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sydneycroatia58 wrote:So no front benchers allowed on Q&A according to Tone. Be interesting to see what Turnbull does next week. The LNP don't like scrutiny, so avoid the ABC and label it biased. Pretty sad how they & their vast support cast in the media were all singing from the same hymn book over the last 2 weeks on the Zaky Mallah issue. A clearly symbiotic relationship. On balance, I think this will play into Labor's hands, as it will give them a 'free ride'. Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 6/7/2015 03:31:17 AM
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It seems the low hanging fruit of fear mongering isn't working for the LNP. Now we have another edition of Go Back To Where You Came From to benefit The Greens vote (who are now polling a whopping 16% primary). Cheers SBS. Would have preferred it closer to the election though! Considering that this is the worst first term government in polling history, I am interested to see the comparative level of broken promises between governments when Labor gets in power next year.
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Good God we don't need the Greens getting support. We'll end up like Greece.
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benelsmore wrote:Good God we don't need the Greens getting support. We'll end up like Greece. Libs have doubled the deficit in one year lol, we're already on our way. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:benelsmore wrote:Good God we don't need the Greens getting support. We'll end up like Greece. Libs have doubled the deficit in one year lol, we're already on our way. -PB what debt crisis?????
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batfink wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:benelsmore wrote:Good God we don't need the Greens getting support. We'll end up like Greece. Libs have doubled the deficit in one year lol, we're already on our way. -PB what debt crisis????? =d> Exactly. We'll never "end up like Greece" because our government is in control of the currency. We could become like Venezuela if the government spent recklessly though. In my opinion the government is spending recklessly (as in on things that do nothing/little to help increase productive capacity) but only enough to keep inflation within acceptable bounds.
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paulbagzFC wrote:benelsmore wrote:Good God we don't need the Greens getting support. We'll end up like Greece. Libs have doubled the deficit in one year lol, we're already on our way. -PB Yeh but the Greens will end up telling us that they're paying it off. However, their miracle plan will be to reach into the pocket of everyone with a bit of coin. What is happening in Greece is complete and utter stupidity. They're essentially refusing to change the way they operate to protect their unsustainable lifestyle and are telling the people they owe money to that they're the ones in the wrong :lol: It's like hang on "Suncorp, I want my house but f*ck off with your mortgage repayments I want to live how I want to live". So irresponsible. Every socialist moron in Australia should take note of what's happening and stop their mindless rhetoric.
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Cant the rich people just pay more!
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The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing. Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM
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mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol:
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benelsmore wrote:mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol: Surely there's more to life than working for 50+ years and then retiring at 70? The problem was not socialism in Greece it was pure and simply the non-payment or collection of taxes.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol: Surely there's more to life than working for 50+ years and then retiring at 70? The problem was not socialism in Greece it was pure and simply the non-payment or collection of taxes. From what I've seen it's that in combination with people retiring far too early creating a welfare state. Sounds like an extreme version of Australia :p
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Also anyone with shares right now, thank Greece for their stupidity. The 10% your shares probably just lost is a direct result of their idiocy.
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benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol: Surely there's more to life than working for 50+ years and then retiring at 70? The problem was not socialism in Greece it was pure and simply the non-payment or collection of taxes. From what I've seen it's that in combination with people retiring far too early creating a welfare state. Sounds like an extreme version of Australia :p Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier? I mean my kids are supposed to work until they're 70! How anyone in a blue collar job (or any field) is supposed get a new job when they're 63 or so and made redundant is beyond me.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol: Surely there's more to life than working for 50+ years and then retiring at 70? The problem was not socialism in Greece it was pure and simply the non-payment or collection of taxes. From what I've seen it's that in combination with people retiring far too early creating a welfare state. Sounds like an extreme version of Australia :p Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier? I mean my kids are supposed to work until they're 70! How anyone in a blue collar job (or any field) is supposed get a new job when they're 63 or so and made redundant is beyond me. Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? No way in hell i'll be lifting the gear I do now up hill's when I'm 50 let alone 70.
