The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


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:lol: Jaymes Diaz still refusing to concede defeat in Greenway, despite a 3% swing AGAINST him.
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My party handed Abbott his win: Palmer
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Updated September 8, 2013, 7:36 am

Clive Palmer says he's a king maker and Tony Abbott wouldn't have secured the nation's top job if not for his party's preferences.

"We had six per cent and we preferenced the Liberal Party. The swing against Labor was 4.5 per cent," the Palmer United Party leader told AAP on Sunday.

"Without Palmer United's preferences, Tony Abbott would not be prime minister."

Election analysts say Mr Palmer is on track to win the Sunshine Coast seat of Fairfax and his star candidate Glenn Lazarus will win a Senate spot in Queensland.

But Mr Palmer insists his party will also win the neighbouring Sunshine Coast seat of Fisher, which former Howard government minister Mal Brough is confident he's bagged for the Coalition.

He also claims Senate candidate Jacqui Lambie will win a spot in Tasmania, as will Dio Wang in Western Australia.

And he says his party's in with a chance in the lower house Queensland seat of Hinkler.

The Palmer party, formed just four months ago, had outpolled the century old National party, he said.

More Australians would become Palmer party converts when they understood more about his policies, he said.

"Those policies weren't reported nationally but they got me 30 per cent of the vote in Fairfax, where the local media reported on them," he said.

Mr Palmer said he was happy with his party's vote and the prospect of winning two lower house seats and three in the senate.

"It's never been done in the history of Australia in such short time," the mining magnate said.

"We got more votes than the National party nationally and they have been around for 100 years."

Mr Palmer said that like Tony Abbott, he would have some sway over any Palmer party candidates elected to the Senate.

"Well I am the parliamentary leader of the party, just like Tony Abbott is the leader of his party, and my relationship will be similar to his relationship with his senators," Mr Palmer told AAP.

"I'll have the same sway Tony Abbott has over his senators or what Bill Shorten will have over the Labor party senators - it's no different."

Barnaby Joyce, who has made a successful transition from the Senate to the lower house by winning New England in NSW, has expressed concern that Mr Palmer will "bring pandemonium" to Canberra.

But Mr Palmer says that's a bit rich.

"Well Barnaby Joyce causes pandemonium everywhere he goes and he's got a track record of doing that," he said.

"It's about having rational debate and raising critical issues - which Barnaby would struggle to understand."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/18829687/?
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Fuck you, Australia. I'm done.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
:lol: Jaymes Diaz still refusing to concede defeat in Greenway, despite a 3% swing AGAINST him.



He has a six point plan to win it from there....
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girtXc wrote:
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Liberals smallest electoral win in the last 40 years, Liberals average electoral win is 26 plus seats according to insiders.

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Bizarre that you think this is noteworthy:lol:

A win by 1 will get you elected but a 26 seat majority is worthy of ridicule:lol:

Labor did well to hang on to many seats but their margins have been cut significantly
So many seats are very tight now



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8 SEP 2013 - 9:59AM
Election 2013: Winners & Losers

There has been a decisive swing to the Coalition in the House of Representatives after yesterday's election. Here's a run down of the winners and losers and those seats still in play.

COALITION

CORANGAMITE - Sarah Henderson won the country's most marginal seat of Corangmite on the Victorian southwest coast.

PETRIE, CAPRICORNIA – LNP looks to have picked up the northern Brisbane seat of Petrie and the Rockhampton seat of Capricornia from Labor.

DOBELL, ROBERTSON - The NSW Central Coast seats have moved from Labor to the Liberals. Craig Thomson failed miserably as an independent, replaced by Karen McNamara. Lucy Wicks defeated Labor MP Deb O'Neill in Robertson.

NEW ENGLAND - Barnaby Joyce successfully moved from the Senate to the House, regaining the northern NSW seat for the Nationals after the retirement on independent Tony Windsor.

