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The autopsy is what it is.  Just because you dont like the results doesnt make it untrue.  
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sydneyfc1987 - 1 Jun 2020 5:26 PM
ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 2:10 PM

Whenever something happens I also wonder if ol rusty will go there.

And yep, he went there. 

He's stooped lower so it's hardly a surprise. His noisome opinions cause deep antipathy.

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mcjules - 1 Jun 2020 6:44 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 1 Jun 2020 5:26 PM

He's stooped lower so it's hardly a surprise. His noisome opinions cause deep antipathy.

He has become a parody of his former self..  used to enjoy rusty as he used to argue the point without stupid low blows 
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The family of George Floyd has had a private autopsy performed on his body, with pathologists concluding that the cause of death was asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

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BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."

Looking forward to some of your responses.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 1 Jun 2020 8:24 PM
mcjules - 1 Jun 2020 6:44 PM

He has become a parody of his former self..  used to enjoy rusty as he used to argue the point without stupid low blows 

His decline is pretty much inline with the decline in the right of politics. 

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theFOOTBALLlover - 2 Jun 2020 7:25 AM
BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."

Looking forward to some of your responses.

I'm sure it'll be along the lines of "the ME was paid to say that" etc.

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theFOOTBALLlover - 2 Jun 2020 7:25 AM
BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."

Looking forward to some of your responses.

Straight from the autopsy report...
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mcjules - 2 Jun 2020 7:51 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 1 Jun 2020 8:24 PM

His decline is pretty much inline with the decline in the right of politics. 

How is this a left/right issue? Surely the right can’t be okay with a death in custody (at the bare minimum).
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Burztur - 2 Jun 2020 10:18 AM
mcjules - 2 Jun 2020 7:51 AM

How is this a left/right issue? Surely the right can’t be okay with a death in custody (at the bare minimum).

It's not, or at least it shouldn't be.

But just about everything eventually gets turned into left/right. Even COVID: thanks to Trump and his conspiracy theory free-dumb supporters wearing a mask us seen as a Democrat thing 

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sydneyfc1987 - 2 Jun 2020 10:27 AM
Burztur - 2 Jun 2020 10:18 AM

It's not, or at least it shouldn't be.

But just about everything eventually gets turned into left/right. Even COVID: thanks to Trump and his conspiracy theory free-dumb supporters wearing a mask us seen as a Democrat thing 

Yep I agree with this. My comment wasn't about this topic specifically, more about rusty's decline towards the same sort of fake news/post truth/bad faith arguments that the ruling parties in the murdoch-influenced anglosphere (that just happen to be right wing) are rolling with these days.

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rusty - 1 Jun 2020 5:48 PM
The autopsy is what it is.  Just because you dont like the results doesnt make it untrue.  

BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."

Just because you don't like the results doesn't make it untrue.   


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ErogenousZone - 2 Jun 2020 12:28 PM
rusty - 1 Jun 2020 5:48 PM

BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."

Just because you don't like the results doesn't make it untrue.   


I can't wait for his reply.
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theFOOTBALLlover - 2 Jun 2020 12:44 PM
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I can't wait for his reply.

It'll be something ludicrous I bet 
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Baden is a celebrity pathologist for hire, it would be harmful to his career to find against his clients wishes.  Note this is the same chap who determined Jeff Epstain was murdered, defended OJ Simpson at trial and makes frequent appearances on Fox News.  Nevertheless while his findings do provoke further investigation,  it doesn’t completely refute the original autopsy result.  I think another autopsy is warranted, this time by a completely independent examiner who has no skin in the game, who can provide unbiased findings.  It raises suspicions that one post mortem finds he was a perfectly healthy individual while another finds he had drugs in his system and heart disease, so its obvious that someone is taking the piss.

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rusty - 2 Jun 2020 1:15 PM
Baden is a celebrity pathologist for hire, it would be harmful to his career to find against his clients wishes.  Note this is the same chap who determined Jeff Epstain was murdered, defended OJ Simpson at trial and makes frequent appearances on Fox News.  Nevertheless while his findings do provoke further investigation,  it doesn’t completely refute the original autopsy result.  I think another autopsy is warranted, this time by a completely independent examiner who has no skin in the game, who can provide unbiased findings.  It raises suspicions that one post mortem finds he was a perfectly healthy individual while another finds he had drugs in his system and heart disease, so its obvious that someone is taking the piss.

