lol not to mention old mate saying if we were Texas this wouldn't have happened.

-PB

Not sure every house in Australia needs a highway at their door step

Oh no are they going to do more to protect Australian citizens and crack down on terrorist activity? What about the civil rights of those poor wannabe terrorists who want to kill Australians? The unfairness of it all. We should just leave these people alone and extend the hand of mate ship to these people, because it's the hand of mate ship and love that is the end to ending terrorism, not surveillance, raids and arrests. Yuck

Perhaps not yet, just as well it's configured initially to be a standard sealed road and can be upgraded to a highway with just minor hardware upgrades. Regardless, they certainly need right now something that is reliable and not useless as soon as something as common as rain occurs.

Also have to ask how people would feel about getting gravel and cobblestones out the front of their house when it's still going to take many many years to build, for what is a very modest saving in cost and greatly reduced potential for increased economic activity :-k

I believe the whole FTTP 100mbps = massive economic stimulus is mostly guff. Most people who spew that kind of sophistry generally don't know much about economics. Remember there are 5 speed tiers on NBN ranging from 12mbps to 100mbps and close to 75% of NBN subscribers have elected speeds 25mbps per seconds or less. As take up rates of NBN increase due to Telstra switching off copper services there and people are forced onto fibre there is an increasing trend of customers preferencing the cheaper plans over those which offer faster speeds. IT/tech sites are generally silent about this trend though, although they were all over it when 100mbps take up was much higher arguing this was proof that ftth was in high demand. The ironic thing about MTM is it will probably be as fast if not faster than FTTH, as speed will be determined by technical factors rather than consumer choice.

As for MTM I wouldn't support it if it didn't deliver substantial cost savings (ie many billions) and completed much sooner, which makes sense because the global experience and consensus is FTTN costs about 1/3 as FTTH and is rolled out much quicker obviously not having to dig up peoples drive ways and gardens.

Only if you already own the network which NBNCo doesn't. I wonder who does own it and therefore will do very well out of this new MTM arrangement...


Edited by mcjules: 18/12/2014 12:19:42 PM

Chances are the gunman wouldn't have attempted the siege (as he would know Texas has concealed carry) or when he started the siege someone would have shot him in the back.

How those gun laws working now?

I agree, our guns laws should be free like America, where this sort of "crazed gunman holding people hostage" thing never happens, cos everyone owns a gun, you see?

He probably wouldn't have been carry a shotgun......but a semi automatic assault rifle instead.

Fucking this.

Our gun laws are just fine.

-PB

It's a strange conservative that lauds the changing of our nation's fundamental freedoms to counter a problem that largely doesn't exist.

People should check out this website and take the test to find out where you sit on the political spectrum.

I think people will be surprised.

http://politicalcompass.org/test

Batty would be on the right big time :lol:

-PB

Just in, Jacqui Lambie not a gun nut. Was I the only one pleasantly surprised?

Should be no surprise to anyone :lol:

I always fall on the left side of centrist libertarianism with these.

The most interesting part is where world leaders sit on the map. For anyone decrying Labor and democrats as pinko leftists, they should really have a second look.

The new tumblr wave of activism (ie: leftist authoritarianism) scares the shit out of me.

I think the questions made my "economic left" value a bit too extreme but i went with it anyway because it goes with the narrative that the batfink and rusty's of the forum like to think :lol:

Bingo! Note AFL connection, ¾ of the way down the article!

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clive-palmer-media-adviser-andrew-crook-detained-over-alleged-kidnapping-reports-20141219-12ai47.html

Clive Palmer media adviser Andrew Crook detained over alleged kidnapping: reports
Date
December 19, 2014 - 11:23AM
Latika Bourke and Bevan Shields

Clive Palmer's media adviser, Andrew Crook, has been detained in raids connected to the alleged kidnapping of a bank executive.

The ABC is reporting Mr Crook has been detained by Queensland police as part of an investigating into the alleged kidnapping of a National Australia Bank executive in Indonesia.

In a statement, Queensland Police said while investigating another matter, Taskforce Maxima's Criminal Economy Team has uncovered evidence which on Friday resulted in the arrest of two men and the issuing of a warrant for the arrest of a third man.

The arrested people are a 51-year-old man from the Gold Coast and 48-year-old man from New Farm. The third man, aged 48, is not currently in Australia.

Mr Palmer confirmed to Fairfax Media that Mr Crook has been detained at his offices in Brisbane. Mr Palmer said he was "concerned to know" what Mr Crook's detention was allegedly about and said he personally had no knowledge of any of the allegations being reported in the media.

However, Mr Palmer seemed to suggest that the raid may be politically motivated.

"The timing seems to be a little bit strange... it does seem coincidental that this is happening just before the state election," he told Fairfax Media.

He said he was concerned that police had seized Mr Crook's computers, which contained the Palmer United Party's media and political strategy for the Queensland state election. Mr Palmer insisted Mr Crook was not a flight risk as he has family and business interests in Australia.

He also likened Mr Crook's detention to that of jailed Australian journalist Peter Greste in Egypt and claimed his media adviser performed "a journalist's function" by writing media releases for the PUP.

Fairfax Media understands police have also issued a search warrant for property developer and former Sydney Swans AFL player Tony Smith.

The charges stem from an elaborate scheme which police will allege was planned partly in Queensland with key elements executed in Singapore and Indonesia before returning to Queensland where the offences were committed.

Detective Superintendent Michael Niland and Detective Inspector Phil Stevens from Taskforce Maxima will hold a media conference this afternoon.

Mr Palmer, Mr Crook and the National Australia bank have been contacted for comment.

I suspect this is why the AFL bloke is in the frame

http://www.news.com.au/news/tony-smith-sues-nab-for-his-lost-fortune/story-fna7dq6e-1225756934625

TOURISM entrepreneur and former Sydney Swans star Tony Smith is suing the National Australia Bank for almost $70 million over the collapse of his business empire.

The local high-flyer - who owned one of the largest mansions in Queensland but was forced to sell it to entrepreneur Daniel Tzvetkoff - is alleging several of his failed business dealings were as a result of an agreement with one of the country's largest banks.

Late yesterday afternoon, the former owner of Breakfree Resorts launched a civil action in the Supreme Court of Queensland through his family company, AKS Investments Pty Ltd.

HER DERRR BATFINK WAH WAH WAH....USUAL DRIBBLE AND SHITE......GETS VERY TIRING AND BORING....

Fundamental freedoms? :lol: You're a crack up. Try telling those two poor folks who got their heads blown off there is no problem.

If you don't believe I'm that far left of centre let me know and I'll happily retract the statement.

According to the site i am ideologically closer to the Greens than the Liberal party, so thats how we know the tool is utterly fucked.

Or maybe your beliefs are :lol:

-PB

Was Gillard closer than you to the Liberal party too?

Apparently

I told you people would be surprised. I'm in the green "left libertarian" or social democrat square.

surprise surprise




Edited by batfink: 20/12/2014 09:34:40 AM

Edited by batfink: 20/12/2014 09:35:08 AM

I would have thought that you would end up somewhere closer to the Libertarian line.

Also, I'm further to the centre on the left/right scale than you are. You dirty socialist ;)

how much accuracy do you place on that survey....some questions were a little ambiguous