LYNE - Likewise, National David Gillespie has taken back the nearby seat after the retirement of independent Rob Oakeshott.

PAGE - Another one-time traditional National seat has returned to the fold, with Kevin Hogan taking the seat back from Labor's Janelle Page.

TASMANIA - Liberal candidates have picked up three of the five Tassie seats (Bass, Braddon, Lyons), with cabinet minister Julie Collins the only Labor MP retaining her seat of Franklin. Independent Andrew Wilkie has easily held onto Denison.

LABOR

GREENWAY - Michelle Rowland held on for Labor in the western Sydney seat, helped in no small part by the Liberal candidate Jaymes Diaz whose campaign was ridiculed for his mangled answer when asked to outline coalition policy and his resultant ducking of the media.

McMAHON - Treasurer Chris Bowen held on despite fears he would lose in a Labor backlash in western Sydney.

KINGSFORD SMITH - Matt Thistlethwaite survives scare to retain the beachside Sydney seat vacated by Peter Garrett.

QUEENSLAND - Labor seems to have held onto most of its Queensland seats - including vanquished PM Kevin Rudd and ex-treasurer Wayne Swan. Still in doubt Forde (Peter Beattie) and Petrie (Yvette D'Ath) and Capricornia. Labor did not pick up any seats.

BRAND - Gary Gray appears to have held on in the Perth seat despite expectations

PERTH - High profile candidate Allanah MacTiernan

PALMER UNITED PARTY

FAIRFAX - Clive Palmer billionaire is a serious chance of becoming Clive Palmer MP with a strong showing in the Sunshine Coast seat of Fairfax. Counting is still to be finalised. In neighbouring Fisher, former Speaker Peter Slipper has been seen off, but PUP candidate William Schoch may spoil former Howard government minister Mal Brough's return party. Big name candidate John Bjelke-Petersen failed in Maranoa.

The Brick with Eyes, former league star Glenn Lazarus, looks like being a PUP senator from July 1 next year.

GREENS

MELBOURNE - Adam Bandt remains the Greens only lower house MP after holding on to the formerly safe Labor seat of Melbourne for a second term, with only a small swing against him. Senator Sarah Hanson-Young is in trouble

LABOR GONE
BANKS - Daryl Melham
BASS - Geoff Lyons
BRADDON - Sid Sidebottom
DEAKIN - Mike Symons
DOBELL - Craig Thomson (ex-ALP)
CORANGAMITE - Darren Cheeseman
HINDMARSH - Steve Georganas
LA TROBE - Laura Smyth
LINDSAY - Assistant treasurer David Bradbury
PAGE - Janelle Safin
ROBERTSON - Deb O'Neill

IN DOUBT
BARTON (NSW, ALP)
BENDIGO (Vic, ALP)
CAPRICORNIA (Qld, ALP)
EDEN-MONARO - Labor minister Mike Kelly is likely to hold on
FORDE - Peter Beattie unlikely to oust LNP MP
INDI - Liberal Sophie Mirabella is likely to hold on
LINGIARI - Labor minister Warren Snowdon in trouble
MCEWEN (Vic, ALP)
O'CONNOR (WA, Nats) - Nationals likely to hold
PETRIE - (Qld, ALP)
REID (NSW, ALP)

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/09/08/election-2013-winners-losers?
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Informal only rose to 5.9%? Disappointing.
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It's not surprising that the biggest swing away from Labor was not a swing towards the LNP.

Abbott is PM by default. This result is not a vindication of him and his party.



Hmmm..strange take on things???

on the AEC web page it's stats are Labor HAD 72 seat and now have 57 so a loss of 15 seats,
and the coalition HAD 73 seat and now have 88 an increase of 15 seats???

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Labor's loss respectable: Rudd strategist
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September 8, 2013

The Australian Labor Party must continue internal reform after a "respectable" election loss, senior strategist Bruce Hawker says.

Mr Hawker, who was Labor leader Kevin Rudd's political director, said the party needed to find fresh leaders and continue with its internal reform.