Rusty.. go on the floor, face down, ask someone to put their body weight on your neck and another 3 on your body. Get them to do it for 9 minutes straight. Let me know how you go.
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Burztur - 2 Jun 2020 10:18 AM
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How is this a left/right issue? Surely the right can’t be okay with a death in custody (at the bare minimum).

Not at all sure, but surely the left cant be okay with all of the looting, setting fire to cars and builders, destroying businesses and assaults on police and innocent civilians?  Instead all you hear from their end is “ ohhhh but people are hurting and in pain waaaaah 😭”, totally rationalising the immoral and criminal behaviours of those perpetrating the chaos. I mean how many luxury jewellery shops need to be turned upside down before justice for Floyd is realised?  
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Sadly I dont think the left and right can ever reconcile.  Rather than condemning the totally unjustified and inexcusable riots and looting, the left is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad.  Whether its covid, riots, Russian interference, shooting massacres, everything is always Donald Trumps fault.  Trump blaming is full time job for leftists, with triple overtime. If you read CNN you wont find a single article condemning those individuals participating in the riots, just excuse after excuse and article after article trying to inflict damage on Trump.  If there’s something we can all agree on it should be that setting cities on fire, destroying businesses and attacking police is wrong, however many leftists, even those on here, are secretly delighted by whats going on, and when we cant even agree on the most basic moral principles that is why the left and right can never reconcile.

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Fuck the left and right
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Looks like Antifa have finally been recognised as a terrorist organisation. Interestingly, pallets of bricks have been left on various street corners with no construction sites nearby, as well as 'drink bottles' containing gasoline.

Wonder who's funding this mayhem? 
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rusty - 2 Jun 2020 1:57 PM
Burztur - 2 Jun 2020 10:18 AM

Not at all sure, but surely the left cant be okay with all of the looting, setting fire to cars and builders, destroying businesses and assaults on police and innocent civilians?  Instead all you hear from their end is “ ohhhh but people are hurting and in pain waaaaah 😭”, totally rationalising the immoral and criminal behaviours of those perpetrating the chaos. I mean how many luxury jewellery shops need to be turned upside down before justice for Floyd is realised?  

I don’t think anyone is “pro-looter”.
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rusty - 2 Jun 2020 2:30 PM
Sadly I dont think the left and right can ever reconcile.  Rather than condemning the totally unjustified and inexcusable riots and looting, the left is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad.  Whether its covid, riots, Russian interference, shooting massacres, everything is always Donald Trumps fault.  Trump blaming is full time job for leftists, with triple overtime. If you read CNN you wont find a single article condemning those individuals participating in the riots, just excuse after excuse and article after article trying to inflict damage on Trump.  If there’s something we can all agree on it should be that setting cities on fire, destroying businesses and attacking police is wrong, however many leftists, even those on here, are secretly delighted by whats going on, and when we cant even agree on the most basic moral principles that is why the left and right can never reconcile.

Go to their YouTube channel. They've had plenty of people on condemning the the looting. 

What's your opinion on the death of George Floyd? All I read is you complaining about the looting. Lets discuss George Floyd. 
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Front page of CNN
  • Pentagon officials express concern as Trump threatens to use military to 'dominate' protestors
  • Peaceful protestors near white house gassed, shot with rubber bullets as Trump leave for church photo-op
  • Im outraged’ Bishop overseeing church responds to Trump photo-op
  • Trump’s made-for-tv strongman act threatens American traditions
  • ‘Keep your mouth shut’, police chief responds to Trump
  • Trump is gift wrapping a propaganda win for China
  • Opinion: Trump is taking a page straight from CPP’s playbook
  • Anderson calls out Trump : ‘Who’s the thug here?’
And that’s just the front page.   Not a single article condemning the looters or pleading for peace.

And Mcjules complains about Murdoch 😅
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theFOOTBALLlover - 2 Jun 2020 4:07 PM
rusty - 2 Jun 2020 2:30 PM

Go to their YouTube channel. They've had plenty of people on condemning the the looting. 

What's your opinion on the death of George Floyd? All I read is you complaining about the looting. Lets discuss George Floyd. 

