Nigga please, a guy who wants to "turn the boats around" is not a "realist" and has no comprehension of the issue what so ever. You CAN'T turn the boats around. Either a) you turn the boat around and leave them on the edge of Indonesian water with enough fuel to get back to land - in which even they'll turn back around for Australia and we'll have to rescue them, b) you leave them on the edge of Indonesian water with no fuel and set them adrift - not only against maritime law but also means we'll have to rescue them, or c) they'll just scuttle the ship and then we'll have to (yep, you guessed it) rescue them.

Turning the boats around is not an option and anyone who believes that it is has no idea about human behaviour, international politics or maritime law.

Dumbed down higher education. A crime that we will pay for over and over again

They turned several boats around successfully during the Howard era

Batfink loved Howard, never saw that coming.

-PB

The government doesn't want people who can think. Thinkers are dangerous. The government wants people who are smart enough to do the menial tasks set before them without hurting themselves and stupid enough to accept this.

Links?

Turning boats led to death, violence
Lauren Wilson
July 09, 2012 12:00AM
JUST four boats were successfully turned back to Indonesia under the Howard government in 2001, with seven other attempts abandoned because of riots, fires, threats of self-harm or violence to Royal Australian Navy officers.
An analysis of attempts to turn boats back between September and December in 2001 shows most attempts failed, and on seven occasions threats were made to Australian officials trying to implement the policy.

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/turning-boats-led-to-death-violence/story-fn9hm1gu-1226420581377

And yet the policy was ultimately a success, according to the ex Vice Admiral of the Navy.

Death is part of defence force activity. No wonder he has such a callous view.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/turning-back-boats-can-work-says-former-australian-navy-chief-chris-ritchie/story-fnho52ip-1226674740556

Did you read about the 60 missing off the southern Java coast this morning? Do you think it's compassionate and humane to encourage people to take these kinds of risks? People on the left will always put ideology and politics above human life, they would rather human life be lost than lose face over admitting a Howard policy era actually worked.

By selling off the nations assets to enable him to implement vote buying middle class welfare that ultimately did nothing to improve our nations infrastructure, jobs, wealth creation or training?

comparing us with other nations debt position.....we should be well above that position if it wasn't for the waste and incompetence....

It's not an 'interpretation'. It's what happened.

First of all, the $96 billion debt included $40 billion from the Fraser-era which just happened to have John Howard as treasurer. :lol: Good on Johnny for finally getting rid of his own debt problem.

Some of Howard's great achievements included selling Australia's 2/3rd's of Australia's gold reserve for the rock bottom price of $306 US per Ounce (it's now at $1321 per ounce, great work there Johnny). He also sold Telstra, but failed to structurally separate it. Which means if the Liberal party wins, their fraudband FTTN has to buy back the copper network they sold in the first place.



Pray tell exactly what waste.

Shares in salary packaging company McMillan Shakespeare have plummeted more than 50 per cent, as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's proposed tax changes to car leases begin to bite.
After emerging from a week-long trading halt on Thursday morning, the company's stock hit a three-year low, falling 51 per cent to $7.42, wiping $549 million off its market value.
Analysts expect they've seen the worst of price erosion, but the exact damage will remain unknown until after the election.
James Lennon, of Ord Minnett, estimated shares would steady between $8 and $9. He said this was based on half the company's novated leases being for private use, which would equate to a 30 to 40 per cent hit to earnings.

But he said McMillan was doing itself no favours. In a statement, the company announced it would suspend all communication with investment analysts, shareholders and the media until after the election "unless the position becomes clearer prior to then", which meant analysts had to rely on speculation as to McMillan's exposure to the changes.
The government announced last week it would tighten fringe benefit tax guidelines on novated car leases as part of a plan to generate $1.8 billion to help pay for scrapping the carbon tax in favour of an emissions trading scheme.
Under the plan, the current statutory formula will be abolished for new leases, leaving the log book method that requires an employer to track the costs related to each car, and to estimate the business use by using employee-completed log books.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has announced he would scrap the changes if elected. But even if the changes were overturned, Mr Lennon said investors would remain wary of the company.
"There has always been this risk with this stock," he said, adding he expected revenues to recover, but not the share price, which was trading as high as $18 before the trading suspension.

