Classic batfink, classic gibber.

batfink v everyone :lol:

once again you all avoid the fact that I didn't say anything wrong in my original post regarding Vietnam....when you want to talk facts and reality sure no worries....until then you can all go fuck yourselves....;) ;) ;) ;)

Not sure if you guys have seen the Ed Husic backlash..



Some disgraceful comments coming through social media. Absolutely appalling.

Much more faith destroying :lol:

Sophie Mirabella got owned on qanda last night, btw

442's a much more entertaining place when Batfink's off his meds.

well I decided to sling some senseless shit back at the tard in the same fashion he delivered his rant.....he can dish it but cant take it....

geez I cant wait for you generation to learn some common sense.....then die

just answer the question stupid.....where in my original post did I insult you????

I love how you jumped to conclusions and accused MvFCArsenal of being a dole-bludging moron, making assumptions about a person you know very little about and then get all high and mighty and accuse ME of making assumptions. You're hilarious. You really are. Man I can't wait until baby boomers die.

This thread :lol:

Edited by 433: 2/7/2013 09:23:15 PM

So I'm a turd,a cunt,a bludger, if you want to insult me come back with something better

jumping to conclusion much.....that's your take on my comment....

I admire the Vietnamese work ethic, love the way they are connected to mother earth and how everything they do in their garden/farm has a purpose and a reason.....inspirational...
everything in its place neat and organised....simplicity is perfection, we have much to learn..


.......THATS WHAT I MEANT........

BUT HEY TWIST IT HOW YOU LIKE....

Suggesting that Australians could learn something from menial workers earning a pittance in miserable working conditions is pretty insulting.

Just don't mention Thailand.

not at all.....I am fine.....he started the attack and had no reason....have a look at my post where and how did I offend Asians or Vietnamese or anyone in my original post????

Vietnam has made Batfink angrier than usual.

I think batfink has just christened himself king of assholedom.

I would go as far as to say I LOVE em ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

why you feel its your job to butt in......he can go fuck himself....I insulted no one in my original post regarding Vietnam....so where does he get off slinging shit....kunts a social tard with an anger issue.....sooks like a fucking snivelling 3 year old....grow up and grow a spine apathetic tard.....


"I work my arse off at a company I don't like " well who's fault is that???? who cares!!!!! do something about it fucktard....stop crying like a princess....or is it THAT girlie time for him????

I quite like vaginas

What kind of shit insult was that? 8 years old's can do better.

Besides, if I'm "a vagina" that means I've got a depth and warmth you'll never possess.

Three years lost: political tragedy weakens a nation

June 27, 2013
Phil Barker

This is a story with no clear distinction between good and bad. A story with an ending that diminishes hope and depresses.

When the story of federal ALP politics from 2010 to 2013 is told in years to come, it should be told as a tragedy. A story with no clear distinction between good and bad. A story with an ending that diminishes hope and depresses.

Kevin Rudd was smart, evidence-based and thoughtful. He could speak Mandarin and presumably understood what mattered most to our most important regional relation. He apologised for the stolen generations, began the NBN, introduced paid government maternity leave, and through the global financial crisis led the world's most effective stimulus package. He wasn't in a faction, he didn't need to be: his power came from historically high polling.

But he wasn't a nice guy. We are told that as leader he treated those around him with contempt. He made up policy, particularly health policy, on the run, and deliberately used complicated language to belittle the electorate. He said climate change was the "great moral challenge of our time" but then refused to pursue a carbon price after an initial setback, albeit on Julia Gillard's recommendation. And Australians noticed, and stopped liking him.

So his power base – the polls – fell away, and he was exposed.

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Julia Gillard, with the encouragement of the factions and unions, saw an opportunity and took it. Australia, for the first time, had a female prime minister. It was swift, clinical and never properly explained to an electorate who deserved an explanation.

Quickly, she called an election and ran a campaign that never quite decided whether or not to "own" the achievements of the previous three years. In that time, fatefully, she promised, "there will be no carbon tax under a government that I lead".

So, at the 2010 election, the Australian people punished the ALP, while being unable to bring themselves to elect Tony Abbott. Julia Gillard had before her the monumental challenge of governing without a clear mandate, as a minority government and against a new, improved, disciplined and relentless Tony Abbott.

Despite that, she achieved landmark reforms about which Labor will brag for many years: pricing carbon, DisabilityCare and Gonski school funding.

In 2012, Gillard delivered the widely praised "misogyny speech" and had what would be her only period of ascendancy in the polls. She also stood tall while incurring some of the most shameful media and public treatment of a prime minister this country has ever seen. As Gillard said, while the role of gender in her prime ministership "doesn't explain everything, it doesn't explain nothing". How much it does explain will be debated for many years.

However, on the way to her achievements, Gillard made some politically devastating choices. Embracing a carbon tax as a precursor to an ETS, in contradiction to her pre-election promise, proved devastating to her public standing. Appointing Peter Slipper to the speaker's chair increased her majority by one, but turned out to be extremely costly as his awful judgment dominated the news cycle for too long. As leader, she had to bear the decision of the ALP to endorse Craig Thompson, and became tainted herself by his tainted past.

Furthermore, Gillard made a raft of policy choices that alienated her government from her left supporter base: not putting a vote on pokies to the floor of Parliament, largely embracing the "Pacific solution" to asylum seekers arriving by boat, championing a deeply flawed and ineffective mining tax and refusing to support gay marriage.

Meanwhile, Kevin Rudd went to work putting himself before party and nation. We are told he deliberately leaked to the media during the 2010 campaign. He and his delegates spent much of the Gillard prime ministership briefing journalists on internal leadership tensions. In part thanks to Rudd and his delegates, Gillard's government rarely had the oxygen to discuss policy. He ran against Gillard for the leadership once and suffered the biggest loss in Labor caucus history. He agitated again but declined to run because apparently he had too much integrity, and then finally, for the third time he ran again and was successful. What Gillard had dealt unto Rudd, Rudd dealt unto her.

Ultimately, Gillard was a victim of her own formula. If, as Gillard told Rudd, high opinion polls are the keys to the Lodge, it's amazing she lasted as long as she did.

And so we reflect on where that leaves us. The better leader, the historical reformer, only held faction-supported power on account of undemocratically knifing her predecessor. Meanwhile, the leader who was free from factions, the PM who was wronged, proceeded to become a pernicious but successful saboteur of his own government.

As a party, the ALP has been weakened by its transparent contempt for democratic accountability. As a nation, our democracy has been weakened by three years of lost policy debates. This story was a tragedy: what could have been from progressive, reforming governments, and what was from contemporary politicians.

Phil Barker is a management consultant. He was a member of the ALP until last year.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/three-years-lost-political-tragedy-weakens-a-nation-20130627-2oz7i.html#ixzz2XsqbQJGr

fight your own battles vagina

well if there is nothing wrong with middle class Australians visiting Vietnam why make stupid statements??????

what attitude is this princess????

I also work my arse off but I don't cry about it princess

Bludger? I work my ass off for a company I don't want to be at ,so I can support my family ,its people like you that make me sick , also nothing wrong with a white middle class person visiting a third world country ,what I find insulting is your attitude towards my Asian brethren . It's insulting towards me and you .

Wut? :-S MvFCArsenal16.8 works his arse off you twat.

so tell me dip shit what is wrong with a middleclass Australian visiting Vietnam??????

don't worry 433 he isn't that bright....typical leftie dysfunctional bludger on the take

Edited by batfink: 2/7/2013 08:22:03 PM