should a league clubs provide prayer rooms for muslims??


should a league clubs provide prayer rooms for muslims??

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petszk wrote:
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sobkowski wrote:
No, No & No.

What about the Christians, Jews, hindus, buddhists, jedi's, etc, etc, blah, etc?

I'd prefer to keep football in Australia, secular. Let them conduct their religious business elsewhere.



"Prayer rooms, for all denominations, have been recently introduced at Etihad Stadium, the MCG and Sydney's ANZ Stadium."

You can have Prayer rooms and still be secular. It's not like they're asking everyone to pray before kick off or something.


What happens if Muslims & Jews both want to use the same prayer room...


They both agree to not share the pork sandwish left by the Christian.
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petszk wrote:
mcjules wrote:
sobkowski wrote:
No, No & No.

What about the Christians, Jews, hindus, buddhists, jedi's, etc, etc, blah, etc?

I'd prefer to keep football in Australia, secular. Let them conduct their religious business elsewhere.



"Prayer rooms, for all denominations, have been recently introduced at Etihad Stadium, the MCG and Sydney's ANZ Stadium."

You can have Prayer rooms and still be secular. It's not like they're asking everyone to pray before kick off or something.


What happens if Muslims & Jews both want to use the same prayer room...


Yes because all Jews and Muslims want to kill eachother :roll:



Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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To some, sport can be like a religion but religion is not a sport. What next, if the prayer room is at the southern end, then all the prayers(of what ever religion it is) will be grouped together, can you see where this is going..

If you can't go to the game because you have to pray, too bad, go pray.
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rocknerd wrote:
petszk wrote:
mcjules wrote:
sobkowski wrote:
No, No & No.

What about the Christians, Jews, hindus, buddhists, jedi's, etc, etc, blah, etc?

I'd prefer to keep football in Australia, secular. Let them conduct their religious business elsewhere.



"Prayer rooms, for all denominations, have been recently introduced at Etihad Stadium, the MCG and Sydney's ANZ Stadium."

You can have Prayer rooms and still be secular. It's not like they're asking everyone to pray before kick off or something.


What happens if Muslims & Jews both want to use the same prayer room...


They both agree to not share the pork sandwish left by the Christian.


:lol: =d>


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Benjamin wrote:
Some interesting 'inclusive' comments from some supporters here. Obviously football is to be broadbased, but not quite that broadbased.


Exactly.

I would have thought that a football game is one of those places where you often most need to duck away for a bit of a prayer to the all mighty.
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mcjules wrote:
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Fuck no. We're not an Islamic state. If you're Muslim, and have to go pray, then so be it, but you find your own secluded area. We're not here to wait on hand and foot for every one of your specific needs.


Aaaaaaaaaand that's me done for this thread

Jesus Christ


Me too.:cry:

You should have listened to the callers on FiveAA last night about this topic.



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There's always a lot of prayer at sports games.

As for specific Muslim requirements, I'd be interested to know what is done in countries with majority Muslim populations who also are massive football fans. Do they schedule games around prayer times or is there corporate prayer before or after games? Genuine question.

I have no problem with specific prayer rooms if that allows people to pray in peace and quiet without being hassled by others who might fine the experience unsettling. Asking people to find a 'quiet place' in an arena is somewhat unrealistic.

In the middle-east you often see devout Muslims who are working (as security guards for instance) simply get out their prayer mat, face east and pray wherever they are. That would be harder to do here I think.
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StiflersMom wrote:
To some, sport can be like a religion but religion is not a sport. What next, if the prayer room is at the southern end, then all the prayers(of what ever religion it is) will be grouped together, can you see where this is going..

If you can't go to the game because you have to pray, too bad, go pray.


'this' is going nowhere because it concerns only the afl.

Isn't it a fucking pity that's the case and it's none of your or any other football fan's fucking business. Or do you lot want to tell them what they can do too?

Football, the game of inclusion, as displayed once again in this thread.
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Davide82 wrote:
Sometimes I lose faith in humanity on this forum


Do people with Faith in Humanity need to pray ?
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The A-League can afford to turn people away?