"People like Jason Clare, Tanya Plibersek really are the face of the future," he told Fairfax Radio on Sunday.

"There's no excuse for Labor not to say `time to move on'.

"We must make sure that the old factional system of running things goes, that party members get much more say."

Mr Hawker said the loss on Saturday was not as bad as some had feared.

"It was, if I can say this, a more respectable loss than it might have been," he said.

"It could have been a lot worse ... a few months ago the reality is we were looking at absolute Armageddon."

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Julia Gillard breaks her silence
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September 8, 2013 - 12:26PM

Josephine Tovey
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During the seemingly endless oration from the ousted Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd, and the triumphant speech of election winner Tony Abbott, neither man spared a word for the woman who had led the country for three of the past six years.

Former prime minister Julia Gillard was invisible in these moments.

But Ms Gillard, who kept a low profile throughout the campaign, surfaced briefly on social media on Saturday to congratulate her successor, the winners and the losers.

After almost two full months of social media silence, Ms Gillard sent a first tweet of the night to congratulate the new Labor member in her former seat.


Two hours later, Ms Gillard returned to the microblogging site with a message of support for her former colleagues, making particular mention of Rudd and Anthony Albanese, the leadership team who had deposed her only months earlier, and George Wright, the party's national secretary.


Soon after that, she also offered congratulations to the government elect.


Ms Gillard's forays were greeted warmly on the social media site, with praise for her grace and dignity.


Some other Labor figures did pay tribute to Gillard on election night.

"No prime minister has operated in more difficult parliamentary circumstances than she did, and when you look at it she got a lot of runs on the board and in my judgment a lot of good runs," former prime minister Bob Hawke said on Sky News.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/julia-gillard-breaks-her-silence-20130908-2tdfu.html#ixzz2eGTBPUtS
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Interesting how she doesn't take any credit for the loss....
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Joffa wrote:
Labor's loss respectable: Rudd strategist
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September 8, 2013

The Australian Labor Party must continue internal reform after a "respectable" election loss, senior strategist Bruce Hawker says.

Mr Hawker, who was Labor leader Kevin Rudd's political director, said the party needed to find fresh leaders and continue with its internal reform.

"People like Jason Clare, Tanya Plibersek really are the face of the future," he told Fairfax Radio on Sunday.

"There's no excuse for Labor not to say `time to move on'.

"We must make sure that the old factional system of running things goes, that party members get much more say."

Mr Hawker said the loss on Saturday was not as bad as some had feared.

"It was, if I can say this, a more respectable loss than it might have been," he said.

"It could have been a lot worse ... a few months ago the reality is we were looking at absolute Armageddon."

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LOL.....what a load of codswallup........respectable loss.......FMD....they got their arse reamed, and they are happy with the performance.....

will someone please find a way of getting the ALP back to what it originally stood for.....a once proud party diminished to such pathetic lows.......

and the KRUDD speech was just a egotistical rant.....never seen anyone so happy to lose.....
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Joffa wrote:
Interesting how she doesn't take any credit for the loss....


well that's the labor way, same as the supporters.....blame everything except their own performance....their campaign was woeful, as a government there bumbled along....they have no one but themselves to blame......sad really as there are some talented people there but they ain't driving the bus.....
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Wondering how many single party voters we have here who would vote for their party no matter what.

Australian Sports Party got a senate seat in WA:lol:

Palmer looks to win.

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Well what can you say, people voted for Hitler too.

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Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:



Kinda sums up the whole election
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Australian Sports Party got a senate seat in WA:lol:

People don't vote below the line, and people don't pay attention to preference deals.

Sports party got 0.22% of the primary senate vote, however due to clever deals were second preference for 90% of the other parties. In the senate count they were constantly second/third last but every time a small party was dropped off, they'd get an injection of preferences and bubble up a place.

