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grazorblade wrote:left wing click bait or not the unfortunate reality is that far left rags tend to be the only rags to give an occasional voice to the experience of the marginilized.
Its not much different to how far right rags were the only ones to talk about Christian persecution over the last century by muslims and communists (although missed violent persecution by hindus and bhuddists)
or how new age rags worshipping gaia were at one stage a decade or so ago taking scientists warnings about climate change seriously.
It is what it is and ultimately the content is more important than the rag. In this case the rag is writing an article from an aboriginal lady that seems consistent with what of aboriginals seem to be saying but doesn't get said in the media much That article is poorly written. In reading this article, I am lead to believe that only aboriginal prisoners deal with violence from police and correctional services. The only substance is several examples without any statistics showing that death rates among aboriginals are significantly higher than non-aboriginals. You would expect incidents of violence involving aboriginal people would be higher because they are incarcerated at a higher rate than non-aboriginals. That is a different issue altogether. Quote:Harrison Day, described as a “sober, harmless man” and an epileptic who was locked up for failing to pay fines, died on route to hospital in 1982. The article doesn't present any facts to explain his death. For someone like me unfamiliar with the case, he was brutally bashed to death by correctional officers while doing nothing wrong. Is this true? The article evokes emotions not reason. While the premise is ok, we are ignorant of the difficulties aboriginals in this country face, citing several incidents over an extended period of police violence against aboriginals does not support the headline. The report lacks data and this is what I find so frustrating about New Matilda. A few mates on facebook post their articles regarding the energy sector and fossil fuels and I've had to give up pointing out glaring mistakes throughout their articles. Edited by bethfc: 28/7/2016 02:47:59 PM
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most journalistic articles aren't exactly scientifically rigorous and are just a list of glorified anecdotes to support a premise so I think its harsh to pick on this article
One of the challenges marginilized groups face is having their experience and challenges even enter the national dialogue at all. African Americans have been complaining about police brutality for decades but only recently with the help of videos have they had some momentum in convincing white folk of their experiences (and even then not that much). To get their issues heard people require a higher level of academic rigor to issues that people with the tools to create such a rigor aren't even aware of, or minimally aware of at best. Given that it is so hard to learn about minority issues any information you can get is valuable (and ideally should lead to pressure for those who can to investigate the matter more deeply)
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batfink wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:Oh btw, you can't be sitting in glass houses throwing stones. I wouldn't be calling Greece xenophobic.
Yes there is a party called Golden Dawn and they did get about 3.5% of the vote and yes they are xenophobic and of the extreme right and probably fascist too. And yes, their supporters have done vulgar things.
But in Australia, you have One Nation. In France you have Le Pen! In the UK you have UKIP. Xenophobia is sweeping across Europe because people are under pressure. Austerity has hit hard and many are unemployed.
But they are hardly representative!
And I still wonder what Australia's excuse is. Because I am starting to scratch my head trying to find an EU country to knock Australia off its dizzy heights of gross HR violations against juveniles in custody. Can someone help? It is so sad that you continue attack the country that you live in. I have not been here many years, I suspect you have been here much longer than I??.... maybe your parents brought you here as a baby??? And yet you still talk about ' you Australians did this... you australians are racist....' I chose to come here as an adult and when I compare it places I have lived or my family lived in europe I am grateful everyday that I have left so much crap behind. But f modern Greek 'culture' suits you.... if the Greek economy looks a winner.....if you like the sound of a place that some American celebrities think is alright..... then just go! This country is using me for my qualifications. I am using it for the money. But let me give you the tip! If you were rich and had to choose between living between Australia or Greece, most people will pick Greece every time! But the time will come when I will take my super and bid Australia Antio! And I will never look back! The rich and famous, will always pick Greece every time! