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YouCanGo wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Interesting the contrasts in the throne room with Tommen (nice and bright and lightly) and Cersei (dark as fuck, brooding, scary). Can almost see that she will run things like a dictatorship lol (which might work against her in the future as the people might see Dany as a liberator or Cersei as a Mad King 2.0).
Some of my assumptions for the future;
There will basically be three big factions now
1. Jon/Sansa in the North with Winterfell, northerners, the Vale (and one can only assume now that they will take back Riverrun and the Frey's lands and put Edmure back in charge)
2. Cersei and the Lannisters in Kings Landing with the the other Ironborne to join up now that Theon and co have beaten him to the punch giving the Lannisters a fleet
3. Dany and all of her Unsullied, Dothraki, Dragons, Theon fleet and now Dorne/Highgarden
Some other things
-Arya will probably die when taking on the mountain -Jamie will head back to Casterlyrock to lead the Lannister armies there and look after that area -Hoping old mate black maester would have kept some of the Wildfire to help re-produce more of it as they are going to need it in the war to come (and seeing how it turned the battle of Blackwater Bay on it's head and nuked the septom it's obviously very handy) -Sam must clearly find something useful in the Citadel that will be important to where all this is heading -Bran will probably head south to find Jon to inform him of his revelation, thus in the process bringing down the wall letting the Walkers through
-PB ayra has to meet the red woman again too. She told her they would meet again when they were at the broless banners. Arya moving north and Mile moving south will surely have those two meet up with the Brotherhood as well as Sandor. -PB
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Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic...
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Glenn - A-league Mad wrote:Draupnir wrote:Fine, I will be the only one that includes Stannis in his theories.
Also, Cleganebowl will still happen. Yes, but I also think Clegane bowl will happen, be fitting if they both killed each other too. I also think Roberts Bastard son may pop up again. Maybe with the red woman. This time with a big fucking hammer...like his old man.:lol:
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Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well.
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notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. ..... and if we're being ultra pedantic, the L wasn't confirmed either - all we know is she was a mess in bed and then someone handed Ed Stark a baby :lol: Edited by pv4: 28/6/2016 02:38:30 PM
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paulbagzFC wrote:YouCanGo wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Interesting the contrasts in the throne room with Tommen (nice and bright and lightly) and Cersei (dark as fuck, brooding, scary). Can almost see that she will run things like a dictatorship lol (which might work against her in the future as the people might see Dany as a liberator or Cersei as a Mad King 2.0).
Some of my assumptions for the future;
There will basically be three big factions now
1. Jon/Sansa in the North with Winterfell, northerners, the Vale (and one can only assume now that they will take back Riverrun and the Frey's lands and put Edmure back in charge)
2. Cersei and the Lannisters in Kings Landing with the the other Ironborne to join up now that Theon and co have beaten him to the punch giving the Lannisters a fleet
3. Dany and all of her Unsullied, Dothraki, Dragons, Theon fleet and now Dorne/Highgarden
Some other things
-Arya will probably die when taking on the mountain -Jamie will head back to Casterlyrock to lead the Lannister armies there and look after that area -Hoping old mate black maester would have kept some of the Wildfire to help re-produce more of it as they are going to need it in the war to come (and seeing how it turned the battle of Blackwater Bay on it's head and nuked the septom it's obviously very handy) -Sam must clearly find something useful in the Citadel that will be important to where all this is heading -Bran will probably head south to find Jon to inform him of his revelation, thus in the process bringing down the wall letting the Walkers through
-PB ayra has to meet the red woman again too. She told her they would meet again when they were at the broless banners. Arya moving north and Mile moving south will surely have those two meet up with the Brotherhood as well as Sandor. -PB I mean, he wouldn't be out of place in Westeros:
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pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. It was more like R+L=A
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pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. Would be the biggest dickpunch to the audience in cinema/television/storytelling history if it wasn't, unforgivable. Surely it can be taken as read now that the kid is Jon.
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Draupnir wrote:Fine, I will be the only one that includes Stannis in his theories.
Ok seriously :lol: I really wanna know what makes you think he's still alive in the show?
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paladisious wrote:pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. Would be the biggest dickpunch to the audience in cinema/television/storytelling history if it wasn't, unforgivable. Surely it can be taken as read now that the kid is Jon. It's Jon, just the name given to him by Lyanna wasn't Jon.
