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The plane could have gone anywhere, so please show supportive evidence of your working and reasoning behind the conclusion that it didn't fly south of the equator.
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Pakistan woman stoned to death by family for marrying man she loved


By Mubasher Bukhari

LAHORE Pakistan Tue May 27, 2014 12:01pm BST

(Reuters) - A 25-year-old woman was stoned to death by her family outside one of Pakistan's top courts on Tuesday in a so-called "honour" killing for marrying the man she loved, police said.

Farzana Iqbal was waiting for the High Court in the eastern city of Lahore to open when a group of around dozen men began attacking her with bricks, said Umer Cheema, a senior police officer.

Her father, two brothers and former fiance were among the attackers, he said. Iqbal suffered severe head injuries and was pronounced dead in hospital, police said.

All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honour. Many Pakistani families think a woman marrying her own choice of man brings dishonour on the family.

Iqbal had been engaged to her cousin but married another man, Cheema said. Her family registered a kidnapping case against him but Iqbal had come to court to argue that she had married of her own free will, he said.

Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings, according to Pakistani rights group the Aurat Foundation.

The true figure is probably many times higher since the Aurat Foundation only compiles figures from newspaper reports. The government does not compile national statistics.

Campaigners say few cases come to court, and those that do can take years to be heard. No one tracks how many cases are successfully prosecuted.

Even those that do result in a conviction may end with the killers walking free. Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer.

But in honour killings, most of the time the women's killers are her family, said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation. The law allows them to nominate someone to do the murder, then forgive him.

"This is a huge flaw in the law," he said. "We are really struggling on this issue."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/27/uk-pakistan-honourkillings-idUKKBN0E715Y20140527?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=401
That's just fking disturbing. Poor girl.
With thousands of girls dying this way each year, how about a UN campaign with the slogan "There is no honour in killing"?
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Material on Australian shore examined in Malaysian jet hunt

April 23, 2014, 9:14 AM Last updated: Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 12:48 PM

By ROD McGUIRK

Associated Press


CANBERRA, Australia — Unidentified material that washed ashore in southwestern Australia and is being examined for any link to the lost Malaysian plane is unlikely to have come from the jet, an official said Wednesday.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau was scrutinizing photos of the object, which washed ashore 10 kilometers (6 miles) east of Augusta in Western Australia state. But Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the safety bureau, said an initial analysis of the material — which appeared to be sheet metal with rivets — suggested it was not from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

"We do not consider this likely to be of use to our search for MH370," Dolan told The Associated Press. "At this stage, we are not getting excited."

Dolan said the analysis of the material would likely be completed overnight and a formal statement issued Thursday. Augusta is near Australia's southwestern tip, about 310 kilometers (190 miles) from Perth, where the search has been headquartered.

Meanwhile, Australia's prime minister said Wednesday that failure to find any clue in the most likely crash site of the lost jet would not spell the end of the search, as officials plan soon to bring in more powerful sonar equipment that can delve deeper beneath the Indian Ocean.

The search coordination center said a robotic submarine, the U.S. Navy's Bluefin 21, had scanned more than 80 percent of the 310-square kilometer (120-square mile) seabed search zone off the Australian west coast, creating a three-dimensional sonar map of the ocean floor. Nothing of interest had been found.

The 4.5-kilometer (2.8-mile) deep search area is a circle 20 kilometers (12 miles) wide around an area where sonar equipment picked up a signal on April 8 consistent with a plane's black boxes. But the batteries powering those signals are now believed dead.

Defense Minister David Johnston said Australia was consulting with Malaysia, China and the United States on the next phase of the search for the plane, which disappeared March 8. Details on the next phase are likely to be announced next week.

Johnston said more powerful towed side-scan commercial sonar equipment would probably be deployed, similar to the remote-controlled subs that found RMS Titanic 3,800 meters (12,500 feet) under the Atlantic Ocean in 1985 and the Australian WWII wreck HMAS Sydney in the Indian Ocean off the Australian coast, north of the current search area, in 2008.

"The next phase, I think, is that we step up with potentially a more powerful, more capable side-scan sonar to do deeper water," Johnston told the AP.

While the Bluefin had less than one-fifth of the seabed search area to complete, Johnston estimated that task would take another two weeks.