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:03:33 PM Ok, good luck to you and your partner and children if you have them - I hope you all find Greece to be a land of happiness and economic opportunity. Although if you are a big Apoel fan then why not try to Cyprus...have you been? Not so many Hollywood types but a nice change from Adelaide.... .....just as inbred and dull, but a little further back in time. Also the kebabs are better. You just have to put up with being permanently an outsider if you weren't born in the same village as everyone else's cousin! Thanks! My children will remain in Australia and they will visit every year at Daddy's expense. When they get married, I will come to Australia to pay for the wedding and buy them a house! Or I will have them fly over to Greece for a village wedding with 3000 guests where they will get enough money to buy 2 houses! I have a house in Cyprus 2. But I have always dreamed of Greece. This is the country of dreams. I'm not exaggerating at all. Greece is mythical. It is burst bueatiful. It is hard to describe. The people are hard to describe. Greece is a very special country. Believe me when I tell you. If I had you as my guest on the Ionian Coast, you would move there too if you did not have to work. It is a Mediterranean playground! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:34:39 PM I know the Ionian. I also know Cyprus. But I prefer Australia because of the people and the more integrated culture. You are right though, the Greek/Cypriot people are hard to describe :-k But I wont be too critical. I am very happy with my lot and in an interesting way I owe many of the opportunities I have had to that Cypriot man (whether I liked him or not). Edit: Thanks Memeboy, noted. Edited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:49:26 PMEdited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:52:12 PM Don't worry!u expect nothing else from you. Too many years in this country and you probably are an Anglo! Don't make me laugh about integration because there is not even an Australian culture or Australian food apart from what you stole! can't wait till you leave and we see the arse end of you....whinging sniveling wimp .....full of delusions of grandeur and hysterical nostalgia.......fuck off to your so called paradise and don't come back....suits us fine you stupid fuckstick Me neither bro! I cant wait either! Whingeing is an Anglo trait. Delusions of grandeur, another Anglo trait. 
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rusty wrote:You can tell aikhme was probably called a wog once and it cut him up so bad he's had an axe to grind ever since. Like most bitter people who feel rejected by this country he ignores all the beautiful parts such as our sunny beaches, strong economy , beautiful rainforests, tolerance for other races (as confirmed by the OECD) and targets our one supposed weakness which is culture, despite Australia being one of the most culturally rich diverse countries on the planet, compared to Greece's singular mono culture. You wont find too many anglo's upset about not having a national fonz dance or leaf hat as part of our dress code, we don't have time for that nonsense, too busy surfing, fishing, boating, winning gold medals, whatever tickles our fancy.
Straya is a top country aikhme, one of the best in fact. I'm not one to bleat on about how Australia is the best country in the world but if you were to list all of Australia's pros and cons and compare them with Greece we would wipe the floor with you. I can say proudly and objectively Australia is a better country than Greece, no amount of denigration of this beautiful land or faux nationalistic fist pumping for Greece will refute the facts. After all there has to be a reason Greece such a large international diaspora and Melbourne the second biggest Greek community outside of Athens :p Yes and I love Greece's singular mono-culture. You call yourself "diverse" because you got no culture of your own. Nothing worth protecting so you need to take from all of our cultures and call it your own. "Straya" isn't that great m*. You are just a number here. A cash cow. Greece always wipes the floor because Greece still has a sense of community, where everyone knows everyone, and actually cares and where families actually look after their children, elderly and celebrate life. The average Greek Citizen is far more happier than Australians and they have 2.5 years more life expectancy. That say's it all! Oh, and the worlds elites, rich, singers and movie stars always invariably will choose Greece over Australia to park up their $300 million dollar luxury yachts as well as buy property in Greece. Edited by Aikhme: 28/7/2016 05:30:53 PM
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luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:Oh btw, you can't be sitting in glass houses throwing stones. I wouldn't be calling Greece xenophobic.
Yes there is a party called Golden Dawn and they did get about 3.5% of the vote and yes they are xenophobic and of the extreme right and probably fascist too. And yes, their supporters have done vulgar things.
But in Australia, you have One Nation. In France you have Le Pen! In the UK you have UKIP. Xenophobia is sweeping across Europe because people are under pressure. Austerity has hit hard and many are unemployed.
But they are hardly representative!
