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This is a wonderful opinion. The things mentioned are unanimous and needs to be appreciated by everyone.
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Decentric wrote:
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Decentric wrote:

Which bit do you find offensive?

"dodgy" or "leb"?

[quote=decentric]aussierus has posted some interesting training programmes from ASA and his own.


Oh geezuz.:roll:

The bloke has rarely ever posted anything on FFT that has NOT directly referenced the dodgy money spinner.

His credibility was sunk many moons ago.



The archives don't go back beyond 6 months.

At the same time as Andy Jackson was posting his training sessions, Aussiesrus set out what were sound training ground sessions. If the archives went back far enough I would prove you wrong, but I can't cut and paste the posts.


Bump for decentric.

Your good mate is at it again. :lol:


Edited by judy free: 21/11/2011 11:48:59 AM
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This is a wonderful opinion. The things mentioned are unanimous and needs to be appreciated by everyone.

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Decentric wrote:
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So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?

back on topic

Anyone got any ideas where?


Yes.

The Korean team who toured Tasmania would probably willingly receive an Australian touring team.


thanks but i was thinking of an academy for one player.

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Judy Free wrote:
Decentric wrote:

Which bit do you find offensive?

"dodgy" or "leb"?

[quote=decentric]aussierus has posted some interesting training programmes from ASA and his own.


Oh geezuz.:roll:

The bloke has rarely ever posted anything on FFT that has NOT directly referenced the dodgy money spinner.

His credibility was sunk many moons ago.



The archives don't go back beyond 6 months.

At the same time as Andy Jackson was posting his training sessions, Aussiesrus set out what were sound training ground sessions. If the archives went back far enough I would prove you wrong, but I can't cut and paste the posts.

I'd love to see you set out your training sessions, Chips.
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krones3 wrote:
krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?

back on topic

Anyone got any ideas where?


Yes.

The Korean team who toured Tasmania would probably willingly receive an Australian touring team.
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Decentric wrote:
Judy Free wrote:

You should be very aware that I have little time for sockah spivs everywhere, like your FFT mate and his dodgy leb business partner.



Mods please delete the racist reference to someone of Lebanese origin.:x


Which bit do you find offensive?

"dodgy" or "leb"?

decentric wrote:
aussierus has posted some interesting training programmes from ASA and his own.


Oh geezuz.:roll:

The bloke has rarely ever posted anything on FFT that has NOT directly referenced the dodgy money spinner.

His credibility was sunk many moons ago.

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Decentric wrote:
To find out the local educational institutions are good in a global context. This is not prevalent amongst local pre-tertiary students in grades 11 and 12.

To experience life in a different country - the USA. To visit Vancouver Island in Canada and compare differences between two countries in close proximity.

To experience subtle cultural differences comparing USA with Australia.

To live independently in another country.

To appreciate the assets of one's home environment/state/country.:)


Don't disagree with any of that.

My son went there AFTER completing his tertiary education, that was five years ago. No plans yet on returning. Hectic lifestyle but still finds time to play weekly 7 a side in NYC.

Education>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sporting pursuits.





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krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?

back on topic

Anyone got any ideas where?
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Judy Free wrote:

You should be very aware that I have little time for sockah spivs everywhere, like your FFT mate and his dodgy leb business partner.



Mods please delete the derogatory reference to someone of Lebanese origin.:x

In terms of soccer/football schools I like hearing what is occurring elsewhere, like ASA and Gareth Edds' school in Queensland.

"FFA only has finite resources." This is quoting our state FFA TD.

In Tasmania the Morton Soccer School provides opportunities for players who don't make the rep teams' cuts. It is possibly having more success than the National Training Centres in this state. One of their players has recently been signed by Melbourne Heart. Like ASA, Ken Morton and his players are visiting England.
Their players are trying to get into into English Lower League squads as the A League is perceived as more of a closed shop. It is difficult for players out of area to gain A League/W League contracts unless much better than locals.

NTC programmes are free.