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Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Playing the Jon motif and the transition from the baby's face to Jon's face, along with the mountain of circumstantial evidence? They couldn't have been more obvious unless Lyanna called the kid Jon.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:paladisious wrote:pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. Would be the biggest dickpunch to the audience in cinema/television/storytelling history if it wasn't, unforgivable. Surely it can be taken as read now that the kid is Jon. It's Jon, just the name given to him by Lyanna wasn't Jon. She probably called him a Targ name, but that would definitely arouse suspicion from Robert.
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433 wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:paladisious wrote:pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. Would be the biggest dickpunch to the audience in cinema/television/storytelling history if it wasn't, unforgivable. Surely it can be taken as read now that the kid is Jon. It's Jon, just the name given to him by Lyanna wasn't Jon. She probably called him a Targ name, but that would definitely arouse suspicion from Robert. Watched the scene a few times again and I'm 99% sure she tells Ned his name is something like Aegon. Ned obviously decides that just won't fly and names him after his friend and second father Jon Arryn.
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433 wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Playing the Jon motif and the transition from the baby's face to Jon's face, along with the mountain of circumstantial evidence? They couldn't have been more obvious unless Lyanna called the kid Jon. I suspect that Lyanna didn't call him Jon in favour of calling him something a bit more Targaryn'y, although the only way for Ned to fulfil his promise to keep Jon safe from Robert Baretheon was to change his name and keep the secret from everyone - including Caitlyn Stark. BUT I think Howland Reed knows. He's the only person left alive that knows other than what Bran has seen. We know that he's still alive and that Greywater Watch exists in the show because Jojen and Meera have talked about them. I think Howland might become a pretty important part of the last two seasons.
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notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Playing the Jon motif and the transition from the baby's face to Jon's face, along with the mountain of circumstantial evidence? They couldn't have been more obvious unless Lyanna called the kid Jon. I suspect that Lyanna didn't call him Jon in favour of calling him something a bit more Targaryn'y, although the only way for Ned to fulfil his promise to keep Jon safe from Robert Baretheon was to change his name and keep the secret from everyone - including Caitlyn Stark. BUT I think Howland Reed knows. He's the only person left alive that knows other than what Bran has seen. We know that he's still alive and that Greywater Watch exists in the show because Jojen and Meera have talked about them. I think Howland might become a pretty important part of the last two seasons. Chance that Bran goes south, finds Howland and thus has someone to back up what he's seen.
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Episode 10, The Winds of Winter, and ep 9, Battle of the Bastards, have both gotten perfect 10/10 scores on the IMDB's user ratings, and that's with a sample size of almost 100k votes for ep 9! That gives director Miguel Sapochnik 3 out of the top 4 episodes, also having directed Hardhome in equal 3rd alongside the The Rains of Castamere, the Red Wedding episode, with a rating of 9.9. Outstanding Director Emmy is in the bag, and I wouldn't mind betting that they'll improve on their record of 12 in a year with this season. Edited by paladisious: 28/6/2016 03:10:37 PM
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pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Well, the J part was confirmed as well. If we're being pedantic for the sake of it, the J part wasn't confirmed. ..... and if we're being ultra pedantic, the L wasn't confirmed either - all we know is she was a mess in bed and then someone handed Ed Stark a baby :lol: Edited by pv4: 28/6/2016 02:38:30 PM Aww come on now lol. Theories also say that it might confirm that J is Azor as well. -PB
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paladisious wrote:Episode 10, The Winds of Winter, and ep 9, Battle of the Bastards, have both gotten perfect 10/10 scores on the IMDB's user ratings, and that's with a sample size of almost 100k votes for ep 9! That gives director Miguel Sapochnik 3 out of the top 4 episodes, also having directed Hardhome in equal 3rd alongside the The Rains of Castamere, the Red Wedding episode, with a rating of 9.9. Edited by paladisious: 28/6/2016 03:04:24 PM Just give him all the remaining eps ffs lol. -PB
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paladisious wrote:Episode 10, The Winds of Winter, and ep 9, Battle of the Bastards, have both gotten perfect 10/10 scores on the IMDB's user ratings, and that's with a sample size of almost 100k votes for ep 9! That gives director Miguel Sapochnik 3 out of the top 4 episodes, also having directed Hardhome in equal 3rd alongside the The Rains of Castamere, the Red Wedding episode, with a rating of 9.9. Edited by paladisious: 28/6/2016 03:04:24 PM I read somewhere that the crush scene in Battle of the Bastards was basically directorial improv because the original plans for the scene didn't pan out. Which is insane, because it was the most physically claustrophobic I have ever felt from a piece of media.