And I still wonder what Australia's excuse is. Because I am starting to scratch my head trying to find an EU country to knock Australia off its dizzy heights of gross HR violations against juveniles in custody. Can someone help? It is so sad that you continue attack the country that you live in. I have not been here many years, I suspect you have been here much longer than I??.... maybe your parents brought you here as a baby??? And yet you still talk about ' you Australians did this... you australians are racist....' I chose to come here as an adult and when I compare it places I have lived or my family lived in europe I am grateful everyday that I have left so much crap behind. But f modern Greek 'culture' suits you.... if the Greek economy looks a winner.....if you like the sound of a place that some American celebrities think is alright..... then just go! This country is using me for my qualifications. I am using it for the money. But let me give you the tip! If you were rich and had to choose between living between Australia or Greece, most people will pick Greece every time! But the time will come when I will take my super and bid Australia Antio! And I will never look back! The rich and famous, will always pick Greece every time! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:03:33 PM Ok, good luck to you and your partner and children if you have them - I hope you all find Greece to be a land of happiness and economic opportunity. Although if you are a big Apoel fan then why not try to Cyprus...have you been? Not so many Hollywood types but a nice change from Adelaide.... .....just as inbred and dull, but a little further back in time. Also the kebabs are better. You just have to put up with being permanently an outsider if you weren't born in the same village as everyone else's cousin! Thanks! My children will remain in Australia and they will visit every year at Daddy's expense. When they get married, I will come to Australia to pay for the wedding and buy them a house! Or I will have them fly over to Greece for a village wedding with 3000 guests where they will get enough money to buy 2 houses! I have a house in Cyprus 2. But I have always dreamed of Greece. This is the country of dreams. I'm not exaggerating at all. Greece is mythical. It is burst bueatiful. It is hard to describe. The people are hard to describe. Greece is a very special country. Believe me when I tell you. If I had you as my guest on the Ionian Coast, you would move there too if you did not have to work. It is a Mediterranean playground! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:34:39 PM I know the Ionian. I also know Cyprus. But I prefer Australia because of the people and the more integrated culture. You are right though, the Greek/Cypriot people are hard to describe :-k But I wont be too critical. I am very happy with my lot and in an interesting way I owe many of the opportunities I have had to that Cypriot man (whether I liked him or not). Edit: Thanks Memeboy, noted. Edited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:49:26 PMEdited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:52:12 PM Don't worry!u expect nothing else from you. Too many years in this country and you probably are an Anglo! I probably know Greece and Cyprus better than you do!!!!! Like I said, I have only been here a few years and I'm not Anglo. You have been here all your life.... but you hate it!!?? This confirms you didn't grow up in Europe and that you are both naive and nostalgic for a life you never really knew. It is very sad what Greece and Cyprus have become. No you don't. I own property there and pay tax in both those countries. A small amount of tax, but nevertheless I am a tax payer and know the system very well. Not only this, but I have served and am still part of their reserve which means I could be called up whenever I am in the country. I could be called for either because there is no differentiation between the Greek or Cypriot military. Greek soldiers can do reserve duty in the Cypriot National Guard and vise versa. I was only there about 8 months ago and am due to go again in August. They got you licked. It is sad what Australia has become with its revolving door PM's, the suffocation and torture of the elderly and young juveniles in detention who are mostly of Aboriginal decent. Also, deaths in custody! You don't have this to my knowledge in any other Western Country m8ey! Edited by Aikhme: 28/7/2016 06:35:23 PM
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Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:Oh btw, you can't be sitting in glass houses throwing stones. I wouldn't be calling Greece xenophobic.
Yes there is a party called Golden Dawn and they did get about 3.5% of the vote and yes they are xenophobic and of the extreme right and probably fascist too. And yes, their supporters have done vulgar things.
But in Australia, you have One Nation. In France you have Le Pen! In the UK you have UKIP. Xenophobia is sweeping across Europe because people are under pressure. Austerity has hit hard and many are unemployed.
But they are hardly representative!
