this will decline the standard in CC, not what FFA believed that it to help the standard.

Killing CC Lightning and removing any chance of CC seniors and youth playing in NSWSL is throwing the baby out with the bath water. There was no necessity to be one or the other, with one a step in the elite development ladder and community club and the other, the top rung.

Now, there's an enormous gap between low level, club grade football and aleague youth. It's akin to Wollongong entering the aleague and the Wolves being removed from local community football with similar claimed reasoning for doing so.

So the CC youth are going to play in the NSWSL next year and the PYL in 2013. I'm not sure why this is a bad thing.

The only teams to get the chop was the senior and under 21 mens sides and being a full fee paying member of CCF I dont mind this either. The fact that lightning players spat the dummy in the newspapers and said they would go straight to Sydney or Newcastle rather than to come back to the local association and give back to the local football community that has been subsidising them reinforces that fact for me.

Anyway below is a link to the CCF junior football development plan so you can judge for yourself. My eldest is in one of the regional teams at the moment and he loves it. Even if he doesn't get through the experience has been fantastic. The training and games are at a higher level than normal club football and he gets to play with some of the better players from our local area that he has played against for the last 5 years.


http://www.ccfootball.com.au/UserFiles/File/Development/CENTRAL%20COAST%20JUNIOR%20FOOTBALL%20DEVELOPMENT%20PLAN.pdf

Now, did i say the CC (mariners) youth playing in the NSWSL next year and the PYL in 2013 is a bad thing or did i say ?

What a load of crap. the whole thing is a shambles!! The CCF is back running the rep program because it was a rushed , i'll informed decision by them. Some of your comments are laughable! Wait to your boy get's to the end of the "pathway" and see if you opinion will change! And as for the "spitting the dummy" call read this!!
http://digitaledition-wyong.expressadvocate.com.au/default.aspx?iid=50577&startpage=page0000065#folio=063

So when is Football NSW going to explain the youth dumping of Hurstville , Inter Lions & Balmain Esat Div 1 Youth Teams, and also the non promotion of Mt Druitt after winning the club championship....This has been a total disgrace, no prior warnings and considering that Inter & Balmain were in their 1st year at Div 1 Youth and dindt run last in the club championship, a lot of lads left in the wilderness of Football in NSW...I cant believe that no discussion or even an explanation has been produced by Football NSW...

Can someone please help mysel and others on what the hell went on here......

Blacktown Derby Baby!

hells yeh.

There are many rumours and such to why these clubs were dumped, with the most common is that FNSW want to align all comps as like Prem and PYL. I still believe it is total cr*p what is going on. There lays some, not much, common sense however. East Balmain were the third choice team playing at their home ground, Hurstville have had problems with their grounds and 18s team. That's just me thinking though, who the f*ck know what goes through FNSW's mind.

MDT however will have the biggest beef with FNSW. Constantly doing well in Div 1, and while they came second for the last two years, the teams which came first were promoted. Their number is finally called, a breath of fresh air for the general area football wise, and it is taken away like candy from a baby. They are all up in arms about it, and rightly so.

But FNSW has always been complete f*cktarsds when it comes to promotion and relegation in all comps. I mean how can APIA do crap in 2009,10 and parts of 08 yet still be there, same with Wollongong. Okay, I understand the history of these clubs. If you want them to stay up, tell and force them to pull their socks up. However West Syd Berries get two years and down the toilet they go. Same with Macarthur and also then there was the removal of Penrith Neapean United. Cast back some more years and there was the famous St George and Bonyrigg fiasco, with FNSW IMO getting it wrong again. Using MDT now, Schofeild has done cr*p all in Super Youth League yet it took them thre whole years to get rid of them. They finally go down, but nothing good comesof it.

FNSW is an absolute joke, and my opinion on Club Championship and Promotion/Relegation is defined in one word. Lottery. The more money you pay the better the chance you have, yet the odds will still be one in a million

really? so tell me how on earth parra fc avoided the drop given their financial outlay in the PL this year? strong performances across three grades, thats how.

yeah tbh i actually dont mind the club championship to decide on relegation.
as for the lower grades, i do think the FNSW needs to clear alot of things up. personally i would like to see the team finishing 1st get promoted and the team finished last get relegated. if the promoted team doesnt have the finances then the team that won the grand final. if they dont have the finances then the team that finished 2nd and so on.

i agree 100 percent most of the state league is about coin, pure and simple. not talent and hard work.they leave these clubs in the top level no matter how crap they perform and dont let the right teams get promoted, exactly like APIa. quite a crap team full of politics and they let the scum think they are king shit charging an arm and a leg to let kids play and using there shit players in the place of a talented player.

its the reason soo many kids have quit, in all the years i spent running around parks i have seen so much talent wasted, quitiing cause the system is all about money and not Ability.

I don't know what you're trying to say here? Parra did well and hence are still up in PL? Never said anything about money forcing clubs out of PL. If FNSW get their registration fee then they no longer care about the club's financial fare during the season. I was highlighting the fact that something obviously has been happenned to keep APIA and Wollongong up.

Balmain has over 100 teams in Canterbury District and Inter have 20+ - stop annoying us with bs

You mean something like not finishing on the bottom of the Club Championship?

exactly. end of the day, if apia finsihed last on club championship, they would of gone down. simple. some people on here are a bit over the top when it comes to their constant hammering of FNSW. there were even comments about FNSW somehow being to blame for Penrith Nepean going under even though their financial difficulties were their own doing.

im very interested to see what happens on the south coast though. if they cant be salvaged, do they rebadge again? will the new entity be allowed to take up the wolves position in the PL? if no, who gets the 12th spot?

never a dull day in state league football.

i understand a review is taking place at present about the various axings from the state comps, eg minotaurs from state div 1. anyway, by end of week it should be wrapped up.

personally, i think the governing body must, if they drop any team from any comp, provide reasons, if they are being dropped for any other reason than a regular relegation for coming last.

As far as I'm aware, if the corporation which holds the Football License ceases to exist, then that club is sent to the bottom of the pyramid if it rebadges under a new corporation. This is what happened to Penrith-Nepean United. Nepean Association wanted to go alone and stay at the top level, but they weren't allowed to.

If South Coast Wolves do fold, there is no need to relegate Bankstown. The Premier League would stay at 12 teams.

south coast will survive...somehow.

wolves will be there next seasion

ive heard the same thing from a couple of reliable sources over the past 24 hours.

I was part of the APIA squad in 2009, and we came last in the Club Championship I'm pretty sure...

That was the same season when penrith folded though wasn't it?

i think youre right. but even if not, they have, at least for the past couple of seasons, relegated based on club championship. simple.
it goes without saying that whenever there is a restructure this may change a but theyve been consistent the past two seasons at least.

Wrong wrt Balmain. Its a different club in the Canterbury District comp.

As far as I am aware not one of Inter, Hurstville or Balmain has received an explanation as to why they were cut from youth league. The first they found out was when FNSW issued the general announcement of the teams for next year. None of them received a phone call, letter, email or anything. FNSW professionalism at its finest, as anyone who has had to deal with these clowns over the years could attest to. Thats hundreds of young players, coaches and staff, not to mention sponsors etc all left in the lurch with no warning whatsoever.

I believe the clubs are exploring the option of a class action in the courts as the FFA has said it can't or won't do anything until they attempt to resolve things with FNSW. But FNSW is just giving everyone the silent treatment so that is pointless. Legal action sounds like a waste of time and money to me. Someone in FNSW doesn't want them in the comp, so if they don't get rid of them this year they will next or the year after. Some things like the disgrace that is FNSW never change.