Every week African Americans shoot unarmed white people and no one gives a shit.  No protests, no looting, no anti black American feeding frenzy for the actions of minorites.  Stats also show blacks are far more likely to kill unarmed whites than the other way around.  Feel bad for Floyd but the statistics do not show racial bias in the use lethal police force.  The chap who did it is probably a murderer but that does not prove a racist motive, not does it make the entire police force guilty of systemic racism and oppression, in the same way that when a black kills an unarmed white does not make the entire black community murderers.

Ultimately the problem boils down to the mainstream medias narrow obsessive focus on police killings on unarmed blacks, reinforcing fake BLM narrative while omitting important contextual facts such as, 1. police kill more unarmed whites every year than unarmed blacks, 2. if you’re black you’re more likely to be killed by a fellow black than a member of police, 3. police brutality resulting in death is particularly rare.  The way the media covers these stories, while supporting fake narratives like BLM infers that police killings such as George Floyd happen frequently and must be racially motivated.  

At the end of the day George Floyd is one person and one particular incident does not prove the BLM narrative that cops deliberately set out to kill blacks.  Its bullshit and the media is guilty of perpetuating these myths and stoking fear, paranoia and resentment which has now manifested in these unjustified riots and opportunistic looting under the guise of justice for George Floyd.  

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rusty - 2 Jun 2020 4:28 PM
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Every week African Americans shoot unarmed white people and no one gives a shit.  No protests, no looting, no anti black American feeding frenzy for the actions of minorites.  Stats also show blacks are far more likely to kill unarmed whites than the other way around.  Feel bad for Floyd but the statistics do not show racial bias in the use lethal police force.  The chap who did it is probably a murderer but that does not prove a racist motive, not does it make the entire police force guilty of systemic racism and oppression, in the same way that when a black kills an unarmed white does not make the entire black community murderers.

Ultimately the problem boils down to the mainstream medias narrow obsessive focus on police killings on unarmed blacks, reinforcing fake BLM narrative while omitting important contextual facts such as, 1. police kill more unarmed whites every year than unarmed blacks, 2. if you’re black you’re more likely to be killed by a fellow black than a member of police, 3. police brutality resulting in death is particularly rare.  The way the media covers these stories, while supporting fake narratives like BLM infers that police killings such as George Floyd happen frequently and must be racially motivated.  

At the end of the day George Floyd is one person and one particular incident does not prove the BLM narrative that cops deliberately set out to kill blacks.  Its bullshit and the media is guilty of perpetuating these myths and stoking fear, paranoia and resentment which has now manifested in these unjustified riots and opportunistic looting under the guise of justice for George Floyd.  

Paragraph 1: Please send me your sources for these statistics. I'm not going to argue with you about them because I personally don't have the numbers. I'd be curious to see them.

Paragraph 2: Not sure what statistics you are using but here are a few things you need to remember. Check out why the 13th Amendment was created and how the police force, FBI, etc used it to disadvantage the African American population. Check out why electorate collage was created. Understand the history of America, slavery and how the African American community has been targeted ever since slavery was banned. Check out the the economic differences between white and African American families (white familes average almost $1 million in assets whilst African American families average $17k). What do you define as rare? Last year 1,099 people were killed by the police in the USA. That's 1,099 too many for me. Over 1,000 are killed on average. Police have a duty to protect the people and de-escalate every situation.

Paragraph 3: Please tell me why it's ok for police officers to do the white power sign? Please tell me why cops avoid conviction when they kill someone? Please tell me why it's ok for an ex police officer to follow Ahmaud Arbery for 4 minutes before his son shot him dead and be free for months before video footage came out? Please tell me why it's ok for police to enter the wrong house and kill Breonna Taylor with no consequences? These are just the cases from 2020.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/

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Les Gock - 2 Jun 2020 3:09 PM
Looks like Antifa have finally been recognised as a terrorist organisation. Interestingly, pallets of bricks have been left on various street corners with no construction sites nearby, as well as 'drink bottles' containing gasoline.

Wonder who's funding this mayhem? 

Well it's George Soros according to the '5G will kill you' mob.

Fucks sake.  Just exactly what would he gain by funding this clowns?


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theFOOTBALLlover - 2 Jun 2020 1:25 PM
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Rusty.. go on the floor, face down, ask someone to put their body weight on your neck and another 3 on your body. Get them to do it for 9 minutes straight. Let me know how you go.

Ahhh but all those underlying health conditions!

You get stepped on for 9 minutes and it's that damn anorexia/depression/cancer/skin condition's fault you die, not the asphyxia.

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