State teams cost about $3 000.

Rep teams cost $200-$300.

It costs a considerable amount of money for FFA elite programmes whilst any other sport is free. I don't see why private academies are anathema to Chips (Judy Free) and the (banned from 442 since June), Rabid (ECP).

Aussiesrus has posted some interesting training programmes from ASA and his own.

Edited by Decentric: 8/11/2011 11:44:43 PM
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Judy Free wrote:
Decentric wrote:
It was still beneficial going to the US for a college soccer scholarship, albeit in the short term.


Really?

How so?





For the experience of training like a professional footballer.

To have some excellent football training ground instruction.

To play a different style of football.

To find out the local educational institutions are good in a global context. This is not prevalent amongst local pre-tertiary students in grades 11 and 12.

To experience life in a different country - the USA. To visit Vancouver Island in Canada and compare differences between two countries in close proximity.

To experience subtle cultural differences comparing USA with Australia.

To live independently in another country.

To appreciate the assets of one's home environment/state/country.:)
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Judy Free wrote:


Decentric wrote:
The problem was the lack of quality of the academic institution, which wasn't apparent until the relative arrived and studied. First year uni was like grade 9 or 10 in Tasmania, and probably anywhere else in Australia. It was easier than grades 11 and 12 pre-tertiary subjects here.

A second problem is that a standard three year degree in Australia takes four years to complete in the USA. The first year they do over there is very often general and consequently often a waste of time for an Australian who has been reasonably successful in an Australian year 12 institution.

Many students attend universities in the USA who would have no hope of attending a tertiary institution in Australia, New Zealand or the UK. The USA has the best universities in the world and a much greater number which must be the worst.

What was frequently supposed to occur often didn't.


Look, decentric, plenty of families get trapped into thinking that their son or daughter has won something special by being selected for such scholarships, and want to believe that this is all some sort of prestigious acknowledgement of their kid's hidden talents. In such situations it's almost human nature to allow emotions to cloud common sense. Families simply prefer to block out any negative issues raised (by those who know better)and run with the dream. NSR and the like are money making shams. They pick up their business from vulnerable families who know no better.


Fair comment.=d>

Shame all your posts aren't like this paragraph, Chips. On topic, no personal attacks with some useful information. Why not adopt this approach all the time?:d
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Decentric wrote:
It was still beneficial going to the US for a college soccer scholarship, albeit in the short term.


Really?

How so?

Decentric wrote:
The problem was the lack of quality of the academic institution, which wasn't apparent until the relative arrived and studied. First year uni was like grade 9 or 10 in Tasmania, and probably anywhere else in Australia. It was easier than grades 11 and 12 pre-tertiary subjects here.

A second problem is that a standard three year degree in Australia takes four years to complete in the USA. The first year they do over there is very often general and consequently often a waste of time for an Australian who has been reasonably successful in an Australian year 12 institution.

Many students attend universities in the USA who would have no hope of attending a tertiary institution in Australia, New Zealand or the UK. The USA has the best universities in the world and a much greater number which must be the worst.

What was frequently supposed to occur often didn't.


Look, decentric, plenty of families get trapped into thinking that their son or daughter has won something special by being selected for such scholarships, and want to believe that this is all some sort of prestigious acknowledgement of their kid's hidden talents. In such situations it's almost human nature to allow emotions to cloud common sense. Families simply prefer to block out any negative issues raised (by those who know better)and run with the dream. NSR and the like are money making shams. They pick up their business from vulnerable families who know no better.

You should be very aware that I have little time for sockah spivs everywhere, like your FFT mate and his dodgy leb business partner.




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Judy Free wrote:
Decentric wrote:



Krones, only one out of every 200 to 3000 players ever play at a level beyond their local league.

Of that small percentage only a small number make a reasonable living from the game. A mate has a book about players in English League One and Two where a number of footballers vacillate about whether they would have been better off with a trade or a profession rather than being a professional footballer.