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benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol: Surely there's more to life than working for 50+ years and then retiring at 70? The problem was not socialism in Greece it was pure and simply the non-payment or collection of taxes. From what I've seen it's that in combination with people retiring far too early creating a welfare state. Sounds like an extreme version of Australia :p Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier? I mean my kids are supposed to work until they're 70! How anyone in a blue collar job (or any field) is supposed get a new job when they're 63 or so and made redundant is beyond me. Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? No way in hell i'll be lifting the gear I do now up hill's when I'm 50 let alone 70. It was supposed to go to 12% but a certain government we're not supposed to criticise froze it at 9.5%. Super is only part of the solution, many people will outlive what they've been able to save.
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benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote: Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier?
Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? That's not what I asked.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote: Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier?
Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? That's not what I asked. I'd rather pay more tax and retire earlier, as would most people. However, I doubt paying more tax would allow such a thing. Hence why I didn't directly respond to the question.
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mcjules wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:mcjules wrote:The sooner people start to see taxation as a way to destroy some money in the economy to prevent inflation the better. Your taxes pay for nothing.
Edited by mcjules: 6/7/2015 10:19:56 AM My taxes pay for plebs to pump out kids they can't afford :lol: Surely there's more to life than working for 50+ years and then retiring at 70? The problem was not socialism in Greece it was pure and simply the non-payment or collection of taxes. From what I've seen it's that in combination with people retiring far too early creating a welfare state. Sounds like an extreme version of Australia :p Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier? I mean my kids are supposed to work until they're 70! How anyone in a blue collar job (or any field) is supposed get a new job when they're 63 or so and made redundant is beyond me. Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? No way in hell i'll be lifting the gear I do now up hill's when I'm 50 let alone 70. It was supposed to go to 12% but a certain government we're not supposed to criticise froze it at 9.5%. Super is only part of the solution, many people will outlive what they've been able to save. Pretty much. I'm exceptionally fortunate to have a well paying job. In 3 years I've got triple what the mrs has in super. I do commend the initiative to reduce dependence on the government to support retirees. The current system is a shambles where they're paid below the cost of living in many cases. Any measures to make people at least partly responsible for their own welfare is progress.
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benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote: Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier?
Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? That's not what I asked. I'd rather pay more tax and retire earlier That's Ok. Me too. Just wanted to see, philosophically, where you were at. benelsmore wrote: as would most people. Not so sure about that though. benelsmore wrote:However, I doubt paying more tax would allow such a thing. Maybe, maybe not.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:benelsmore wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote: Irrespective of the welfare state, bludgers, single mothers, refugees etc wouldn't you, as a general principle, rather pay more taxes now and retire earlier?
Well that's why we have a 12% super contribution right? That's not what I asked. I'd rather pay more tax and retire earlier That's Ok. Me too. Just wanted to see, philosophically, where you were at. benelsmore wrote: as would most people. Not so sure about that though. benelsmore wrote:However, I doubt paying more tax would allow such a thing. Maybe, maybe not. Old Tone' would take our tax $$ and find some bullsh*t scheme to spend it on.
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paulbagzFC wrote:benelsmore wrote:Good God we don't need the Greens getting support. We'll end up like Greece. Libs have doubled the deficit in one year lol, we're already on our way. -PB "The budget will be in surplus in the first year of a Liberal government" - Joe Hockey March 2013 "The economy will always be better managed under a Liberal government" - Tony Abbott ad nauseum prior to election
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Check out this fat lying peice of shit
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Fourfiveone wrote:Check out this fat lying peice of shit  Going grey from the cubans. -PB
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FMD he is an embarrassment.
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Fourfiveone wrote:Check out this fat lying peice of shit  "Labor's mess" take 2465980674520937642098326.
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:lol: fuck me the lnp are slowly trying to make themselves more buffonish
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Can we have a true oppostion party instead of a lib lite?? Fuck me .
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Where did Rusty and Batfink go? Finally too embarrassed to barrack for their team? remember 50 odd pages ago when they smugly told us the adults were in charge now :lol:
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