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the airliner's probable impact zone was 700 kilometers (430 miles) long and 80 kilometers (50 miles) wide. A new search strategy would be adopted if nothing is found in the current seabed search zone.

"If at the end of that period we find nothing, we are not going to abandon the search, we may well rethink the search, but we will not rest until we have done everything we can to solve this mystery," Abbott told reporters.

"We owe it to the families of the 239 people on board, we owe it to the hundreds of millions — indeed billions — of people who travel by air to try to get to the bottom of this. The only way we can get to the bottom of this is to keep searching the probable impact zone until we find something or until we have searched it as thoroughly as human ingenuity allows at this time," he said.

The focus of the next search phase will be decided by continuing analysis of information including flight data and sound detections of the suspected beacons, Johnston said.

"A lot of this seabed has not even been hydrographically surveyed before — some of it has — but we're flying blind," he said, adding that the seabed in the vicinity of the search was up to 7 kilometers (4 miles) deep.

The search center said an air search involving 10 planes was suspended for a second day because of heavy seas and poor visibility.

But 12 ships would join Wednesday's search of an expanse covering 38,000 square kilometers (14,500 square miles), centered 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) northwest of Perth.

Radar and satellite data show the jet veered far off course on March 8 for unknown reasons during its flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing. An analysis indicates it would have run out of fuel in the remote section of ocean where the search has been focused. Not one piece of confirmed debris has been found since the massive multinational hunt began.

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Associated Press writer Kristen Gelineau in Sydney contributed to this report.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/material-on-australian-shore-examined-in-malaysian-jet-hunt-1.1001053
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thupercoach wrote:
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Pakistan woman stoned to death by family for marrying man she loved


By Mubasher Bukhari

LAHORE Pakistan Tue May 27, 2014 12:01pm BST

(Reuters) - A 25-year-old woman was stoned to death by her family outside one of Pakistan's top courts on Tuesday in a so-called "honour" killing for marrying the man she loved, police said.

Farzana Iqbal was waiting for the High Court in the eastern city of Lahore to open when a group of around dozen men began attacking her with bricks, said Umer Cheema, a senior police officer.

Her father, two brothers and former fiance were among the attackers, he said. Iqbal suffered severe head injuries and was pronounced dead in hospital, police said.

All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honour. Many Pakistani families think a woman marrying her own choice of man brings dishonour on the family.

Iqbal had been engaged to her cousin but married another man, Cheema said. Her family registered a kidnapping case against him but Iqbal had come to court to argue that she had married of her own free will, he said.

Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings, according to Pakistani rights group the Aurat Foundation.

The true figure is probably many times higher since the Aurat Foundation only compiles figures from newspaper reports. The government does not compile national statistics.

Campaigners say few cases come to court, and those that do can take years to be heard. No one tracks how many cases are successfully prosecuted.

Even those that do result in a conviction may end with the killers walking free. Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer.

But in honour killings, most of the time the women's killers are her family, said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation. The law allows them to nominate someone to do the murder, then forgive him.

"This is a huge flaw in the law," he said. "We are really struggling on this issue."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/27/uk-pakistan-honourkillings-idUKKBN0E715Y20140527?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=401
That's just fking disturbing. Poor girl.
With thousands of girls dying this way each year, how about a UN campaign with the slogan "There is no honour in killing"?


How about "stop applying fairy tales to real life"?
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Missing MH370 latest: Conspiracy theories as to what really happened


By Agencies

Published Saturday, June 07, 2014

This picture taken on March 31, 2014 shows a Malaysian Buddhist (R) wiping her tears as she offers prayers for passengers of missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 at a Buddhist temple in Kuala Lumpur. Malaysian Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus have come together to pray for the victims of flight MH370, offering glimmers of hope that deep divisions in the Muslim-majority multi-ethnic country could be overcome. (AFP)



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No firm evidence have been provided as to what really happened to missing flight MH370.

World's conspiracy theorists have weighed in with explanations of their own for the Malaysian Airlines plane's disappearance.

