Renting out Telstra's shitty copper for the next 30 years for 100 Billion. lol.



http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2015/3/19/technology/nbn-fibre-cost-shock

Edited by damonzzzz: 19/3/2015 10:54:04 PM

Yep it's a disgrace.
cheaper
sooner
better

Lining the pockets of Telstra ✓

pretty much

...and they want to be famous for it

NBN Co isn't paying $100 Billion to Telstra to acquire and maintain the copper network. :lol: Man the shit you guys make up.

Did you read the article? It's incredulous that author baulks at the prospect of people have to fork out a few hundred bucks for a FOD design quote, arguing that FOD is merely a political stunt, yet the same FTTP zealots have no qualms about spending $70 billion of taxpayers dollars.

Everyone who really wants FTTP and believes in the magical benefits it will deliver, if they are sincere about it, can buy their own fucking connection, and not rely on the taxpayer to feed their bandwidth lust.

So you're saying 2.4mbps upload is fine??? Try uploading large files to any cloud based service or uploading HD videos on YouTube.



Mate i could do that right now if i wanted to with my 120mbps down cable connection.


Edited by griffindinho: 20/3/2015 12:24:54 AM

Bandwidth lust :lol:

-PB

The 2.4mbps is an artificial constraint set by Telstra, with the fraudband NBN they'll upgrade some of the backend hardware to upgrade the capacity and also tweak the bandwidth limits to offer the same as the best case FTTN offering (100Mbps down and 40Mbps up). The real issue with the cable solution is whether they'll really invest the dollars to make the contention acceptable. I'll wait and see...

Cable users will be second class citizens under the current plans, far better than those on FTTN or fixed wireless. The real issue though is we the tax payer are paying as much as we were before for a worse solution that won't be delivered quicker.

Edited by mcjules: 20/3/2015 08:42:04 AM

I have a 100/100 connection at work through Telstra, shit costs fucking insane amounts of money.

-PB

My work has a 10Gbps/10Gbps fibre link through AARNET, it ain't cheap either but at least a lot of the stuff that the universities use has been set up so that it's unmetered. Including Amazon AWS so a lot of us bring a usb hdd in to upload our home backups to the cloud. Few hundred gig is done in minutes, so good!

Yeah, thats what i hate about telstra. I remember when they first installed ADSL they capped it at 1500/256 lol.


I heard they're looking at upgrading the HFC network to DOCSIS 3.1. Comcast are testing it now in the states and will be available next year to residential customers.


Edited by griffindinho: 20/3/2015 11:12:06 AM

Can you explain to me how spending $70 billion + taxpayers money so folks like yourself can upload large HD videos to youtube is in the public interest? How you would argue that is money better spent than on schools and hospitals?

Nevertheless the cable upgrades NBN are doing to the network will provide far better upload speeds, even FTTN will do a good job.




Exactly, the cable network works just fine and there's no reason to waste billions of dollars overbuilding it with optic fibre.

Edited by rusty: 21/3/2015 10:21:17 AM

Because a lot of what schools require now are good internet connections lol.

-PB

Schools require good halls and libraries as well

Thank goodness for Julia Gillard.

Yes she was a marvellous inventor

Rusty can you be even more miserable .

What? I'm very positive about the MTM NBN, can't wait for my 50mbps fibre to the gnarly. Unlike some who are suicidal that the the taxpayer won't be paying for them to get fibre all the way to the porn streaming.

Edited by rusty: 21/3/2015 09:05:06 PM

Good halls I can agree with but not libraries as such.

The paradigm shift to e-book libraries is well under way.

-PB

Paradigm shift to e-book libraries :lol:

As someone who has been to university ands family is full of educators at different levels, libraries have never been less relevant. Any research or journal article you need is generally available online. They will also only become less relevant.

But since you think the only use for improved Internet is porn streaming, which can already be done with the current infrastructure, just proves you have no relevance in this discussion.

I suppose university campuses and schools are becoming irrelevant too right? Ya know, with practically everything one needs to become educated being available at the click of a button, rather than in a classroom.

If you think e books are going to hands down replace libraries you need to get inspected for brain damage.

It's been proven many times. He has no idea about the technical issues with the current plan or the practical uses of the technology.

What's funny?

-PB

I'd be heavily interested to know your experience with school libraries lol.

-PB

I hear they're a good place to film porn

I bet you have.

I know that $70 billion + spent on a data network is a terrible waste of money

How so?? Arent you supposed to a be a coputer science graduate who works for telstra?? You cant even answer a simple question about the tech

He works for Telstra, not a computer science graduate.