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It would be inconceivable that football should risk the inclusion of ethnic community based clubs into the A-League.
There is talk of meetings, blending the new with the old, all lovey dovey pie in the sky stuff that would have some credit if the ethnic clubs ever attempted to relinguish their mono ethnic community comes first and foremost attitude. SM Hellas almost imploded when that was suggested.
From time to time, you still hear of unrest in the state's premier and state leagues, obviously not as serious as it once was, but how could it be with an average of 200 spectators per game.
There is a real risk that violence and unruly behaviour would return to the game if ethnic clubs were permitted to return. The SM Hellas president once said that we may have to ban these clubs so why should there be a difference now if it was unacceptable merely a few years ago?
So we don't forget the past and make hasty decisions, below is just one of many incidents recorded during the latter years of the defunct NSL.
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By Jesse Hogan
April 18, 2005 - 3:24PM
Supporters watch on as flares are thrown at Bob Jane Stadium last night.
Photo: Stefan Gorgievski
Police are furious after ethnic-based soccer violence flared again last night during a Victorian Premier League soccer clash between South Melbourne and Preston Lions at Bob Jane Stadium.
Four officers received minor injuries in the melee.
One person was arrested for assaulting an officer, with police studying video footage to try and make more arrests.
Even before play began, 9000 supporters of South Melbourne - which has a mainly Greek fan base - and the predominantly Macedonian Preston Lions were segregated at opposite ends of the stadium, separated by water-filled barriers.
Forty-five police and 40 security staff confiscated inflammatory banners and amid chanting and rising tension, delaying kick-off by 15 minutes.
A goal from ex-South Melbourne player Steve Manceski was enough for Preston to claim victory against its higher-rated opponent, but the result triggered violence in the stands.
At least a dozen flares were thrown onto the pitch after the match, while about 100 supporters of both clubs invaded the pitch after breaking down a fence.
The rival supporters also threw coins and darts at each other.
Mounted police were used to disperse the crowd.
One supporter threw a wheelie bin at a police horse.
Acting Superintendent Chris Duthie, who was working at the match, said the behaviour of some fans was "very disappointing".
"The police could do little else than try and control the crowd," he said. "If we had have gone in and made numerous arrests we would have lost our personnel," he said.
"If it hadn't have been for the police horses, I think we would have lost the day."
A match between South Melbourne and Melbourne Knights in the now-defunct National Soccer League in February last year was also marred by crowd violence.
Supporters, most of whom supported the Knights, ripped up chairs at Bob Jane Stadium and marched down Clarendon Street in droves after the match, damaging many shops along the way.
South Melbourne president George Donikian said it was likely future matches between the two clubs - which had not faced each other in 12 years - would be played away from fans.
Acting Superintendent Duthie said extra officers were rostered on as violence was expected. He said he had met representatives of both clubs before the match but was unhappy with the result.
"I wasn't satisfied with the fact that there was no guarantees they could control the behaviour of their own fans."
He also dismissed suggestions they were unprepared for the violence, saying security officers had been checking patrons' bags while police had been using metal detectors as well.
"If you have 200 people that want to riot, it's difficult to have any number of police or security in order to overcome it."
Acting Superintendent Duthie will be meeting further with the clubs this week to determine how their will minimise violence in future fixtures between the two clubs. He forecast an alcohol ban at Bob Jane Stadium.
"There probably won't be (alcohol available) in the future, because I'm also the licensing inspector for that area."
He also said arrangements would have to be made to ensure rival supporters were not using the same toilets, as happened yesterday.
The clubs face fines of up to $10,000 over the flare-throwing.
Officials from Football Federation Victoria, which runs the Victorian Premier League, will meet to decide on punishment for the clubs.
Victorian Soccer Federation chief Tony Pignata told ABC radio the two clubs could be banned from competition.
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Benjamin wrote: paulc wrote: Apart from the violence, here are...
rocknerd
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Apart from the violence, here are other factors why...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
Im a proud Melb Knights and Melb Heart supporter and am also an ethnic...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
rocknerd wrote: Benjamin wrote: paulc wrote: Apart from the...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: rocknerd wrote: Benjamin wrote: paulc...
rocknerd
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: kapow! wrote: Benjamin wrote: Doesn't grate...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
Terrible shame that you can't tell the difference between a comment...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: rusty wrote: cro69 wrote: why not here you say?...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you can't tell the difference...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
General Ashnak wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you can't tell the difference...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you can't tell...
aufc_ole
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you can't tell...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you can't tell...
sav
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13 Years Ago
sav wrote: i mean since then australia has so many new ethnic...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that you can't tell...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote: Terrible shame that...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
Look there is no way back for KNIGHTS or Sth Melb but if you look...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: cro69 wrote: paulc wrote: Benjamin wrote:...
aynoc
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13 Years Ago
You have to admit that the rants of the anti-ethnic crowd have become...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur, IMHO, racism is not the cause of the anti-NSL crowd, although...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
Very well said Arthur. P.S. I read that all in George Cole's voice....
paulbagzFC
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: The fact that there are so many new migrant...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: Arthur, IMHO, racism is not the cause of the...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur, you are just a bitter man. Just admit it. You chose to use...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: Arthur, you are just a bitter man. Just admit it....