And I still wonder what Australia's excuse is. Because I am starting to scratch my head trying to find an EU country to knock Australia off its dizzy heights of gross HR violations against juveniles in custody. Can someone help? It is so sad that you continue attack the country that you live in. I have not been here many years, I suspect you have been here much longer than I??.... maybe your parents brought you here as a baby??? And yet you still talk about ' you Australians did this... you australians are racist....' I chose to come here as an adult and when I compare it places I have lived or my family lived in europe I am grateful everyday that I have left so much crap behind. But f modern Greek 'culture' suits you.... if the Greek economy looks a winner.....if you like the sound of a place that some American celebrities think is alright..... then just go! This country is using me for my qualifications. I am using it for the money. But let me give you the tip! If you were rich and had to choose between living between Australia or Greece, most people will pick Greece every time! But the time will come when I will take my super and bid Australia Antio! And I will never look back! The rich and famous, will always pick Greece every time! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:03:33 PM Ok, good luck to you and your partner and children if you have them - I hope you all find Greece to be a land of happiness and economic opportunity. Although if you are a big Apoel fan then why not try to Cyprus...have you been? Not so many Hollywood types but a nice change from Adelaide.... .....just as inbred and dull, but a little further back in time. Also the kebabs are better. You just have to put up with being permanently an outsider if you weren't born in the same village as everyone else's cousin! Thanks! My children will remain in Australia and they will visit every year at Daddy's expense. When they get married, I will come to Australia to pay for the wedding and buy them a house! Or I will have them fly over to Greece for a village wedding with 3000 guests where they will get enough money to buy 2 houses! I have a house in Cyprus 2. But I have always dreamed of Greece. This is the country of dreams. I'm not exaggerating at all. Greece is mythical. It is burst bueatiful. It is hard to describe. The people are hard to describe. Greece is a very special country. Believe me when I tell you. If I had you as my guest on the Ionian Coast, you would move there too if you did not have to work. It is a Mediterranean playground! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:34:39 PM I know the Ionian. I also know Cyprus. But I prefer Australia because of the people and the more integrated culture. You are right though, the Greek/Cypriot people are hard to describe :-k But I wont be too critical. I am very happy with my lot and in an interesting way I owe many of the opportunities I have had to that Cypriot man (whether I liked him or not). Edit: Thanks Memeboy, noted. Edited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:49:26 PMEdited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:52:12 PM Don't worry!u expect nothing else from you. Too many years in this country and you probably are an Anglo! I probably know Greece and Cyprus better than you do!!!!! Like I said, I have only been here a few years and I'm not Anglo. You have been here all your life.... but you hate it!!?? This confirms you didn't grow up in Europe and that you are both naive and nostalgic for a life you never really knew. It is very sad what Greece and Cyprus have become. No you don't. I own property there and pay tax in both those countries. A small amount of tax, but nevertheless I am a tax payer and know the system very well. Not only this, but I have served and am still part of their reserve which means I could be called up whenever I am in the country. I could be called for either because there is no differentiation between the Greek or Cypriot military. Greek soldiers can do reserve duty in the Cypriot National Guard and vise versa. I was only there about 8 months ago and am due to go again in August. They got you licked. It is sad what Australia has become with its revolving door OM's, the suffocation and torture of the elderly and young juveniles in detention who are mostly of Aboriginal decent. Also, deaths in custody! You don't have this to my knowledge in any other Western Country. A Greek tax payer!!!!!! I take it all back! =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> My extended family got rid of their property around Pathos many years ago and said good riddance! They wanted to go 'home' . Through them I was able to get some hospitality and management experience (and $$) and this gave me my opportunity a little later to start a small guest house on Santorini (the good side) before it became crazy popular with American and Japanese tourists and the prices went mad... (Life expectancy is the other way round mate - Aussies live longer according to WHO - and you shouldnt joke because poverty will not be kind to the Greeks in coming decades :( ) Edited by luckee: 28/7/2016 06:22:29 PM
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luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:luckee wrote:Aikhme wrote:Oh btw, you can't be sitting in glass houses throwing stones. I wouldn't be calling Greece xenophobic.
Yes there is a party called Golden Dawn and they did get about 3.5% of the vote and yes they are xenophobic and of the extreme right and probably fascist too. And yes, their supporters have done vulgar things.
But in Australia, you have One Nation. In France you have Le Pen! In the UK you have UKIP. Xenophobia is sweeping across Europe because people are under pressure. Austerity has hit hard and many are unemployed.
But they are hardly representative!
