The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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moops - 18 Jun 2019 7:54 PM
This video makes a lot of sense with what is happening at the moment in Australia, it never used to be like it is now. At first when I saw it I wasn't sure about a few things, but a little think and the observations he makes are pretty spot on I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A6IcHa1YnU

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moops - 22 Jun 2019 4:17 PM
moops - 18 Jun 2019 7:54 PM

No thoughts?

It's been a hectic week for me but I just watched it. I'm pretty sure I don't have the same political views in general as the guy but I thought it was pretty reasonable and reflects a lot of what I've said over the years in this thread


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mcjules - 22 Jun 2019 6:12 PM
moops - 22 Jun 2019 4:17 PM

It's been a hectic week for me but I just watched it. I'm pretty sure I don't have the same political views in general as the guy but I thought it was pretty reasonable and reflects a lot of what I've said over the years in this thread

All good, do you think the divide has become less diverse, an either or debate?
Do you think that people are grouped regardless, more indoctrinated think.
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mcjules - 22 Jun 2019 6:12 PM
moops - 22 Jun 2019 4:17 PM

It's been a hectic week for me but I just watched it. I'm pretty sure I don't have the same political views in general as the guy but I thought it was pretty reasonable and reflects a lot of what I've said over the years in this thread

Why did you think you have different political views?
Curious, I thought he was rather neutral.
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moops - 22 Jun 2019 6:37 PM
mcjules - 22 Jun 2019 6:12 PM

All good, do you think the divide has become less diverse, an either or debate?
Do you think that people are grouped regardless, more indoctrinated think.

I'm not sure about what you mean in the first question.

I agree that there are people that aren't necessary extremists that are being grouped with them and it's not particularly helpful for engagement. 

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moops - 22 Jun 2019 8:38 PM
mcjules - 22 Jun 2019 6:12 PM

Why did you think you have different political views?
Curious, I thought he was rather neutral.

He was very neutral in this video but he makes some references to some opinions he shared in the past that I don't agree with. Certainly doesn't sound like an extremist by any stretch. 

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mcjules - 22 Jun 2019 9:59 PM
moops - 22 Jun 2019 6:37 PM

I'm not sure about what you mean in the first question.

I agree that there are people that aren't necessary extremists that are being grouped with them and it's not particularly helpful for engagement. 
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mcjules - 22 Jun 2019 9:59 PM
moops - 22 Jun 2019 6:37 PM

I'm not sure about what you mean in the first question.

I agree that there are people that aren't necessary extremists that are being grouped with them and it's not particularly helpful for engagement. 

first question is relative to the video.
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Industrial Relations set to be looked at by Christian Porter rofl.

Union bashing is defo back on the menu, Workchoices 2.0 here we come.

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paulbagzFC - 24 Jun 2019 11:20 AM
Industrial Relations set to be looked at by Christian Porter rofl.

Union bashing is defo back on the menu, Workchoices 2.0 here we come.

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Of course it is. They will always go for the unions because it is easier for them to tackle them then the bloody banks
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 24 Jun 2019 3:17 PM
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Of course it is. They will always go for the unions because it is easier for them to tackle them then the bloody banks

Well yeah because the Libs have the banks dick deep down their throats. ScoMo voted against the banking royal commission 26 times and called it a populist whinge.

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sub007 - 24 Jun 2019 4:52 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 24 Jun 2019 3:17 PM

Well yeah because the Libs have the banks dick deep down their throats. ScoMo voted against the banking royal commission 26 times and called it a populist whinge.

It was. Because of the Banking Royal Commission, banks have tightened their lending and look at what that has done.

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mouflonrouge - 24 Jun 2019 10:59 PM
sub007 - 24 Jun 2019 4:52 PM

It was. Because of the Banking Royal Commission, banks have tightened their lending and look at what that has done.

I have no intention of wasting my time arguing with you but please answer this one question.

Why was the Royal Commission a bad thing despite the fact there was evidence of obvious wrongdoing? Surely you believe that anyone involved in any wrongdoing should face the consequences right?
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sub007 - 24 Jun 2019 11:51 PM
mouflonrouge - 24 Jun 2019 10:59 PM

I have no intention of wasting my time arguing with you but please answer this one question.

Why was the Royal Commission a bad thing despite the fact there was evidence of obvious wrongdoing? Surely you believe that anyone involved in any wrongdoing should face the consequences right?

Because any royal commission costs millions and the government already had legislated to impose penalties on the banks - in fact wasn't the Commonwealth Bank fined $700 a few years back?

Agree the government was reluctant to go further and it did and exposed the banks more. We're now suffering a finance / lending crunch as a result. A vibrant and strong banking system is vital for any strong democracy - although socialists will tend to disagree.


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paulc - 25 Jun 2019 1:38 PM
sub007 - 24 Jun 2019 11:51 PM

Because any royal commission costs millions and the government already had legislated to impose penalties on the banks - in fact wasn't the Commonwealth Bank fined $700 a few years back?