A large number of people are going to say "who voted for ASP? I sure didn't!" when they are in fact the ones that put [1] above the line on a party that preferenced them.
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Joffa wrote:
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Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:



Kinda sums up the whole election

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notorganic wrote:
It's not surprising that the biggest swing away from Labor was not a swing towards the LNP.

Abbott is PM by default. This result is not a vindication of him and his party.


No party ever gets the majority vote, Rudd and Gillard were also PMs by "default".

I guess the big swing away from Labor is not a vindication of their performance over the past six years. The public has spoken.
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Scoll wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Australian Sports Party got a senate seat in WA:lol:

People don't vote below the line, and people don't pay attention to preference deals.

Sports party got 0.22% of the primary senate vote, however due to clever deals were second preference for 90% of the other parties. In the senate count they were constantly second/third last but every time a small party was dropped off, they'd get an injection of preferences and bubble up a place.

A large number of people are going to say "who voted for ASP? I sure didn't!" when they are in fact the ones that put [1] above the line on a party that preferenced them.

I like that there is a bit of a mix of parties in the senate but these one policy parties are just huge unknowns.

In my view, we live in the internet age. Below The line is a very handy site I've used the last 2 elections to organise my below the line preferences. The AEC should be incorporating this service on their website and promoting it around election time.

The parties and media won't like it because if more people go below the line, it will take much much longer to get a result but it's the fairest way.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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Joffa wrote:
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Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:



Kinda sums up the whole election
Not really. It's because people paid attention that they voted out this rabble.
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Well what can you say, people voted for Hitler too.

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Winner of the Dumbest Post of the Year Award.


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thupercoach wrote:
Joffa wrote:
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Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:



Kinda sums up the whole election
Not really. It's because people paid attention that they voted out this rabble.



And so many people voted for Palmer because of his policies, and of course Glen Lazurus will be an outstanding senator....
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Joffa wrote:
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Joffa wrote:
Eastern Glory wrote:
Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:



Kinda sums up the whole election
Not really. It's because people paid attention that they voted out this rabble.



And so many people voted for Palmer because of his policies, and of course Glen Lazurus will be an outstanding senator....


They obviously rate those two higher than Rudd
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Promises and challenges: The road ahead for Tony Abbott's Government
By Monique Ross

Voters have awarded Tony Abbott victory in the election, but for the man who wants to be known as the "infrastructure Prime Minister", the hard work on the road to his vision of a stronger Australia is only just beginning.

From stopping asylum seekers coming to Australia by boat to repealing the carbon and mining taxes, Mr Abbott must now walk the talk on a swag of defining promises, including his costly paid parental leave scheme that is not favoured by business and some in his own party room.

While he rounded on Labor over budget debt and deficit in opposition, the state of the economy will now sit squarely on his government's shoulders.

At the same time, he must shift gears from being one of Australia's most effective opposition leaders to standing at the helm of the nation - while also managing potential conflict with the National Party and leading a team that contains a raft of fresh-faced backbenchers.

Mr Abbott is a Rhodes scholar who briefly trained as a Catholic priest. Before entering politics in 1994, he worked as a journalist and Liberal adviser and also served as the executive director of Australians for Constitutional Monarchy.

A disciplined athlete with a polarising political style, he served as a senior minister in John Howard's government and became Liberal leader in late 2009, ousting Malcolm Turnbull by just one vote.

Mr Abbott is likely to draw on lessons from the Howard era as he enters the top job, though he will face a different set of challenges.

He has promised a "no surprises" government that seeks a happy marriage between liberal and conservative traditions.

He has pledged to strengthen the economy, cut red tape, lower taxes, reduce the size of government and give the states more autonomy where possible.

His government will also be shaped by his "signature" paid parental leave policy, a push to restore the private health insurance rebate and a vow to increase defence spending.