And I still wonder what Australia's excuse is. Because I am starting to scratch my head trying to find an EU country to knock Australia off its dizzy heights of gross HR violations against juveniles in custody. Can someone help? It is so sad that you continue attack the country that you live in. I have not been here many years, I suspect you have been here much longer than I??.... maybe your parents brought you here as a baby??? And yet you still talk about ' you Australians did this... you australians are racist....' I chose to come here as an adult and when I compare it places I have lived or my family lived in europe I am grateful everyday that I have left so much crap behind. But f modern Greek 'culture' suits you.... if the Greek economy looks a winner.....if you like the sound of a place that some American celebrities think is alright..... then just go! This country is using me for my qualifications. I am using it for the money. But let me give you the tip! If you were rich and had to choose between living between Australia or Greece, most people will pick Greece every time! But the time will come when I will take my super and bid Australia Antio! And I will never look back! The rich and famous, will always pick Greece every time! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:03:33 PM Ok, good luck to you and your partner and children if you have them - I hope you all find Greece to be a land of happiness and economic opportunity. Although if you are a big Apoel fan then why not try to Cyprus...have you been? Not so many Hollywood types but a nice change from Adelaide.... .....just as inbred and dull, but a little further back in time. Also the kebabs are better. You just have to put up with being permanently an outsider if you weren't born in the same village as everyone else's cousin! Thanks! My children will remain in Australia and they will visit every year at Daddy's expense. When they get married, I will come to Australia to pay for the wedding and buy them a house! Or I will have them fly over to Greece for a village wedding with 3000 guests where they will get enough money to buy 2 houses! I have a house in Cyprus 2. But I have always dreamed of Greece. This is the country of dreams. I'm not exaggerating at all. Greece is mythical. It is burst bueatiful. It is hard to describe. The people are hard to describe. Greece is a very special country. Believe me when I tell you. If I had you as my guest on the Ionian Coast, you would move there too if you did not have to work. It is a Mediterranean playground! Edited by Aikhme: 27/7/2016 06:34:39 PM I know the Ionian. I also know Cyprus. But I prefer Australia because of the people and the more integrated culture. You are right though, the Greek/Cypriot people are hard to describe :-k But I wont be too critical. I am very happy with my lot and in an interesting way I owe many of the opportunities I have had to that Cypriot man (whether I liked him or not). Edit: Thanks Memeboy, noted. Edited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:49:26 PMEdited by luckee: 27/7/2016 06:52:12 PM Don't worry!u expect nothing else from you. Too many years in this country and you probably are an Anglo! I probably know Greece and Cyprus better than you do!!!!! Like I said, I have only been here a few years and I'm not Anglo. You have been here all your life.... but you hate it!!?? This confirms you didn't grow up in Europe and that you are both naive and nostalgic for a life you never really knew. It is very sad what Greece and Cyprus have become. No you don't. I own property there and pay tax in both those countries. A small amount of tax, but nevertheless I am a tax payer and know the system very well. Not only this, but I have served and am still part of their reserve which means I could be called up whenever I am in the country. I could be called for either because there is no differentiation between the Greek or Cypriot military. Greek soldiers can do reserve duty in the Cypriot National Guard and vise versa. I was only there about 8 months ago and am due to go again in August. They got you licked. It is sad what Australia has become with its revolving door OM's, the suffocation and torture of the elderly and young juveniles in detention who are mostly of Aboriginal decent. Also, deaths in custody! You don't have this to my knowledge in any other Western Country. A Greek tax payer!!!!!! I take it all back! =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> My extended family got rid of their property around Pathos many years ago and said good riddance! They wanted to go 'home' . Through them I was able to get some hospitality and management experience (and $$) and this gave me my opportunity a little later to start a small guest house on Santorini (the good side) before it became crazy popular with American and Japanese tourists and the prices went mad... (Life expectancy is the other way round mate - Aussies live longer according to WHO - and you shouldnt joke because poverty will not be kind to the Greeks in coming decades :( ) Edited by luckee: 28/7/2016 06:22:29 PM You know, the news of Greeks not paying their tax is what you were fed by the Murdoch Media. Murdoch hates Greece because they forbid Murdoch from taking over the Greek Media which btw is far more pluralist and democratic than the media you have in Australia. Athens alone has over 30 daily newspapers, and 20 FTA TV channels mostly owned by different enterprises. But Murdoch did his best to punish the country for telling him to bugger off, and for introducing laws which will only allow him to own 1 newspaper and 1 TV channel and not control all the Cable Networks. In Australia, your media is similar to what you will find in Russia. =d> =d> =d> =d> Congratulations! But Greeks can't avoid paying ther tax. What tax evasion that does exist is from contractors, and small businesses not declaring their earnings properly and of course big corporations who offload their profits offshore just like they do in Australia.