RedEyeRob
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13 Years Ago
RedEyeRob wrote: Heart_fan wrote: Arthur, you are just a bitter...
Davide82
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: Arthur, you are just a bitter man. Just admit it....
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
Arthur lets call a spade a spade - when Chris your other SMFC mate...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur lets call a spade a spade - when Chris your...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
Ethnic viiolence will hit you anywhere, in any sport. It's risk. But...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
aynoc wrote: paulc wrote: cro69 wrote: paulc wrote:...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: Arthur, you are just a bitter man. Just admit it....
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
skeptic wrote: [quote=BackFour]Arthur lets call a spade a spade -...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence will hit you anywhere, in any sport....
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
skeptic wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence will hit you...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: skeptic wrote: [quote=BackFour]Arthur lets call...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur lets call a spade a spade - when Chris your...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: skeptic wrote: [quote=BackFour]Arthur lets call...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: skeptic wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence will hit you anywhere, in any sport....
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: skeptic wrote:...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: skeptic...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote:...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: To get to that level do you honestly think there are...
RedEyeRob
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence will hit you...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote:...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence will...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote:...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: those who fail to learn the lessons of history are...
Benny Buckly
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote:...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence will hit you...
RedEyeRob
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Incidents in the A-League are miniscule by comparison....
RedEyeRob
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote:...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
RedEyeRob wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Arthur wrote:...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Benny Buckly wrote: BackFour wrote: those who fail to learn the...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
RedEyeRob wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: Benny Buckly wrote: BackFour wrote: those who...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: RedEyeRob wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote:...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: Benny Buckly wrote: BackFour...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
In the last 2 season's of NSL Melb Knights had supporters of fillipino...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: Benny Buckly...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
Blackmissionary wrote: kapow! wrote: Why don't other backgrounds...
kapow!
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: kapow! wrote: Benjamin wrote: Doesn't grate...
kapow!
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: RedEyeRob wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote:...
RedEyeRob
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13 Years Ago
Why ethnic teams will not be allowed in the A-League
sydneycroatia58
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: In the last 2 season's of NSL Melb Knights had...
Roar_Brisbane
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13 Years Ago
And if it wasn't for Postecoglou there'd be no Roar. Lot of "if's"...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
sydneycroatia58 wrote: You know I wasn't going to say anything...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: And if it wasn't for Postecoglou there'd be no Roar....
cro69
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13 Years Ago
I'm as good as Viduka on my day. Promise.
Draupnir
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13 Years Ago
Draupnir wrote: I'm as good as Viduka on my day. Promise. I am...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
RedEyeRob wrote: BackFour wrote: RedEyeRob wrote: Arthur...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: the logic is on my side and you should be ashamed...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
well said.
cro69
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: I understood completely, violence in any form is...
RedEyeRob
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13 Years Ago
I can’t believe that in the year 2012 i’m having the same arguments...
aynoc
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13 Years Ago
Yeah, needed to be posted.
Heineken
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13 Years Ago
Well said aynoc. ".......i can still remember every state and...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
i also seem to find that fans of old soccer actually can play, or have...
sav
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13 Years Ago
aynoc wrote: We were the ones to stand up and do what was needed to...
Benny Buckly
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13 Years Ago
sav wrote: i also seem to find that fans of old soccer actually can...
Roar_Brisbane
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13 Years Ago
RedEyeRob wrote: BackFour wrote: I understood completely,...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
sav wrote: i also seem to find that fans of old soccer actually can...
rusty
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: I think you are struggling with a very simple...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: Arthur wrote: And if it wasn't for Postecoglou...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: cro69 wrote: Arthur wrote: And if it wasn't...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
On matters recent, Preston were not in the NSL for the last ten years...
aynoc
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13 Years Ago
I think NSL die hards need to get over dishing out the racist tag...
rusty
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13 Years Ago
rusty wrote: I think NSL die hards need to get over dishing out the...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
So South Melbourne is NOT an Aussie club now Benjamin? Tut tut
Davide82
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13 Years Ago
Davide82 wrote: So South Melbourne is NOT an Aussie club now...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: Davide82 wrote: So South Melbourne is NOT an...
Davide82
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13 Years Ago
Davide82 wrote: Benjamin wrote: Davide82 wrote: So South...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: Davide82 wrote: Benjamin wrote: Davide82...