Adam D'Apuzzo is a player in Australia who has been wavering for a few years. It seems he may have left professional football for a conventional career instead. I know a former Young Socceroos captain, NSL regular, who did the same as D'Apuzzo at 26.

Whatever you do, education is far more important than a career in football. Even if successful, a football career can be over instantaneously with one tackle. Ask Brian Clough.

Edited by Decentric: 31/10/2011 11:36:03 PM


Interesting you now passing on such advice, given the poor advice you gave 'that relative'.






It was still beneficial going to the US for a college soccer scholarship, albeit in the short term.

The problem was the lack of quality of the academic institution, which wasn't apparent until the relative arrived and studied. First year uni was like grade 9 or 10 in Tasmania, and probably anywhere else in Australia. It was easier than grades 11 and 12 pre-tertiary subjects here.

A second problem is that a standard three year degree in Australia takes four years to complete in the USA. The first year they do over there is very often general and consequently often a waste of time for an Australian who has been reasonably successful in an Australian year 12 institution.

Many students attend universities in the USA who would have no hope of attending a tertiary institution in Australia, New Zealand or the UK. The USA has the best universities in the world and a much greater number which must be the worst.

What was frequently supposed to occur often didn't.

Edited by Decentric: 8/11/2011 01:01:46 AM
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neverwozza wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Decentric wrote:
krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?



Krones only one out of every 200 to 3000 players ever play at a level beyond their local league.

Of that small percentage only a small number make a reasonable living from the game. A mate has a book about players in English League One and Two where a number of footballers vacillate about whether they would have been better off with a trade or a profession rather than being a professional footballer.

Adam D'Apuzzo is a player in Australia who has been wavering for a few years. it seems he may have left professional football for a conventional career instead. I know a former Young Socceroos captain, NSL regular, who did the same as D'Apuzzo at 26.

Whatever you do, education is far more important than a career in football. Even if successful, a career can be over instantaneously with one tackle. Ask Brian Clough.


This is true

I am blessed to have children who go to very good schools,outside of school they all learn a language and a musical instrument (piano to grade 5).They have travelled the world extensively and take part in many voluntary charitable activities at the moment all look like making it to university (must get it from their mother.

If I am going to spend money on football it will be spent in the best way I can think of not cultural tours of Europe or exorbitant Futsal tours.

Some parents just throw money at these tours with out thinking about the value.



What language did your kids learn Krones? We want our kids to learn a language but aren't sure which way to go. We are thinking about French because my wife did HSC French and wants to take it up again but we have lots of German friends and their kids are learning it too so were thinking about that so they aren't studying in isolation. Also did the second language and the musical instrument help your children with their High School studies. My thinking is if they already have a grounding in a couple of subjects it may make for an easier 4 units in the HSC.



Japanese French and Italian.
If it was my time over again I would pick a Latin language.
French Italian Spanish or Portuguese.

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krones3 wrote:
Decentric wrote:
krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?



Krones only one out of every 200 to 3000 players ever play at a level beyond their local league.

Of that small percentage only a small number make a reasonable living from the game. A mate has a book about players in English League One and Two where a number of footballers vacillate about whether they would have been better off with a trade or a profession rather than being a professional footballer.

Adam D'Apuzzo is a player in Australia who has been wavering for a few years. it seems he may have left professional football for a conventional career instead. I know a former Young Socceroos captain, NSL regular, who did the same as D'Apuzzo at 26.

Whatever you do, education is far more important than a career in football. Even if successful, a career can be over instantaneously with one tackle. Ask Brian Clough.


This is true

I am blessed to have children who go to very good schools,outside of school they all learn a language and a musical instrument (piano to grade 5).They have travelled the world extensively and take part in many voluntary charitable activities at the moment all look like making it to university (must get it from their mother.

If I am going to spend money on football it will be spent in the best way I can think of not cultural tours of Europe or exorbitant Futsal tours.

Some parents just throw money at these tours with out thinking about the value.