Abbott's vision for his Government

Tony Abbott's goals

On day one

Instruct the public service to prepare legislation to repeal carbon tax
Give direction needed to begin his border protection plan
Halt changes to the fringe benefits tax on company cars
Stop the Clean Energy Finance Corporation from making non-commercial loans

Within 100 days

Have legislation to scrap carbon and mining taxes before Parliament
Have the contentious Australian Building and Construction Commission running again
Implement a new business plan for the Coalition's version of the NBN

By the end of first term


Get the budget on track to surplus
Have the NDIS operating in large parts of every state
Have a "Green Army" working for the environment
Work underway on major road projects such as Sydney's WestConnex, Melbourne's East West Link, Brisbane's Gateway upgrade, Adelaide's North South Road and the Swan Bypass in Perth

"Today, hundreds of thousands of people would have voted for the Liberal and National parties for the first time in their lives," he said while claiming election victory before a cheering crowd in Sydney.

"I give you all this assurance: we will not let you down.

"I am both proud and humbled as I shoulder the duties of government. The time for campaigning has passed, the time for governing has arrived, I pledge myself to the service of our country."

Mr Abbott has said that on day one, he will instruct the public service to prepare the carbon tax repeal legislation and give the direction needed to start his border protection plan.

Within 100 days, he has promised legislation to abolish the carbon tax and to abolish the mining tax would be before Parliament.'

He has said that by the end of his first term, the budget will be "on track to a believable surplus" - a marked shift from previous commitments to have the budget back in the black within a first term.

Mr Abbott, who has championed strategies to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians since his days on the backbench, has promised to push to for Indigenous constitutional recognition from next year.

He also wants an Indigenous affairs minister added to his frontbench, and has vowed to continue to spend a week each year in remote communities.

Key challenges: The economy, carbon and asylum seekers

Mr Abbott admits Australians will be tough on him if he fails to deliver on his pledges.

His biggest challenge is likely to be the economy - he and likely treasurer Joe Hockey will inherit a budget deficit of about $30 billion.

Mr Abbott believes cutting red and green tape, having a firm fiscal strategy and supporting private enterprise will help reverse what he calls a budget "emergency".

He has also promised "modest" industrial relations reforms. His critics fear that is a thinly veiled attempt to breathe new life into the much-maligned ghost of WorkChoices, though Mr Abbott has promised that WorkChoices is "dead, buried and cremated".

After years spent attacking Labor's economic management, ensuring the budget consistently moves towards a surplus under his Government will be a key factor in determining Mr Abbott's credibility.

So too will be his oft-repeated pledge to "stop the boats". His plan involves putting a senior military officer in charge of securing Australia's borders, continued offshore processing, turning boats back when safe to do so and buying boats off people smugglers in Indonesia.

The challenges in this area are many and implementing the policy will directly affect relations with some of Australia's most crucial neighbours, particularly Indonesia.

Signs of success will need to be swift, to avoid political damage.

Another of Mr Abbott's core election promises is to repeal the carbon tax - indeed, he characterised the election as a "referendum" on the issue.

Mr Abbott has long opposed pricing carbon through any kind of emissions trading scheme - in fact, it was Mr Turnbull's support for an ETS that underpinned 2009's Liberal leadership spill.

Until mid-2014, the Senate will remain under the control of Labor and the Greens, which have both indicated they would block a move to scrap the carbon tax.

Mr Abbott has left open the option of a double dissolution election if his plan faces opposition in the Senate - though that would be a high-risk strategy that could leave the Coalition worse off.

He favours a Direct Action Plan that involves paying companies to increase their energy efficiency and funding for schemes to replenish soil carbons and plant 20 million trees.

Mr Abbott has conceded his policy may not succeed in meeting Australia's target of a 5 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2020, and has said he would not spend more than what has been budgeted - $3.2 billion over four years according to a 2010 document - in order to do so.

Walking away from the target would be bound to generate intense debate within Parliament and the community.

Mr Abbott has also pledged to remove the 30 per cent mining tax introduced by Labor, which he says only serves to drive investment overseas.