Davide82
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13 Years Ago
Davide82 wrote: Benjamin wrote: Davide82 wrote: Benjamin...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
Davide82 wrote: I'm on your side here don't worry Amusing that a...
rusty
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: My issue is with those who try to infer that...
rusty
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: BackFour wrote: I think you are struggling with...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
aynoc wrote: I can’t believe that in the year 2012 i’m having the...
kapow!
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13 Years Ago
kapow! wrote: Finally, not once in describing your bitterness at...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
kapow! wrote: aynoc wrote: I can’t believe that in the year 2012...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
^^ I agree, although the State League forum is a different part of...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
The evolution of Cro69's avatars of the last month has been amusing to...
Davide82
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13 Years Ago
Quote: This is an a-league site. This is second time you've...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
kapow! wrote: This is an a-league site. The Mast Head...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Heart_fan wrote: ^^ I agree, although the State League forum is a...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
aynoc wrote: I can’t believe that in the year 2012 i’m having the...
chris
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13 Years Ago
Davide82 wrote: The evolution of Cro69's avatars of the last month...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
skeptic wrote: BackFour wrote: the logic is on my side and you...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Progress has it's casualties - the change is for...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
In creating the AFL all other state codes including the VFL were...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: skeptic wrote: BackFour wrote: the logic is...
chris
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13 Years Ago
The amount of old NSL supporters that go watch HAL games is huge but...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Progress has it's casualties -...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
General Ashnak wrote: I am also still waiting on anyone to reply to...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: In creating the AFL all other state codes including...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: cro69 wrote: In creating the AFL all other state...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
How about you use a larger font with bold and coloured text to go...
skeptic
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13 Years Ago
chris wrote: BackFour wrote: skeptic wrote: BackFour wrote:...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: cro69 wrote: In creating the AFL all other state...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: cro69 wrote: In creating the AFL all other state...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: chris wrote: Considering the money the game has...
Benjamin
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13 Years Ago
As a SANFL follower we did not have a single team culled, the SANFL...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
General Ashnak wrote: BackFour wrote: cro69 wrote: In...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: General Ashnak wrote: BackFour wrote: cro69...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
Benjamin wrote: BackFour wrote: chris wrote: Considering the...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
Im the 1st to admit the NSL wasnt perfect but if NSL clubs had as much...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: Im the 1st to admit the NSL wasnt perfect but if NSL...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
I did say it wasnt perfect just stating the difference in marketing...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
I think we should allow some of the ethnic teams in, but ban the...
notorganic
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13 Years Ago
There are no more ethnic clubs anyway their all aussie teams now and...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: I did say it wasnt perfect just stating the difference...
Heart_fan
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13 Years Ago
RedEyeRob wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: Ethnic viiolence...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
notorganic wrote: I think we should allow some of the ethnic teams...
aufc_ole
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13 Years Ago
We all know that we are just compareing if the NSL had all this money...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Progress has...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
aufc_ole wrote: notorganic wrote: I think we should allow some...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
So violence that occurs between ADL UTD vs MVFC and SFC vs MVFC and...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote: Arthur wrote: BackFour wrote:...
BackFour
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: So violence that occurs between ADL UTD vs MVFC and...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
General Ashnak wrote: cro69 wrote: So violence that occurs...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: So violence that occurs between ADL UTD vs MVFC and...
samb
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13 Years Ago
General Ashnak wrote: cro69 wrote: So violence that occurs...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
samb wrote: cro69 wrote: So violence that occurs between ADL UTD...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: General Ashnak wrote: cro69 wrote: So violence...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
I once flykicked a guy through a mesh fence in Adelaide because he...
notorganic
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13 Years Ago
rusty wrote: I think NSL die hards need to get over dishing out the...
SMFC and proud
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notorganic wrote: I once flykicked a guy through a mesh fence in...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
So going by that were all the NSL games marred by violence or were...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
Im pretty sure that a lot of the NSL incidents were made to look worse...
samb
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13 Years Ago
It's no coincidence that the pro ethnic club advocates are the mostly...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
I dont want the HAL to fail i want it to improve and the only way that...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
cro69 wrote: I dont want the HAL to fail i want it to improve and...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: It's no coincidence that the pro ethnic club advocates...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: cro69 wrote: I dont want the HAL to fail i want it...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Relax paulc there is no conspirecy the WOG's arnt taking over!! why?...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: cro69 wrote: I dont want the HAL...
paulc
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13 Years Ago
BackFour wrote: it is not an assumption it is a FACT that the...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: cro69 wrote: I...
General Ashnak
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13 Years Ago
paulc wrote: Arthur wrote: paulc wrote: cro69 wrote: I...
Arthur
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13 Years Ago
Im still convinced he was dropped on his head as a baby!! because...
cro69
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13 Years Ago
It's been 5 pages since I posted this, think it's appropriate
sydneycroatia58
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13 Years Ago
Too many agendas and under the table tactics from the state league...
TrueAnglo
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13 Years Ago
sydneycroatia58 wrote: It's been 5 pages since I posted this, think...
StiflersMom
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