What language did your kids learn Krones? We want our kids to learn a language but aren't sure which way to go. We are thinking about French because my wife did HSC French and wants to take it up again but we have lots of German friends and their kids are learning it too so were thinking about that so they aren't studying in isolation. Also did the second language and the musical instrument help your children with their High School studies. My thinking is if they already have a grounding in a couple of subjects it may make for an easier 4 units in the HSC.
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Decentric wrote:
krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?



Krones, only one out of every 200 to 3000 players ever play at a level beyond their local league.

Of that small percentage only a small number make a reasonable living from the game. A mate has a book about players in English League One and Two where a number of footballers vacillate about whether they would have been better off with a trade or a profession rather than being a professional footballer.

Adam D'Apuzzo is a player in Australia who has been wavering for a few years. It seems he may have left professional football for a conventional career instead. I know a former Young Socceroos captain, NSL regular, who did the same as D'Apuzzo at 26.

Whatever you do, education is far more important than a career in football. Even if successful, a football career can be over instantaneously with one tackle. Ask Brian Clough.

Edited by Decentric: 31/10/2011 11:36:03 PM


Interesting you now passing on such advice, given the poor advice you gave 'that relative'.




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Decentric wrote:
krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?



Krones only one out of every 200 to 3000 players ever play at a level beyond their local league.

Of that small percentage only a small number make a reasonable living from the game. A mate has a book about players in English League One and Two where a number of footballers vacillate about whether they would have been better off with a trade or a profession rather than being a professional footballer.

Adam D'Apuzzo is a player in Australia who has been wavering for a few years. it seems he may have left professional football for a conventional career instead. I know a former Young Socceroos captain, NSL regular, who did the same as D'Apuzzo at 26.

Whatever you do, education is far more important than a career in football. Even if successful, a career can be over instantaneously with one tackle. Ask Brian Clough.


This is true

I am blessed to have children who go to very good schools,outside of school they all learn a language and a musical instrument (piano to grade 5).They have travelled the world extensively and take part in many voluntary charitable activities at the moment all look like making it to university (must get it from their mother.

If I am going to spend money on football it will be spent in the best way I can think of not cultural tours of Europe or exorbitant Futsal tours.

Some parents just throw money at these tours with out thinking about the value.


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krones3 wrote:
So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?



Krones, only one out of every 200 to 300 players ever play at a level beyond their local league.

Of that small percentage only a small number make a reasonable living from the game. A mate has a book about players in English League One and Two where a number of footballers vacillate about whether they would have been better off with a trade or a profession rather than being a professional footballer.

Adam D'Apuzzo is a player in Australia who has been wavering for a few years. It seems he may have left professional football for a conventional career instead. I know a former Young Socceroos captain, NSL regular, who did the same as D'Apuzzo at 26.

Whatever you do, education is far more important than a career in football. Even if successful, a football career can be over instantaneously with one tackle. Ask Brian Clough.

Edited by Decentric: 31/10/2011 11:36:03 PM

Edited by Decentric: 9/11/2011 09:24:10 PM
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Judy Free wrote:
You'd spend that sort of money to "be seen overseas" ?

FMD, how desperate can some people be.

Take him to Disneyland.....at least he'll enjoy the rides and bring home some happy memories.


I am talking about spending football money in the best way.
what about the student exchange program?
High quality players in regional areas only lack one thing high quality games against quality opposition.

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You'd spend that sort of money to "be seen overseas" ?

FMD, how desperate can some people be.

Take him to Disneyland.....at least he'll enjoy the rides and bring home some happy memories.


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So here is the deal all the U15s up that i know are embarking on various football / futsal tours of Europe.
cost $5000- $8000 duration 3 weeks.
Reasons for going - to be seen overseas - sightseeing -culture.

Having already been to Europe many times

Personally I would rather spend my money going to Asia (preferably Japan or Korea) duration 1 month
Reason very very high intensity-technical football against quality players.

No culture no sight seeing just Football.

Anyone got any ideas where?

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