Out of curiosity, what are the points that you agreed with in that post?

Thankyou. Glad somebody finally asked! I agree that:
1. The ABC are being influenced too strongly by the government and as a result don't defend themselves in situations like these when they should.
2. Zaky Mallah, while being a dickhead and someone I don't have time for is not the person the government and newscorp are portraying him to be
3. That some of these people trying to come back might actually end up being assets rather than liabilities though I think that can be hard to make a judgement on upfront.

Additionally regarding Q&A, I don't watch it anymore because Tony Jones has to keep things moving on constantly. There's too many panelists and too many questions. All you get is crackers level discussion (i.e. not worthwhile entertaining). Also do people really just want Dorothy Dixers throwing softballs at panelists? We have parliamentary question time for that.

:lol: McDunce was so rattled he couldnt see the woods for the trees

I wonder how many times you refreshed the page waiting for me to reply :lol:

You're projecting McDunce :-$

I'm in awe of how many variations of "I know you are but what am I?" you remember. Bravo. Now over to you to get the last word in ;)

Good ole Dill shorten and his union days eh....and now admitting lying about the Gillard/Rudd stosh........what a bloody dudd

Yep certainly a dud politician if he admits he lied or did something wrong. He should take a leaf out of the torie playbook and never admit to anything. He's trying to be them anyway.

Agreed! News agencies like the ABC should say what they want and report cold hard facts and unfiltered opinions. Just because they are government funded does not and should not mean that they become puppets.




In some of the quotes I read on News.com.au all he was doing was blaming the Abbott government for radicalisation. His interview on the Project was also similar. He seems to be a confused man with the inability to take responsibility for his actions or the actions of other radicalised youths.



I'm 50/50 on this one. While yes, I agree, I don't think it's quite so black and white. Could you imagine the shitstorm if even one of them came back and then regressed/gained more followers for ISIL.

anyone who is comfortable with the relationship between unions and the ALP and all the dodgey donations and corrupt dealings is delusional.......the sooner they cut ties or sort the grubs out the better...

This will never happen. We have this Ying/Yang government system where Labor is blue collar and LNP is white collar. Labor is a Union puppet and LNP is a big business puppet.
They can try to pretend they are not and in the case on our worst PM tell us they are Tony's tradies #-o but the reality is the same.

The real leadership needs to be somewhere in the middle, a stupid notion of representing all of Australia.

Yep every political party is influenced by various lobbying groups. I agree though that while the unions do have a place in a true Labor party, their influence is far too stretching. For example, social issues should be none of their concern.

That's a bit harsh on Waleed, don't you think?

The alp should dissociate itself from the unions but can still be a workers party. And it needs to get rid of the cfmeu pronto. As a former member of the "militant union" I prefer the union stick to things it knows

I meant the bloke Waleed interviewed. I Like Waleed Aly.

Yep pretty much agree with all of it. Both the government and newscorp have been trying to portray him as an ISIS supporter. I think the way he said it on Q&A was stupid and he should have acknowledged that but why does he need to take responsibility for other radicalised youth?

I knew who you meant, I was being silly.

On another note, I agree that Labor has to either go back to its' roots and represent a true alternative for the voters, or if they're happy to be as centrist as possible then they need to dilute their Union ties all they can.

If he's speaking for the radicalised youth on their behalf then he surely has to respond to questions on responsibility?

"I want to say publicly thank you to the ABC." - Tony Abbott, 17 June, 2015.

"The ABC needs to take a long hard look at itself." - Tony Abbott, 23 June, 2015.

I think he should respond to questions on responsibility with the answer "No I'm not responsible for other radicalised youth". His comment though poorly worded (and he acknowledged that on the project) was that the governments actions are further marginalising people that already feel pushed out to go. You can disagree with that statement (though I think there's definitely some truth to it) but that's not personally encouraging people to go fight for ISIS.

You know that in my severe white privilege I find blaming the government for social issues as apologetic at best :lol:

Abbott to announce an inquiry into the abc. Long overdue

why? Howard did the same thing and it was found the abc isnt biased. But the lnp will always find something wrong with tbe public broadcaster due to murdoch . He done the same thing in england and failed and has done it in america and failed

You want more than a one line response from lukerobinho? :lol:

The inquiry will be stacked to get the outcome they want but they'll find it politically unpalatable to make of any changes they really want.

Of course :lol:

What's to inquire about? :lol:

-PB

oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM

You know ricey people do have free thought. And here I thought you said you arent the tyoe to pick a side in politics.

who says I'm picking a side?

you people cheerlead the ABC because you think it represents your team and provides you with facts

I've got a bridge to sell you

News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB