The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


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I don't think debt levels would get anywhere near 50% under either party.

I think you overstate turnbull's ability to impose too much spending on his own cabinet without tax reform to increase tax take.
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The reclaim group wants to mark the 10 year anniversary of the cronulla riots

Sure, why not? We are in total contempt of each other

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Condemned666 wrote:
The reclaim group wants to mark the 10 year anniversary of the cronulla riots

Sure, why not? We are in total contempt of each other

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Leftards mobilize. Only eco-warriors have a right to protest!
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Pedantry aside, the point being is: you grew up fishing on the weekends, you watched Friends, Seinfeld, you watched cricket and whatever winter football code it is on the weekend

And these new migrants come in with nothing to do with any of that? And theres some expectation for them to all blend in? Like theres some sense of common ground for which to all be together? Multiculturalism?
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Why are people still caring about that fuckwit?

He's a backbencher ffs.

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Condemned666 wrote:

Pedantry aside, the point being is: you grew up fishing on the weekends, you watched Friends, Seinfeld, you watched cricket and whatever winter football code it is on the weekend

And these new migrants come in with nothing to do with any of that? And theres some expectation for them to all blend in? Like theres some sense of common ground for which to all be together? Multiculturalism?


In reality we are made to feel shit far too often for simply living our lives. Its as if we're meant to just lay down and change how we live our lives to suit everyone else and their draconian religious beliefs (not directed solely at muslims).

I feel that the way we live our lives should not adversely affect anyone. If the common way of life in a country adversely affects you, find one that better suits you. I would not move to Dubai for this reason, they have blasphemy laws, I'm a blasphemer :lol:
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BETHFC wrote:
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Pedantry aside, the point being is: you grew up fishing on the weekends, you watched Friends, Seinfeld, you watched cricket and whatever winter football code it is on the weekend

And these new migrants come in with nothing to do with any of that? And theres some expectation for them to all blend in? Like theres some sense of common ground for which to all be together? Multiculturalism?


In reality we are made to feel shit far too often for simply living our lives. Its as if we're meant to just lay down and change how we live our lives to suit everyone else and their draconian religious beliefs (not directed solely at muslims).

I feel that the way we live our lives should not adversely affect anyone. If the common way of life in a country adversely affects you, find one that better suits you. I would not move to Dubai for this reason, they have blasphemy laws, I'm a blasphemer :lol:


The counterpoint to your argument, and heres wheres its fucked*:

Its the belief coming to Australia and not Dubai or wherever else which suits that way of life but coming to Australia means your life will be better (??)

Not supporting the national cricket team, watching US tv shows and talking about it all day, or even childish name calling in public schools

Its just coming here
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Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.
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trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


YOUR WAY OF LIFE is watching Friends, Breaking Bad, the AFL team, supporting the national cricket team, going to gigs

The thing is: Theres worst things than being caught up than that.

So, go with it!

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Condemned666 wrote:
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Pedantry aside, the point being is: you grew up fishing on the weekends, you watched Friends, Seinfeld, you watched cricket and whatever winter football code it is on the weekend

And these new migrants come in with nothing to do with any of that? And theres some expectation for them to all blend in? Like theres some sense of common ground for which to all be together? Multiculturalism?


In reality we are made to feel shit far too often for simply living our lives. Its as if we're meant to just lay down and change how we live our lives to suit everyone else and their draconian religious beliefs (not directed solely at muslims).

I feel that the way we live our lives should not adversely affect anyone. If the common way of life in a country adversely affects you, find one that better suits you. I would not move to Dubai for this reason, they have blasphemy laws, I'm a blasphemer :lol:


The counterpoint to your argument, and heres wheres its fucked*:

Its the belief coming to Australia and not Dubai or wherever else which suits that way of life but coming to Australia means your life will be better (??)

Not supporting the national cricket team, watching US tv shows and talking about it all day, or even childish name calling in public schools

Its just coming here


Perhaps I didn't say that well. I don't know if it is better here. What I am saying is that we have managed to live (for the most part) with our laws and culture and what not for the best part of 100 years. Why would we go out of our way to affect our lives for a small percentage of the population?
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trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


:lol: oh Ricey, a SFC avatar doesn't make you any less of a mindless drone.
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trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


Also typical leftard bullshit. Belittle a way of life that you adhere to just to show how worldly you are.