The long-term fate of another signature Labor policy - the school funding reforms commonly known as Gonski - remains unclear under the Coalition Government.

Mr Abbott has guaranteed the reforms for at least four years, but plans to change the legislation underpinning the reforms to axe the powers of the federal education minister.

The Coalition will also seek to make public schools more independent, which according to its Real Solutions booklet, would provide "simpler budgeting and resources allocation and more autonomy in decision making".

Mr Abbott has said nothing would be off-limits to a post-election Commission of Audit, prompting Labor to warn that the Coalition has plans for deep cuts and changes after the dust settles on the election.

Challenges of the world stage and internal party politics

Mr Abbott will also face hurdles away from the policy front. He was elevated to the top job just days after Australia took over the leadership of the United Nations Security Council, and ahead of next year's G20 meeting in Brisbane.

The international response to the Syrian civil war will be the issue on which Mr Abbott cuts his foreign affairs teeth.

In the final week of the election campaign he described the crisis as involving "baddies versus baddies" - a description Kevin Rudd pounced on as proof Mr Abbott does not have the foreign policy nous to be PM.

Mr Abbott will need to prove that criticism wrong, and show he can deal effectively with world leaders and grow Australia's relations with key nations such as Indonesia, China and the US.

Much closer to home, he will also have to manage potential conflict with the National Party on issues including free trade, foreign investment, agricultural policy such as wheat deregulation, and infrastructure - many of Mr Abbott's roads plans, for instance, are city-centric.

In addition, Mr Abbott will need to handle a host of backbenchers who are learning the ropes while in office and vulnerable to making mistakes because of their inexperience.

He will also need to cut down his 32-member strong ministry and the number of parliamentary secretaries. Under current law a maximum of 30 ministers and 15 parliamentary secretaries are allowed, though those laws could be changed.

Mr Abbott's critics claim his religious beliefs render him politically regressive on social issues like abortion, same-sex marriage and stem-cell research. They blast his past description of climate change as "crap" and his perceived views on women, as former prime minister Julia Gillard did in her blistering misogyny speech.

They also criticise his 2010 remark in an interview with 7.30 that only "carefully prepared scripted remarks" can be "taken absolutely as the gospel truth".

However, his supporters describe him as a loyal man of integrity and solid ethics who sticks to his convictions, listens to people and places high value on society, family and community.

At any rate, the Australian people have voted to give Mr Abbott the opportunity to bring his vision of a fairer, freer, more prosperous nation to fruition.

How long his honeymoon lasts depends on a number of factors, though he has a solid parliamentary majority and a platform built on restrained expectations working in his favour.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-07/road-ahead-for-abbott-government/4942822
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Southern discomfort: the states where Labor lost the election

September 8, 2013 - 1:38PM

The Coalition's election victory was built on a huge swing in Tasmania and a surge of support in Victoria, but voters in NSW and Queensland were less inclined to switch to Tony Abbott.

Labor was wiped out in Tasmania by an 11.1 per cent reversal in sentiment, losing all its four seats as it was punished for the struggling economy and unpopular state Labor government there.

Victoria was almost as bad, with a swing of 5.9 per cent to the Coalition, reflecting Tony Abbott's redoubled and effective campaign in the state over the past 12 months and, perhaps, the axing of hometown hero Julia Gillard.

The scrapping of fringe benefits tax concessions for cars on the eve of the campaign also seems to have hurt Labor.

The two states that host Australia's car industry, Victoria and South Australia, both recorded swings towards the Coalition that exceeded the national average of 3.5 per cent.

The FBT policy was one of the few budget savings measures opposed by the Coalition and its stance has underpinned victories in two electorates that are home to car workers: Hindmarsh, encompassing Adelaide's outer suburbs; and Corangamite, taking in Geelong.

If there was a silver lining in an otherwise bleak result for Labor, it was the moderately better performance in NSW and Queensland.