Agree the government was reluctant to go further and it did and exposed the banks more. We're now suffering a finance / lending crunch as a result. A vibrant and strong banking system is vital for any strong democracy - although socialists will tend to disagree.

When you don't have strong regulations around lending you get the GFC.  Lending money to people who can't afford the repayments is, and has been, and always will be a recipe for disaster.

One of the main reasons Australia avoided the GFC was our strong regulations around lending and the fact the country wasn't awash with cheap money.
  





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Munrubenmuz - 25 Jun 2019 2:06 PM
paulc - 25 Jun 2019 1:38 PM

When you don't have strong regulations around lending you get the GFC.  Lending money to people who can't afford the repayments is, and has been, and always will be a recipe for disaster.

One of the main reasons Australia avoided the GFC was our strong regulations around lending and the fact the country wasn't awash with cheap money.
  



Great response.
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paulc - 25 Jun 2019 1:38 PM
sub007 - 24 Jun 2019 11:51 PM

Because any royal commission costs millions and the government already had legislated to impose penalties on the banks - in fact wasn't the Commonwealth Bank fined $700 a few years back?

Agree the government was reluctant to go further and it did and exposed the banks more. We're now suffering a finance / lending crunch as a result. A vibrant and strong banking system is vital for any strong democracy - although socialists will tend to disagree.

So?

I want those who commit wrongdoing to be held accountable.
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sub007 - 25 Jun 2019 2:28 PM
paulc - 25 Jun 2019 1:38 PM

So?

I want those who commit wrongdoing to be held accountable.

You can say that about most similar issues but at what cost and for what result?

We have regulations and legislation that kept us in good stead without spending $50 million or more for every royal commission!

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Munrubenmuz - 25 Jun 2019 2:06 PM
paulc - 25 Jun 2019 1:38 PM

When you don't have strong regulations around lending you get the GFC.  Lending money to people who can't afford the repayments is, and has been, and always will be a recipe for disaster.

One of the main reasons Australia avoided the GFC was our strong regulations around lending and the fact the country wasn't awash with cheap money.
  



Very true. We still had and in fact strengthened the Regulations before the Royal Commission.

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So why then did they still get slayed in the commission?

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paulc - 25 Jun 2019 4:46 PM
sub007 - 25 Jun 2019 2:28 PM

You can say that about most similar issues but at what cost and for what result?

We have regulations and legislation that kept us in good stead without spending $50 million or more for every royal commission!

I’d say the government has generated more than 50m from the inquiry.

I never expected it to be this bad, but now I wonder what the second tier lenders are up to.
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paulc - 25 Jun 2019 4:46 PM
sub007 - 25 Jun 2019 2:28 PM

You can say that about most similar issues but at what cost and for what result?

We have regulations and legislation that kept us in good stead without spending $50 million or more for every royal commission!

So our economy doesn’t crash and those who do any wrongdoing are held to account.
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Good to see Pyney picking up sweet consultant jobs.

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sub007 - 24 Jun 2019 11:51 PM
mouflonrouge - 24 Jun 2019 10:59 PM

I have no intention of wasting my time arguing with you but please answer this one question.

Why was the Royal Commission a bad thing despite the fact there was evidence of obvious wrongdoing? Surely you believe that anyone involved in any wrongdoing should face the consequences right?

It was bad because we all paid for the bride because the Banks tightened everything up and when they do that, Business has a downturn, consumer confidence plummets and it costs jobs.

Our properties depreciated by up to 20% which also means Banks can foreclose on very over exposed families and couples.

Banks do not lose. We do!

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paulc - 25 Jun 2019 4:46 PM

I’d say the government has generated more than 50m from the inquiry.

I never expected it to be this bad, but now I wonder what the second tier lenders are up to.

But the Banks generated more than a Billion. How? by not passing the full interest cuts, and raising their fees to pay for the costs.


The Banks ALWAYS just pass the buck and this will always occur.

This Royal Commission was just a political point scoring scheme by a few populist politicians and the ALP. Everyone knew there would be nothing worthwhile come from it and that in the end, the Banks will just tighten the screws and take their vengeance. But the politicians get their 5 minutes of glory and a "look at me" moment on our TV screens on how they are fighting the big bad Banks and defending the integrity of society and all battlers when in fact it had nothing to do with this at all.

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Course of action if north korea has detained this australian guy?
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Iridium1010 - 27 Jun 2019 4:12 PM
Course of action if north korea has detained this australian guy?

Don't be a pussy about it.
We know they have camps that are full of torture, if the government turns a blind eye, we are farked.
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Iridium1010 - 27 Jun 2019 4:12 PM
Course of action if north korea has detained this australian guy?

Negotiate his release straight away. 
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Tell the fucking mop he's an idiot for going there and posting shit on social media holy fuck

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paulbagzFC - 27 Jun 2019 7:12 PM
Tell the fucking mop he's an idiot for going there and posting shit on social media holy fuck

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I haven't seen his social media stuff, did he shit post on North Korea?
It sounds like he didn't.
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