Doesn't cut it in the real world, go back to being a university socialist with 10 years worth of useless university degrees and fuck all jobs prospects. :lol:
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trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


How the fuck is that bigotry? :lol: ](*,)

It's amazing how completely benign statements like "team Australia" and "western culture" are conflated with white supremacist KKK inspired nazi racism yet everyone is aboard the black power, black pride, fuck white people bandwagon. Not you're not even allowed to be white and pride, black privilege I suppose.
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rusty wrote:
trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


How the fuck is that bigotry? :lol: ](*,)

It's amazing how completely benign statements like "team Australia" and "western culture" are conflated with white supremacist KKK inspired nazi racism yet everyone is aboard the black power, black pride, fuck white people bandwagon. Not you're not even allowed to be white and pride, black privilege I suppose.


I've never had an issue with celebrating my white Irish or French heritage. I even made the front page on St Pats day one year with a smile on my face.
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2015 in ABC soundbytes

Heres some left-winged babble babble

Most significant event? Letting in asylum seekers of Christian origin from the middle east



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BETHFC wrote:
[quote=trident]Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


Also typical leftard bullshit. Belittle a way of life that you adhere to just to show how worldly you are.

[size=9]100% accurate appraisal [/size]



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Condemned666 wrote:
2015 in ABC soundbytes

Heres some left-winged babble babble

Most significant event? Letting in asylum seekers of Christian origin from the middle east


You're posts are always so over the place.

Have no clue what you're on about 99% the time.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
Condemned666 wrote:
2015 in ABC soundbytes

Heres some left-winged babble babble

Most significant event? Letting in asylum seekers of Christian origin from the middle east


You're posts are always so over the place.

Have no clue what you're on about 99% the time.

-PB

:lol: Like I've said before, I'd love to sit down and have a beer with him

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.

Or the dog whistling of 'team Australia'

Anyway, psychological/sociological research supports your views.
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BETHFC wrote:
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BETHFC wrote:
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Pedantry aside, the point being is: you grew up fishing on the weekends, you watched Friends, Seinfeld, you watched cricket and whatever winter football code it is on the weekend

And these new migrants come in with nothing to do with any of that? And theres some expectation for them to all blend in? Like theres some sense of common ground for which to all be together? Multiculturalism?


In reality we are made to feel shit far too often for simply living our lives. Its as if we're meant to just lay down and change how we live our lives to suit everyone else and their draconian religious beliefs (not directed solely at muslims).

I feel that the way we live our lives should not adversely affect anyone. If the common way of life in a country adversely affects you, find one that better suits you. I would not move to Dubai for this reason, they have blasphemy laws, I'm a blasphemer :lol:


The counterpoint to your argument, and heres wheres its fucked*:

Its the belief coming to Australia and not Dubai or wherever else which suits that way of life but coming to Australia means your life will be better (??)

Not supporting the national cricket team, watching US tv shows and talking about it all day, or even childish name calling in public schools

Its just coming here


Perhaps I didn't say that well. I don't know if it is better here. What I am saying is that we have managed to live (for the most part) with our laws and culture and what not for the best part of 100 years. Why would we go out of our way to affect our lives for a small percentage of the population?


Except that isn't strictly speaking true. Someone who was 25 years old 100 years ago would find Australian "law and culture" unrecognisable today. In fact, ironically, they would be much closer culturally with the conservative religious element.

100 years ago people will still murdering aborigines with impunity, women were unable to work after marriage, and were banned form many industries, catholics (particularly Irish) were regarded with extreme suspicion, and were largely locked out from the halls of power in many places.

The fact is culture and law are not stagnant, they evolve, and will continue to evolve.
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rusty wrote:
trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


How the fuck is that bigotry? :lol: ](*,)

It's amazing how completely benign statements like "team Australia" and "western culture" are conflated with white supremacist KKK inspired nazi racism yet everyone is aboard the black power, black pride, fuck white people bandwagon. Not you're not even allowed to be white and pride, black privilege I suppose.


Who defines what counts as Australian culture?