:lol:

FFS they could play a game next to the Kaabah at Ramadam and still nobody would turn up.
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Davide82 wrote:
Jesus Christ


:lol:
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skeptic wrote:
StiflersMom wrote:
To some, sport can be like a religion but religion is not a sport. What next, if the prayer room is at the southern end, then all the prayers(of what ever religion it is) will be grouped together, can you see where this is going..

If you can't go to the game because you have to pray, too bad, go pray.


'this' is going nowhere because it concerns only the afl.

Isn't it a fucking pity that's the case and it's none of your or any other football fan's fucking business. Or do you lot want to tell them what they can do too?

Football, the game of inclusion, as displayed once again in this thread.


To be fair I don't think you should be trying to tarnish football OR it's supporters because of the quality of people/thinking on this forum.

Internet forums in general are not representative of ANY sort of majority and are full of insignificant twerps who would piss themselves quite literally if they ever had to say half the things they say on here to a real life human being.

These people are also in the MINORITY on even this forum here so steady on with your own generalisations ;)
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notorganic wrote:
Davide82 wrote:
Jesus Christ


:lol:


Couldn't help myself
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Benny Buckly wrote:
Davide82 wrote:
Sometimes I lose faith in humanity on this forum


Do people with Faith in Humanity need to pray ?


Harder than most
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SUTHERLANDBEAR wrote:
No,no and more no. This is a christian country end of ! Go and and try and find a christian prayer room in a muslin state,even asking can lead to death !They need to pray, do it at home. If this makes me racist, then so be it.


Islam is not a race, so this just makes you a bit of an ignorant bigot rather than a racist.
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notorganic wrote:
SUTHERLANDBEAR wrote:
No,no and more no. This is a christian country end of ! Go and and try and find a christian prayer room in a muslin state,even asking can lead to death !They need to pray, do it at home. If this makes me racist, then so be it.


Islam is not a race, so this just makes you a bit of an ignorant bigot rather than a racist.


An important distinction nonetheless
:lol:
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Damn my day for being boring
I said I was done for this thread 6 posts ago!!!

God damn you people :lol:

Edited by davide82: 20/4/2012 12:40:19 PM
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Davide82 wrote:
skeptic wrote:
StiflersMom wrote:
To some, sport can be like a religion but religion is not a sport. What next, if the prayer room is at the southern end, then all the prayers(of what ever religion it is) will be grouped together, can you see where this is going..

If you can't go to the game because you have to pray, too bad, go pray.


'this' is going nowhere because it concerns only the afl.

Isn't it a fucking pity that's the case and it's none of your or any other football fan's fucking business. Or do you lot want to tell them what they can do too?

Football, the game of inclusion, as displayed once again in this thread.


To be fair I don't think you should be trying to tarnish football OR it's supporters because of the quality of people/thinking on this forum.

Internet forums in general are not representative of ANY sort of majority and are full of insignificant twerps who would piss themselves quite literally if they ever had to say half the things they say on here to a real life human being.

These people are also in the MINORITY on even this forum here so steady on with your own generalisations ;)


I've been around enough to know not to include the majority of football supports with this lot of feral rabble, whom i'd know are also a minority on this forum.

However, the rabble, having the biggest mouths and smallest minds are also the loudest and most damaging, presenting a damn poor example of a football supporter for anyone and everyone whom might have the misfortune to trip over the trash.

Credit to yourself for being one of a regular handful or two with the guts to speak up.
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Benjamin wrote:
Some interesting 'inclusive' comments from some supporters here. Obviously football is to be broadbased, but not quite that broadbased.


What are you on about?

Why is having a "prayer room" at a sports stadium an issue anyone should consider?

It's a bloody football stadium.

Do they have prayer rooms at shopping centres?

Do they have prayer rooms at cinemas?

Did Muslims even ask for this, or is it just AFL grandstanding?
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skeptic wrote:
Davide82 wrote:
skeptic wrote:
StiflersMom wrote:
To some, sport can be like a religion but religion is not a sport. What next, if the prayer room is at the southern end, then all the prayers(of what ever religion it is) will be grouped together, can you see where this is going..

If you can't go to the game because you have to pray, too bad, go pray.


'this' is going nowhere because it concerns only the afl.