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notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Playing the Jon motif and the transition from the baby's face to Jon's face, along with the mountain of circumstantial evidence? They couldn't have been more obvious unless Lyanna called the kid Jon. I suspect that Lyanna didn't call him Jon in favour of calling him something a bit more Targaryn'y, although the only way for Ned to fulfil his promise to keep Jon safe from Robert Baretheon was to change his name and keep the secret from everyone - including Caitlyn Stark. BUT I think Howland Reed knows. He's the only person left alive that knows other than what Bran has seen. We know that he's still alive and that Greywater Watch exists in the show because Jojen and Meera have talked about them. I think Howland might become a pretty important part of the last two seasons. Well it must be the case as didn't she whisper to protect him as Robert would kill him otherwise (knowing that that male baby has a right to the throne). -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Playing the Jon motif and the transition from the baby's face to Jon's face, along with the mountain of circumstantial evidence? They couldn't have been more obvious unless Lyanna called the kid Jon. I suspect that Lyanna didn't call him Jon in favour of calling him something a bit more Targaryn'y, although the only way for Ned to fulfil his promise to keep Jon safe from Robert Baretheon was to change his name and keep the secret from everyone - including Caitlyn Stark. BUT I think Howland Reed knows. He's the only person left alive that knows other than what Bran has seen. We know that he's still alive and that Greywater Watch exists in the show because Jojen and Meera have talked about them. I think Howland might become a pretty important part of the last two seasons. Well it must be the case as didn't she whisper to protect him as Robert would kill him otherwise (knowing that that male baby has a right to the throne). -PB It wasn't just that a male baby had a right to the throne - it was that Robert made it his mission to execute every single remaining Targaryen in existence, regardless of gender.
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notorganic wrote:paladisious wrote:Episode 10, The Winds of Winter, and ep 9, Battle of the Bastards, have both gotten perfect 10/10 scores on the IMDB's user ratings, and that's with a sample size of almost 100k votes for ep 9! That gives director Miguel Sapochnik 3 out of the top 4 episodes, also having directed Hardhome in equal 3rd alongside the The Rains of Castamere, the Red Wedding episode, with a rating of 9.9. Edited by paladisious: 28/6/2016 03:04:24 PM I read somewhere that the crush scene in Battle of the Bastards was basically directorial improv because the original plans for the scene didn't pan out. Which is insane, because it was the most physically claustrophobic I have ever felt from a piece of media. in a news article I was reading they said they changed it as the original script was going to be far too much to film in 28 days that they were given. So they changed it and removed a large chunk and replaced it with Snow nearly being trampled to death.
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pv4 wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Burztur wrote:Thinking about R + L = J, all that is really confirmed is the L part :)
Just being pedantic... Playing the Jon motif and the transition from the baby's face to Jon's face, along with the mountain of circumstantial evidence? They couldn't have been more obvious unless Lyanna called the kid Jon. I suspect that Lyanna didn't call him Jon in favour of calling him something a bit more Targaryn'y, although the only way for Ned to fulfil his promise to keep Jon safe from Robert Baretheon was to change his name and keep the secret from everyone - including Caitlyn Stark. BUT I think Howland Reed knows. He's the only person left alive that knows other than what Bran has seen. We know that he's still alive and that Greywater Watch exists in the show because Jojen and Meera have talked about them. I think Howland might become a pretty important part of the last two seasons. Well it must be the case as didn't she whisper to protect him as Robert would kill him otherwise (knowing that that male baby has a right to the throne). -PB It wasn't just that a male baby had a right to the throne - it was that Robert made it his mission to execute every single remaining Targaryen in existence, regardless of gender. This is what Oberyn was so pissed about in the trial against the Mountain. Robert sent the Mountain to kill Ellia and her half-Targ kids.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0764601/?ref_=nv_sr_2Sapochnik is also directing an episode of Netflix's next MCU series Iron Fist - starring Loras as Iron Fist/Danny Rand and Nymeria Sand as Colleen Wing
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Give Ser Davos an Oscar for that scene with Jon and the Red Woman
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SocaWho wrote:Give Ser Davos an Oscar for that scene with Jon and the Red Woman Yup legit welled up. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:SocaWho wrote:Give Ser Davos an Oscar for that scene with Jon and the Red Woman Yup legit welled up. -PB Davos is a Legend. Edited by MrBrisbane: 28/6/2016 05:47:08 PM
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