Labor still lost five seats in the country's biggest state, including the central coast seat of former ALP member Craig Thomson, and may lose three more that are currently too close to call.

But the swing of 3 per cent to the Coalition in NSW was less than predicted and less than the national average, and Labor held on to many western Sydney seats it feared it would lose

Among those seats saved were those held by rising stars and senior ministers Chris Bowen, Tony Burke and Jason Clare.

Labor even got a positive swing in Greenway, its most marginal NSW seat.

The result in Greenway was thanks to the antics of Liberal candidate Jaymes Diaz, who famously stumbled over the Coalition's asylum seeker policy and then spent the rest of the campaign avoiding the media, and his potential constituents.

In Queensland, the Coalition will win two seats at best from Labor - Petrie and Capricornia remain in the balance but are favouring the conservatives.

A 0.85 per cent swing against Labor in Queensland was less than the Coalition hoped but Kevin Rudd's claim to have sandbagged the state doesn't bear scrutiny. Queensland hammered Labor in 2010, leaving it with only 8 of 30 seats, and giving Mr Rudd plenty of scope to make up ground in 2013 in his home state.

Yet, Labor may end up with just six seats in Queensland. Other than Western Australia, it is Labor's worst state in terms of overall two-party-preferred vote with 44 per cent support.

Even still, there were expectations Queensland and NSW could have been worse. There was extraordinary anti-Labor campaigns by the News Corp tabloids in the states, and a slew of polls of individual electorates suggested a diabolical outcome for Labor, including Kevin Rudd losing his seat of Griffith and a wipeout in western Sydney.

On Saturday morning, News Corp's national broadsheet The Australian predicted Labor would lose between 12 and 16 seats in NSW and between four and six in Queensland.

Pollster John Stirton from Nielsen said the polling of individual electorates had often been out of whack with reality.

"Of 55 single electorate polls in the campaign, 13 had the wrong party in front. The ALP was in front in just 12 of the 55 polls whereas on current AEC count the ALP should have been in front on 25 of the polls," Mr Stirton said.

Much of the seat level polling was done by robo-pollsters, companies that use automated polling, he remarked.

In Western Australia (1.2 per cent), the ACT (1.6 per cent) and the Northern Territory (0.5 per cent), the swings to the Coalition were moderate. It is likely no seats will change hands in these areas, although Lingiari - held by Labor - remains in doubt.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/southern-discomfort-the-states-where-labor-lost-the-election-20130908-2tdi1.html#ixzz2eHFI59Xs
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rusty wrote:
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Funny how the Liberal Democrats are going to get a seat in the Senate, purely because people didn't pay enough attention and chose that box :lol:



Kinda sums up the whole election
Not really. It's because people paid attention that they voted out this rabble.



And so many people voted for Palmer because of his policies, and of course Glen Lazurus will be an outstanding senator....


They obviously rate those two higher than Rudd


Actually from what I read, they aren't going to get a seat, they are going to decide a seat because of their preferences. Apparently Pauline Hanson is the person most likely to be supported by those preferences, and win a seat over the actual Liberal Party.
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It's not surprising that the biggest swing away from Labor was not a swing towards the LNP.

Abbott is PM by default. This result is not a vindication of him and his party.



Hmmm..strange take on things???

on the AEC web page it's stats are Labor HAD 72 seat and now have 57 so a loss of 15 seats,
and the coalition HAD 73 seat and now have 88 an increase of 15 seats???

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I'm sorry that the concept of more than 2 parties being available for Australians to vote for is too abstract for you to grasp.
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RedKat wrote:

- Despite having a massive swing against them, Greens are set for more power. They retain a house of reps seat but are set to GAIN 1-2 senate seats
- Australian Sports Party are set to gain a seat with 0.22% primary over Labor's 12.33% primary. Just think about that for a second.
- Motorists are set to gain a seat with 0.53% of the primary over a Liberal with 10.52%.

This senate system sounds logical ](*,)


Preferences. It's not a hard concept.
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