But it doesn't lol... or people wouldn't be buying drugs all the time.

My proposal is give people the freedom to make their own informed choices.

If you make something forbidden, people will want it even more.

You're a man of God, remember the Apple in the Garden of Eden?

-PB

So you propose to legalize it and make it easier for a lot more people to take them?

It clearly does dissuade people. Just because you are saying people are still taking drugs is no indication in the slightest that tough laws don't act as a dissinsentive to the majority of people because it does.

Exactly. The best way to persuade people not to take drugs is to make them more easily and readily accessible and then educate them on now to use them in safe quantities.  

Its all of those addictive compounds that the leftist snowflake illuninati are putting in the drugs to control the population. 

I blame Obama for some reason..

Illegal or legal, people will still take them.

The threat of jail time and death is clearly not persuading people.

-PB

Stop pretending to be the knowing rationalist when you blatantly disregard the right parietal lobe of the brain itself.

https://www.livescience.com/5237-spirituality-spot-brain.html

You are also calling for the legalization of dangerous narcotics.

Do you reckon he thinks the Earth is flat too? My money is on yes. 

That's what I mean about the Greens and Left wanting drugs to be legal.

Part of the socialist manifesto is to also isolate the masses where they have no support - which means that the masses can be controlled.

The biggest enemy to Socialism and Communism is Christianity. In the Soviet Union, the Communists persecuted The Orthodox Church. Today, the Orthodox Church is in a resurgent renaissance under Putin.

Which nationality is he pretending to be? Greek/Maltese? 

Yep. Apparently  lefties are snowflakes . 

The ramblings of a schizo

7 posts in a row, old mate got triggered. 


Ironically enough, experimenting with psychedelics made me a more spiritual and compassionate person. You appreciate the oneness and contentedness in everything. Of course it sounds like utter nonsense if you've never tried it yourself, but I suggest you give it a go Aikhme. You'd be less of a cvnt of a human being. 

  It was interesting that thing you said about them wanting kids all drugged and fucked up so they can destroy the family unit and achieve greater reliance on government services, not sure I agree but never thought about it that way before.

Mostly I think the Greens and Left generally want more drugs because they think they are a gateway to a heightened intellectual state of mind and will make people more impressionable to their socialist ideas, whereas most people when sober just see it as fruity ideological vomit.

Very well put.

Totally agree that legalizing drugs means normalizing their use like tobacco and alcohol.

That will come at a much heavier cost to our society and young ones than anything else and this will cause so much mental illness and even suicide and death.

Their argument is simplistic to say the least.

Because they don't have support and do not lead lives in tune with the spiritual world.

There is a reason why Drug and Alcohol abuse is on the rise and it's usually because today's society is a materialistic and non spiritual world which has zero focus on the mental well being of the individual.

Science has proven that part of our brains is for spirituality. Today, it's the most neglected body part so people seek a replacement.

Again, it's extremely unlikely but let's say it happens. The entire family and our entire support infrastructure closes in and protects.

We are not like you. Our families have money and we marry people in our class or above. We don't allow undisciplined people into our families. If you are not well heeled then you don't belong. Our culture is thousands of years old and we won't be dictated to by others.

We are a bit like Jewish families. If you are not one of us, then you don't belong in our networks. It's possible to get in but you have to demonstrate discipline.

Our tradies are one of us. Our accountants are one of us. Our money stays within our circles to enrich us.

And we expect the same in return.

Sure it's not a bad thing.

But these kids are grounded right and our culture is a disciplined culture. We are well controlled and conservative.

Not much chance of that I'm sorry.

You need to understand that there are 2 worlds at play here and one is the rational world but this is where your expertise stops and it is very sad.

This generation is the generation that refuses to accept responsibility or be responsible for the consequences of our decisions. Legalizing drugs will only solve a couple of very shortsighted things, such as freeing the courts up and police resources, but what it will also do is make acquisition and supply of dangerous narcotics to all our children easier and give them the impression that it is now legal and ok to use these substances, when it is not.

The result, a further degradation of their psychology, more mental illness in society and schizophrenia and other illnesses, and more OD and suicide.