Mr Lennon said it would have been better if the changes had been implemented gradually, allowing a "grandfather period" for business to adjust.
In a statement, McMillan Shakespeare's chief financial officer, Mark Blackburn, criticised the government's decision, saying it abolished the 28-year practice of relying on a statutory formula to quantify the amount of fringe benefit tax payable.
"[The proposed change] is creating disruption within the industry and is expected to lead to an unknown and unquantifiable decrease in demand for novated leases and an adverse impact to the business overall," Mr Blackburn said.
While Treasurer Chris Bowen's proposals are yet to pass Parliament, Mr Blackburn said the changes would have a "material adverse impact" on the company's future earnings. He said McMillan is expecting a net profit of between $61 million and $63 million for fiscal 2013, representing a 15 per cent increase on the prior financial year.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/mcmillan-shakespeare-shares-dive-after-rudd-outlines-tax-change-20130725-2qkz1.html#ixzz2a25L8LjZ

the waste in the solar

insulation

BER

grocery watch

the PC for everyone at school

Carbon Tax

Mining Tax

now we have the ads telling us that Abbotts boat policy wont work

And our debt is fine

It's a tax rort. People who are legit can claim it with a log book with no problem. It's people who work in office buildings who don't drive anywhere but still claim the full deduction that are costing the taxpayer.this is so far off the mark its not funny.....



wrong...





Not waste. 4 deaths,shitloads of fires resulting in compensation and a collapsed industry, if that's a success i would hate to see what a failure in your household is...LOL:lol: :lol: :lol: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)



Not waste. there was waste there for sure......but really on this occasion it's probably not so important considering it's timing with the GFC, the proof that it had waste is that the catholic/private/independant schools got their funding and managed it far better than the government could and ended up with better results



4 years ago. Only cost like $10 million. only $10 million for what return????



Program is finished. lol .. that's an understatement...never got going...LOL...another broken promise and ill conceived fuck up....



Worked fine. once again hate to be around when you have a failure.....denial much

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/carbon-tax-inflation-fears-evaporate-20130724-2qj4q.html



Brought down by vested interests in the mining community who refuse to pay their way for resources that don't belong to private interests, but belong to all of Australia via our Government. It should be increased and made payable for all mining. hello??!!??!? the royalties have been paid for years upon years,there was no reason to bring out a tax, and the mining industry were prepared to come to the table and work something out that was in both parties interests....but no this Government just love to sink the boot into business....



It won't. and guess what sherlock it isn't !!! so why is it that this government has sat on it's hands for 6 years and done nothing about the problem?? because they are imcompetent, but now there is an election john cleese arrives with basil and start shooting from the hip....."oh i say basil, quick!!! just put some commercials on the TV thingy and tell the hoards of morons that it's all going to go away...you know just do whatever it takes, yes that's it lets go and have our photo taken up there in PNG....hmm what's does that stand for basil??..oh never mind...hurry up now and get that started like a good chap"......wake up to yourself and get a fucken grip....




Federal Government debt is at an acceptable level.

well that's funny when it suits you,you make stupid statements like this??? "First of all, the $96 billion debt included $40 billion from the Fraser-era which just happened to have John Howard as treasurer. lol Good on Johnny for finally getting rid of his own debt problem." so is debt only bad under LNP but under ALP it's fine?? or is it bad because of the huge debt that was left by whitlam and inherited by fraser now becomes howards problem???? FFS you don't make any sense????
I think most people would agree and certain level of debt is not bad as long as a government has a plan of action to extinguish it, and that the debt incurred was utilised for something substantial such as infastruture and is a long term plan.....but so far we have heard from the world's greatest treasurer that we will return to surplus, time after time after time.....i let's be generous he was only $18 billion out with his forecasts....LOL....not to mention the $49 billion that's not even on the balance sheet....so to many Australians it's not the debt that is the major problem, the debt get's the headlines, it's this government inability to deliver anything it promises, and all during a time where there is a mining boom and we are in a strong economic position.......pretty esy to look good when your compared to trainwrecks.....who don't have a resources boom and opportunities like Australia does......once again smoke and mirrors for the plebs.....

Try reading this:
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/03/27/heres-the-real-story-of-australian-debt/

Stop regurgitating KRUDD rhetoric and try thinking for once. :) or do you have to ZIP?????

Any debt is ok as long as other countries owe US more than we owe THEM. It's all about debt management. Money isn't worth anything unless you spend it.

pretty sure there would be a lot of people disagree with that one..............so greece doesn't have a debt problem?????

Greece has a debt problem because they owe more than they are owed.

Greece has a debt problem because they owe more than they are owed.

Are you saying we are owed more than we owe?

Yes.

Every time I see an article like this my hopes raise a little more
http://www.news.com.au/opinion/there8217s-something-about-malcolm-turnbull/comments-fnh4jt54-1226686158772