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Perhaps Australia could learn to grow a backbone. They can learn that from the tenacious Greeks.
And just maybe, one day, Australians can get their media back and better control its media laws like Greece does, to ensure that freedom of expression, democracy and pluralism is maintain and that all views are heard not just the Murdoch propaganda you are fed about everything under the sun.
You think you have a democracy and freedom. Hah!
Greeks invented it and they practice it. All you have is window dressing m8ey! All owned by Murdoch!
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I'm sorry to burst everyone little bubble, but things are not as great as you think they are.
If you think things are great, then you are doomed to mediocrity. And we have seen the wheels fall off in Australia's governance the last few years. You don't even have a Government. You just have a Government controlled by the media, which means your Government is Murdoch himself.
If they don't like Abbott, he's gone. If they like Turnbull, he stays. That is the type of country and Government you have.
And your socieyty has lost control and is unable to look after vulnerable people - elderly, juvenile prisoners and who knows what else we are going to hear from Australia controlled by Murdoch!
You're all little brainwashed robots m8eys!
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I cannot fathom why anybody would harbour so much resent for such a great country like Australia. One would think after the diabolical debt situation and near economic collapse that would be more humble about Greeces prospects and place in the world, but there seems to be a trend among some greeks that they are the greatest country and people in the world, that they invented everything and have the strongest and best economy, the facts never seems to penetrate their delusional armour.
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Back to the thread topic or fuck off. All you're doing is trying to incite whatever kind of reaction with shitty bait, like every other forum you have ever been on. -PB
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rusty wrote:I cannot fathom why anybody would harbour so much resent for such a great country like Australia. One would think after the diabolical debt situation and near economic collapse that would be more humble about Greeces prospects and place in the world, but there seems to be a trend among some greeks that they are the greatest country and people in the world, that they invented everything and have the strongest and best economy, the facts never seems to penetrate their delusional armour. On various internet forums I go on, it's always the Greeks/Turks/Serbs/Poles that won't shut the fuck up about how great their country is. And please don't get them started on whether Alexander was Greek or Macedonian :lol: Edited by 433: 28/7/2016 09:18:05 PM
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paulbagzFC wrote:Back to the thread topic or fuck off.
All you're doing is trying to incite whatever kind of reaction with shitty bait, like every other forum you have ever been on.
-PB I agree. This has little to do with Australian politics, start another thread if you want about the benefits of Greece but no more here.
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grazorblade wrote:most journalistic articles aren't exactly scientifically rigorous and are just a list of glorified anecdotes to support a premise so I think its harsh to pick on this article
One of the challenges marginilized groups face is having their experience and challenges even enter the national dialogue at all. African Americans have been complaining about police brutality for decades but only recently with the help of videos have they had some momentum in convincing white folk of their experiences (and even then not that much). To get their issues heard people require a higher level of academic rigor to issues that people with the tools to create such a rigor aren't even aware of, or minimally aware of at best. Given that it is so hard to learn about minority issues any information you can get is valuable (and ideally should lead to pressure for those who can to investigate the matter more deeply) No doubt but 'testimonies' don't cut it for me. When it comes to something else controversial like coal seam gas, this sort of reporting is brushed off by everyone (unless it's a negative article). I have no issue with the premise itself, clearly people only react to what they see. If people are told nothing is wrong by people in flashy uniforms, they generally accept it. It's how its been for a long time. The article doesn't really support the headline with any substance though. Some statistics would be nice but they probably wouldn't support the premise of the article.