We are a very close family so no they don't hate me and not only that but they are very strong kids with great psychology because they have all the emotional support possible, including a spiritual father they can approach to talk to about anything including the parents. We as parents are only caretakers of these children, we don't own them or their spirits.

If they feel down, they call their Spiritual father if they can't talk to me or their Mum and we are happy for this.

Mental Health is the greatest pandemic in this day and age and it is literally killing hundreds of people. Suicide in our religion, if you have a spiritual attachment to the tenets, is virtually negligible and our people are more happy and have less stress.

"May God give me the strength to accept the things I can't change, and the strength and will to try and change the things I can, and may He grant me the wisdom to know the difference"

Why do people take drugs? Why do people wish to alter their consciousness somewhat? Why do people escape from themselves every day in a myriad of ways?  People have been doing this sort of thing for about 5,000 years.  There is no answer however it's obvious that blanket prohibition has been a complete & utter failure. We are now at the point that without the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of drug money which touches every single financial aspect of all societies & cultures that world's economy would collapse.  

The problem with the drug war is that people are looking at it in terms of absolutes.  For instance because we have failed to totally eradicate drugs from society and spend billions every year trying to control its production and distribution, they will say that the war on drugs has totally failed.  Therefore they will pivot and say that the solution to the problem is to end the prohibition of drugs, that is the simple fix that will make the world a better place.

However isn’t it feasible that if you end prohibition on something, then that something will become more widely accepted and used? Isn’t that what happened with tobacco and alcohol?  So while the direct costs of enforcing drug policy may be reduced or eradicated altogether, have you considered the indirect costs of increased addiction,  violent crime, suicide, mental illness, homelessness , unemployment etc and all the extra funding needed to roll out programs and train people to manage these conditions?  So while you may end up saving money in one area, you may end up opening a bigger can of worms that is more socially and economically costly than the previous situation.

I’m not sure what the empirical evidence says but I know that Netherlands has drastically tightened its drug policy from the early 2000s and that Amsterdam is a mecca for drug related organised crime and corruption, so the idea that you can just rip the band aid off and everything will work out totally fine has also failed.

Rather than seeing the drug war as something that can be won or lost it should be viewed in terms of its ability to manage and control the risk and damage to society caused by harmful substances.  IMO education won’t do diddly as there is a very fine line between responsible usage and full blown addiction or overdose, so it seems to me the current strategy that using laws to minimise the amount of something harmful in society is the best policy.

https://youtu.be/wJUXLqNHCaI

Really interesting take on the subject. 

on the subject
I support what was set up regards the Sydney Injection room at the X.
The below confirms its results which is great to see, X needing a massive cleaning up prior to the lock out laws introduced but I wonder where else a % of them have gone as well incl the crimes.....which burbs copped the fall out/shift.
Interesting stats :
+ over 15,300 people have registered to use the centre since opening.
Wonder the breakdown areas they come from.
+ more than 12,000 referrals have been made to external health and social welfare services.
Quoting referrals is one thing, wonder how many of the 12000 actually went and kept going to the support offered or the % of success.
https://adf.org.au/insights/medically-supervised-injecting-centres/
Legalising is a damned if you do damned if you don't for me at this stage.
Crime organisations as mentioned have been ahead of the police and Govs for decades, all legalising will do is slow down use regards x substances and new trendy ones will be developed, cartels will find another way or products, imo there is no win win, back then now and future.
Young/old people inclined can't help trying something out for the sake of the extra good time to some, this will never change.
Overall % of substance users who either don't grow up or keep at it harm themselves more than they wish to care and effect their families.......real sad, they are the pawns making cartels dollars they'll never disappear by legalising anything.

The irony of all these media companies like News Corp having a whinge at the same Government that they did everything they could to return to power.

Top fucking kek.

-PB

Of course.  Understood.  Would also be funny if one of his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy.

I certainly didn't mean it as a bad thing. 

Moronflorugue would see it that way though, hence my comment.

Sort of implies that's a bad thing.  (Unintended I'm sure or my misreading.)

I get the point you're making though.  Would be good to see his head explode.  

I hope one of your kids end up being gay.

Why bother responding  to the idiot.  He is just here to troll.