When you talk about ball retention, was this mindless possession with no penetration like we saw under Versleijen or something more constructive?

Did many teams press high and what happened to the defences when they were put under pressure? Is this where most defensive lapses came from?

Also I know you said you haven't seen any truly dominant displays but did you see any flair players and/or kids who can put their foot on the ball and change the tempo of a game?

In international competition we don't face teams that all play the same/similar way.

I know this is just one short tournament but I have to wonder if these kids are getting any exposure to situations which force them to solve different tactical problems?

I think in light of what we've seen recently at u17 & u20 level, this is another serious issue with the new Dutch direction.

With regard to the above, 7-8 games are crammed into a short space of time which clearly means fitness must be an issue with the teams.

So are we really getting a true reflection of quality or is it somewhat distorted due to the scheduling?

Allstars 1 d QIS 1

The ages range from 13 to 16, as far as I know there are no video links

How old are the players playing in this torunament? and does anyone have a video link to this, i might be worth of a look if its possible?

Allstars vs Winner
Any Results??

I think the real positive to come out of the NTC challenge is how close all the states are. Some of the results did not reflect the actual flow of the games. NNSWIS started off with brilliant play to beat NSWIS 3-1, Tassie were sitting last and beat the team coming first being SASI. The real hard luck story must go to ACTAS though by losing 3 games 1-0 after completely dominating the games. Two of those games the goal was scored with virtually the last kick of the game and it was for an obscure penalty where the ACTAS player was fouled and the ref awarded the opposition a penalty. [-x

Edited by spathi: 10/12/2011 02:56:28 PM

Edited by spathi: 10/12/2011 10:38:51 PM

question mark normally means a question is being asked not a statement of fact.
I think?
I do believe you would know more about corruption and those allegedly involved in it than me.[-x [-x [-x [-x [-x [-x [-x [-x

Edited by krones3: 10/12/2011 12:23:19 PM

Nothing directly to do with SSG's, although I guess that is part of it, it was more to do with your comment about Sydney developed Socceroos v Country NSW.

You're now an expert on alleged sockah corruption in Sydney?

Don't spread yourself too thin, boss.

Yes to some of the above.

Why do you ask and what is it's relevance to SSG's?

or just gross corruption maybe?

Is that more about opportunity, finances, facilities,competing codes, accessibility to coaching, culture, level of competitive matches than talent? A tyranny of distance perhaps?

The rego numbers don't lie, krones.

But feel free to research the number of Sydney developed Socceroos v country NSW if it makes you feel better.

Edited by judy free: 10/12/2011 10:10:25 AM

Always happy to temper the bollox with undisputed facts.

well said.

I would think this game is important for at least three reasons. Firstly it provides further encouragement to teams and coaches to adopt and persevere with the nationally approved development process by giving the team with the most technical points (QLD on this occasion) a further opportunity to show their stuff before some of the pre-eminent youth coaches etc in the country. Second it allows the organisers to "sense-check" the methodology behind this tournament by contrasting the best technical team against the strongest team and making sure the emphasis on technical development is also still making teams competitive. Thirdly, it gives selectors for higher level junior development programs another opportunity to see some of the stronger and better technical players - also one of the reasons for the final winner against the "all-stars" game. Judging by the fact QLD beat NSW in a canter in the final - mind you after losing against them that morning - the signs remain positive for the competitive element. The impact and level of play by some players (on both teams) were certainly worth consideration and - dare I say - appreciation.

Obviously at international level the bar is set higher still - your mistakes and injuries etc are increasingly likely to hurt you due to the generally higher level of competition. Good things take time and there will be set backs along the way. The "overnight" success of the Spanish team took decades to develop. Consistency is key - judging by this week we are building some fine young players. Hopefully a good number of these get the opportunity to partake in more quality coaching set-ups in the next few years. Considering that every team here played good football at different times and players overall looked much more comfortable on the ball than in previous years we appear to be heading in the right direction. Time will tell.

No problem, happy to help out. :)

Thanks for everything

Just made some corrections.

Congrats to QAS. Worthy winners of the final, and as the week went on, their style of football got better and better. They struggled to score goals at times, despite their style, but it all came good in the final. I'm sure this has put a smile on your face, krones. :)

Agree that QAS and WA were the best teams in terms of the 4-3-3 system.



Edited by MidfieldMaestro: 9/12/2011 05:59:17 PM

Humble pie anyone?

Thanks for all that spathi
I truly believe it is the selection process that has helped Queensland's ability to play this style of football.
For a long time the selection process in Queensland has been very wanting, finally Peter de roo has taken control. Along with the informed selectors at the various events around the state clearly they seem to have found a good formula.
=d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d>

Queensland beats NSW in the final between the competiton ladder leader and the technical ladder leader 4-1.
In what was a dominating display Queensland outplayed the NSWIS team all over the park.

Overall I think NSWIS were very lucky to get to where they did as they were by no means the best team there. In my honest opinion Queensland and WA played the best football all week.

Thanks for railroading another topic Judy Free, much appreciated by no one, cheers.

wow do all the people in NSW know that that really only means sydney.
So much for state representation do the other cities in NSW feel that they are represented in the state.
It started a war once went something like (no taxation with out representation) another country but you never no could be onto something big here chips.[-x [-x [-x [-x

True, but still represents the largest body of registered junior/yoof players in straya by some margin. It's where the action is, krones.

And looking at the tables in Canberra I can see that theres been no change in results (pecking order) over the past 20 odd years. That is, Syd still dominates.

SSG's is not a new concept for the bulk of strayan players who have gone onto bigger and better things.

Probably left the game as they could see no future in the NSL.

ssg were introduce nationally in 2008, sorry to telly you chips there are other places in Australia than the corrupt Sydney.](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Edited by krones3: 9/12/2011 03:54:56 PM

SSG's were intro'd in early 90's in the nations football capital, Sydney.

The first set of players have prolly since retired.

so you have been saying for many years.
how well did we do before the ffa took over? in the now defunct NSL
SSG where introduced in 2007 that means that the first set of players are now 10yrs old
we will see the full result in 2015 when they are 13.
in 2000 Australia's FIFA world ranking was?
and now 22

Edited by krones3: 9/12/2011 03:39:28 PM

LOL, Berger will have slipped out the back door with a truck full of ripe Aussie mangoes by the time the clueless have detected a robbery.