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Aikhme wrote:rusty wrote:You can tell aikhme was probably called a wog once and it cut him up so bad he's had an axe to grind ever since. Like most bitter people who feel rejected by this country he ignores all the beautiful parts such as our sunny beaches, strong economy , beautiful rainforests, tolerance for other races (as confirmed by the OECD) and targets our one supposed weakness which is culture, despite Australia being one of the most culturally rich diverse countries on the planet, compared to Greece's singular mono culture. You wont find too many anglo's upset about not having a national fonz dance or leaf hat as part of our dress code, we don't have time for that nonsense, too busy surfing, fishing, boating, winning gold medals, whatever tickles our fancy.
Straya is a top country aikhme, one of the best in fact. I'm not one to bleat on about how Australia is the best country in the world but if you were to list all of Australia's pros and cons and compare them with Greece we would wipe the floor with you. I can say proudly and objectively Australia is a better country than Greece, no amount of denigration of this beautiful land or faux nationalistic fist pumping for Greece will refute the facts. After all there has to be a reason Greece such a large international diaspora and Melbourne the second biggest Greek community outside of Athens :p Yes and I love Greece's singular mono-culture. You call yourself "diverse" because you got no culture of your own. Nothing worth protecting so you need to take from all of our cultures and call it your own. "Straya" isn't that great m*. You are just a number here. A cash cow. Greece always wipes the floor because Greece still has a sense of community, where everyone knows everyone, and actually cares and where families actually look after their children, elderly and celebrate life. The average Greek Citizen is far more happier than Australians and they have 2.5 years more life expectancy. That say's it all! Oh, and the worlds elites, rich, singers and movie stars always invariably will choose Greece over Australia to park up their $300 million dollar luxury yachts as well as buy property in Greece. Edited by Aikhme: 28/7/2016 05:30:53 PM just stay there when you get there.....do us all a huge favor........... good luck getting a job or welfare....\:d/ \:d/ \:d/
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Edit: Posts about Greece need to bloody stop.
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rusty wrote:I cannot fathom why anybody would harbour so much resent for such a great country like Australia. One would think after the diabolical debt situation and near economic collapse that would be more humble about Greeces prospects and place in the world, but there seems to be a trend among some greeks that they are the greatest country and people in the world, that they invented everything and have the strongest and best economy, the facts never seems to penetrate their delusional armour. No resentment. Quite the opposite infact. And a lot of concern for its future. Plus I know bullshit when I see it! Greeces prospects are also pretty good. Probably better than Australia, because Greece has seen far worse than the economic crisis it faces right now, which btw was WAY WAY beyond Greece's control. You do not even appreciate the clear facts that Greece is unable to QE! It is part of the Eurozone, and unable to print or devalue. That is what has caused this, not tax evasion or anything else. Edited by Aikhme: 29/7/2016 08:32:44 AM
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batfink wrote:Aikhme wrote:rusty wrote:You can tell aikhme was probably called a wog once and it cut him up so bad he's had an axe to grind ever since. Like most bitter people who feel rejected by this country he ignores all the beautiful parts such as our sunny beaches, strong economy , beautiful rainforests, tolerance for other races (as confirmed by the OECD) and targets our one supposed weakness which is culture, despite Australia being one of the most culturally rich diverse countries on the planet, compared to Greece's singular mono culture. You wont find too many anglo's upset about not having a national fonz dance or leaf hat as part of our dress code, we don't have time for that nonsense, too busy surfing, fishing, boating, winning gold medals, whatever tickles our fancy.