My father emigrated here from Italy in the 1960s and he was certainly regarded as being outside the acceptable mainstream culture at the time. He was Catholic, didn't speak English, and didn't eat the local food much.

He wouldn't have been regarded as part of "Team Australia" or "western (at that time defined as british) culture".

Yet over time Australia has changed, and Italian culture is well and truly embedded within Australian culture.

The issue is not "Team Australia" per se, its the point Abbott was clearly making - YOU (the other), need to be more like US. That is the issue - it goes beyond the obvious point about helping to address issues like radicalisation, to a point which is that if you look a certain way, and speak a certain way, then you are not really Australian, regardless of whether you were born here, or whether you have engaged in any illegal behaviour.
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AzzaMarch wrote:

Except that isn't strictly speaking true. Someone who was 25 years old 100 years ago would find Australian "law and culture" unrecognisable today. In fact, ironically, they would be much closer culturally with the conservative religious element.


Yeh except it's the wrong religion ;)

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100 years ago people will still murdering aborigines with impunity, women were unable to work after marriage, and were banned form many industries, catholics (particularly Irish) were regarded with extreme suspicion, and were largely locked out from the halls of power in many places.


Of course, we are coming away from religious dogma. Why would we open ourselves up to bringing it back in?

AzzaMarch wrote:

The fact is culture and law are not stagnant, they evolve, and will continue to evolve.


Of course they do.

However, why make religious concessions when our laws have evolved (mostly positively) by removing religion?
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BETHFC wrote:

Of course they do.

However, why make religious concessions when our laws have evolved (mostly positively) by removing religion?


Rubbish

Christianity is the religion that permits atheism in the first place



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Antifa.

A supposed anti-fascist group who promote their ideas by being fascist and authoritarian.

Interesting.
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Condemned666 wrote:
BETHFC wrote:

Of course they do.

However, why make religious concessions when our laws have evolved (mostly positively) by removing religion?


Rubbish

Christianity is the religion that permits atheism in the first place



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What does this even mean?
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Antifa.

A supposed anti-fascist group who promote their ideas by being fascist and authoritarian.

Interesting.


Checked out their FB page. Hilariously deranged they are!
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mcjules wrote:
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2015 in ABC soundbytes

Heres some left-winged babble babble

Most significant event? Letting in asylum seekers of Christian origin from the middle east


You're posts are always so over the place.

Have no clue what you're on about 99% the time.

-PB

:lol: Like I've said before, I'd love to sit down and have a beer with him

I'm confident he is brick tamland.

I bet he's a mad cnut.
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trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.

One day you will find your own voice.
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AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
trident wrote:
Right wingers are always inventing new excuses for their inherent bigotry.
"Our" way of life and "our western culture" are some of their recent favourites.


How the fuck is that bigotry? :lol: ](*,)

It's amazing how completely benign statements like "team Australia" and "western culture" are conflated with white supremacist KKK inspired nazi racism yet everyone is aboard the black power, black pride, fuck white people bandwagon. Not you're not even allowed to be white and pride, black privilege I suppose.


Who defines what counts as Australian culture?

My father emigrated here from Italy in the 1960s and he was certainly regarded as being outside the acceptable mainstream culture at the time. He was Catholic, didn't speak English, and didn't eat the local food much.

He wouldn't have been regarded as part of "Team Australia" or "western (at that time defined as british) culture".

Yet over time Australia has changed, and Italian culture is well and truly embedded within Australian culture.

The issue is not "Team Australia" per se, its the point Abbott was clearly making - YOU (the other), need to be more like US. That is the issue - it goes beyond the obvious point about helping to address issues like radicalisation, to a point which is that if you look a certain way, and speak a certain way, then you are not really Australian, regardless of whether you were born here, or whether you have engaged in any illegal behaviour.


What incredulous waffle. At one what point did Abbott, say, or even hint, any of that? Ridiculous, cheesy, absurd allegations. I bet the mentality of joining "team Australia" existed around the time of your daddy, did he react by strapping explosives to himself or did he do what most of the Italian community did and join team Australia? The amount of paranoia and forensic analysis that goes into every utterance made by Tony is hysterical, I've never seen anything like it.

Every immigrant to Australia should join our team. In fact it should be mandatory, or you don't come here.
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