Isn't it a fucking pity that's the case and it's none of your or any other football fan's fucking business. Or do you lot want to tell them what they can do too?

Football, the game of inclusion, as displayed once again in this thread.


To be fair I don't think you should be trying to tarnish football OR it's supporters because of the quality of people/thinking on this forum.

Internet forums in general are not representative of ANY sort of majority and are full of insignificant twerps who would piss themselves quite literally if they ever had to say half the things they say on here to a real life human being.

These people are also in the MINORITY on even this forum here so steady on with your own generalisations ;)


I've been around enough to know not to include the majority of football supports with this lot of feral rabble, whom i'd know are also a minority on this forum.

However, the rabble, having the biggest mouths and smallest minds are also the loudest and most damaging, presenting a damn poor example of a football supporter for anyone and everyone whom might have the misfortune to trip over the trash.

Credit to yourself for being one of a regular handful or two with the guts to speak up.


It's unfortunate how true this is for society in general really, isn't it.
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Joe Davola wrote:
Do they have prayer rooms at shopping centres?


Yes.

Edited by notorganic: 20/4/2012 12:47:15 PM
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Yeah sure if they want. Im not going to use them so this is a null issue to me. But if they want to pay money to see some of the game then go have a pray then come back and finish watching the game then i suppose they should have the opportunity to do so.

If thats putting them off coming to games maybe it is worth while in the end.
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Joe Davola wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Some interesting 'inclusive' comments from some supporters here. Obviously football is to be broadbased, but not quite that broadbased.


What are you on about?

Why is having a "prayer room" at a sports stadium an issue anyone should consider?

It's a bloody football stadium.

Do they have prayer rooms at shopping centres?

Do they have prayer rooms at cinemas?

Did Muslims even ask for this, or is it just AFL grandstanding?


You might need to find some other examples to throw up. You can choose the time you go to the shopping centre and similarly with the cinema to not conflict with prayer time. With a football game that choice of time is not available.
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The thread title needs to be changed to: Should government or privately run stadiums provide multi faith pray rooms?

The answer is of course, only if there is a true need. It doesn't bother me as I am unlikely to make use of one, but it would be nice to know that there is space available.

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notorganic wrote:
Joe Davola wrote:
Do they have prayer rooms at shopping centres?


Yes.


They do not have prayer rooms at all shopping centres.
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Just to be clear racism doesnt only cover ethnic groups , it covers nationality , religion , skin colour etc.

I agree any room should be multi-faith and yes we're a secular country and yes the country with the majority religion will claim it (this is by far not exclusive to christians)

I feel sorry for the millions of christians who have to live under self defined islamic states.

Edited by glory recruit: 20/4/2012 12:56:59 PM
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Ironic that AFl fans are the most racist bigoted insular c**ts on earth, the way the media try and put on this facade about afl being truly multi cultural and family friendly is laughable
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Davide82 wrote:


It's unfortunate how true this is for society in general really, isn't it.


Yes it is, but once again, i'd like to imagine those whom share a common interest in football with 'minorities' could behave a little better than the general public whom share no common bond.

Edited by skeptic: 20/4/2012 12:58:09 PM
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RedKat wrote:
Heineken wrote:
Fuck no. We're not an Islamic state. If you're Muslim, and have to go pray, then so be it, but you find your own secluded area. We're not here to wait on hand and foot for every one of your specific needs.


This.

We are a secular society and thus have no problem with allowing Christians, Jews, Muslims etc to follow their religions but it does not mean that we should cater for their every need when [size=8]it affects the Australian way of life.[/size] As mean as it sounds, if they don't like it, go to a muslim country that will have this.

Yes it may make Muslim fans feel more welcome but it alienates just about every other fan and thus is not something we need to look at or consider


How in God's name does a small room somewhere in the bows of a stadium effect YOUR way of life????!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gyfox wrote:
You might need to find some other examples to throw up. You can choose the time you go to the shopping centre and similarly with the cinema to not conflict with prayer time. With a football game that choice of time is not available.


Do they have prayer rooms at every concert venue in Australia?

I'm pretty sure 7th Day Adventists can't indulge in music & dancing, but I know for a fact our Muslim comrades love dancing & music.
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