Straya is a top country aikhme, one of the best in fact. I'm not one to bleat on about how Australia is the best country in the world but if you were to list all of Australia's pros and cons and compare them with Greece we would wipe the floor with you. I can say proudly and objectively Australia is a better country than Greece, no amount of denigration of this beautiful land or faux nationalistic fist pumping for Greece will refute the facts. After all there has to be a reason Greece such a large international diaspora and Melbourne the second biggest Greek community outside of Athens :p Yes and I love Greece's singular mono-culture. You call yourself "diverse" because you got no culture of your own. Nothing worth protecting so you need to take from all of our cultures and call it your own. "Straya" isn't that great m*. You are just a number here. A cash cow. Greece always wipes the floor because Greece still has a sense of community, where everyone knows everyone, and actually cares and where families actually look after their children, elderly and celebrate life. The average Greek Citizen is far more happier than Australians and they have 2.5 years more life expectancy. That say's it all! Oh, and the worlds elites, rich, singers and movie stars always invariably will choose Greece over Australia to park up their $300 million dollar luxury yachts as well as buy property in Greece. Edited by Aikhme: 28/7/2016 05:30:53 PM just stay there when you get there.....do us all a huge favor........... good luck getting a job or welfare....\:d/ \:d/ \:d/ I got a job m8ey right here in Australia, and a well paying job at that! When I retire, by the age of 50, that's when I will be off, and I won't be needing to find another job, AND I also don't need any welfare. I can self fund myself. All I need after that is grow my 100 year old olives. I'll send you some and some olive oil too. Edited by Aikhme: 29/7/2016 08:36:58 AM
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Seeming people have ignored my warning... Edited by mcjules: 29/7/2016 08:55:37 AM
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Captains Call any minute now on KRuddies? -PB Edited by paulbagzFC: 29/7/2016 10:18:17 AM
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mcjules wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Back to the thread topic or fuck off.
All you're doing is trying to incite whatever kind of reaction with shitty bait, like every other forum you have ever been on.
-PB I agree. This has little to do with Australian politics, start another thread if you want about the benefits of Greece but no more here.
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paulbagzFC wrote:Captains Call any minute now on KRuddies?
-PB
Edited by paulbagzFC: 29/7/2016 10:18:17 AM From what I've read, its largely academic anyhow. I don't think he is a chance anyway.
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AzzaMarch wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Captains Call any minute now on KRuddies?
-PB
Edited by paulbagzFC: 29/7/2016 10:18:17 AM From what I've read, its largely academic anyhow. I don't think he is a chance anyway. He's well outside of actually getting the job. Eastern European female is the odds on. -PB
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Rudd is too petulant and vindicitive to be sec gen, Turnbull made the right choice.
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I don't think Rudd should be Secretary-General but it's pathetic that Turnbull has done this.
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AzzaMarch wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Captains Call any minute now on KRuddies?
-PB
Edited by paulbagzFC: 29/7/2016 10:18:17 AM From what I've read, its largely academic anyhow. I don't think he is a chance anyway. Which is why they should have approved the nomination. Sets a bad precedent in the future for anyone the libs put up. (Don't forget Labour endorsed Fraser in the past.) Also seems petty and churlish. He speaks 3 languages fluently, is known internationally as an Asia expert and has years of foreign ministry experience. Yes he is cock but for the above reasons they should have put him forward. Turnbull caving to the conservative faction yet again.
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mcjules wrote:I don't think Rudd should be Secretary-General but it's pathetic that Turnbull has done this. Why? Should suitability for sec gen be determined by one's nation or their suitability? What if Tony Abbott were to run, should we expect Labor to support his run?
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rusty wrote:mcjules wrote:I don't think Rudd should be Secretary-General but it's pathetic that Turnbull has done this. Why? Should suitability for sec gen be determined by one's nation or their suitability? What if Tony Abbott were to run, should we expect Labor to support his run? Toughlove's response is good enough for why. And yes and if Abbott were to want to run, I'd expect Labor to nominate him.
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Toughlove wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Captains Call any minute now on KRuddies?
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Edited by paulbagzFC: 29/7/2016 10:18:17 AM From what I've read, its largely academic anyhow. I don't think he is a chance anyway. Which is why they should have approved the nomination. Sets a bad precedent in the future for anyone the libs put up. (Don't forget Labour endorsed Fraser in the past.) Also seems petty and churlish. He speaks 3 languages fluently, is known internationally as an Asia expert and has years of foreign ministry experience. Yes he is cock but for the above reasons they should have put him forward. Turnbull caving to the conservative faction yet again. It shouldn't be a Labor or Lib it should be based on the national interest and suitability for the role. That Kevin Rudd is a vindictive cock rules him out of the job. It might ruffle a few Labor but even most of them will agree that Rudd is not suitable.
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