The plane was shot down

A new book, Flight MH370 – The Mystery, suggests that the missing Malaysian Airways plane may have been shot down accidentally by US-Thai joint strike fighters in a military exercise in the South China Sea. The book also claims that search and rescue efforts were deliberately sent in the wrong direction as part of a cover-up, the Daily Mail reports.

Alien abduction


Five per cent of Americans surveyed by Reason.com believe that the plane was abducted by aliens. Some bloggers have pointed to a number of recent UFO sightings in Malaysia as evidence for extraterrestrial intervention.

The Bermuda Triangle

The plane didn't actually fly anywhere near Bermuda, but some people – including one Malaysian minister – pointed out that the area where MH370 vanished is on the exact opposite side of the globe to the Bermuda Triangle. Unfortunately those people are wrong; the exact opposite side of the globe is closer to the Caribbean than Bermuda, The Sunday Times notes.

High-tech hijacking

The disappearance of flight MH370 may be down to the world’s first cyber hijack, according to the Sunday Express. It says that hackers could have accessed the aircraft’s flight computer and reprogrammed the speed, altitude and direction.

MH370 itself could be used as a weapon

Some people have expressed concern that the aeroplane may have been hijacked by terrorists and landed somewhere, to be used as a weapon at a later date.

Search to focus on '7th arc' in Indian Ocean

Based on new data and analysis, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) told the media that the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 will mainly focus on the "7th arc" in the Indian Ocean.

The total extent of the arc is from latitude 20 degrees south to 39 degrees south, reports ABC.

The ATSB added that the underwater search area will mostly likely be brought down to 60,000 square kilometres.

Australia probes British witness account

Australia was Wednesday investigating an account from a sailor who said she may have seen Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 on fire, as officials said the underwater hunt for the plane could dive much deeper.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), which is leading the search at the request of the Malaysian government, is looking at the claim from a British yachtswoman made this week.

"The ATSB received... a message from a member of the public, reporting that they had seen what they believed to be a burning aircraft in the sky above the Indian Ocean on the night of the disappearance of MH370," a spokesman told AFP in an email.

"That information has been forwarded to the ATSB's MH370 Search Strategy Working Group for review."

Flight MH370, which was en route from Kuala Lumpur to the Chinese capital Beijing when it inexplicably diverted, is believed to have crashed in the southern Indian Ocean.

An extensive search for the plane, which vanished on March 8 with 239 people on board, has so far found nothing, including an intensive underwater hunt with a mini-sub that could dive to 4,500 metres.

The ATSB on Wednesday released a request for tenders for a company to dive even deeper, to depths of up to 6,000 metres (19,800 feet).

It said the successful bidder would be engaged as a prime contractor and provide the expertise, equipment and vessels needed to carry out the search for the Boeing 777 from August.

"The successful tenderer will use the data from a bathymetric survey (already under way) to navigate the search zone, which has water depth between 1,000 and 6,000 metres," it said.

Bathymetry refers to the study of underwater depths of oceans or lakes.

An international team is now determining a search zone of up to 60,000 square kilometres (24,000 square miles) based on where the aircraft last communicated with an Inmarsat satellite.

'A glowing plane'

British yachtswoman Katherine Tee added to speculation about the location of a possible crash site by revealing she saw a glowing plane over the Indian Ocean in March.

The 41-year-old said she told Australian authorities of her sighting of a plane with "what appeared to be a tail of black smoke coming from behind it" while she travelled from Kochi in India to Phuket in Thailand.

"There were two other planes passing higher than it -- moving the other way -- at that time," she wrote on sailing site Cruisers Forum, a firm for which she also works.

"I recall thinking that if it was a plane on fire that I was seeing, the other aircraft would report it."

She said she told no one at the time because she and her husband, who was onboard but asleep, had been having difficulties and had not spoken for about a week.

"And most of all, I wasn't sure of what I saw," she said. "I couldn't believe it myself."

But after confirming her yacht's position using GPS data in recent days, she said she knew she was in the "right place at the right time" and told authorities.

MH370's last known position as tracked by military radar was roughly west of Phuket, although the search area has focused on a zone hundreds of kilometres (miles) further south.

In what could be another clue, researchers at Western Australia's Curtin University revealed Wednesday they had detected a low-frequency underwater sound which could have come from the plane.

A listening station off Rottnest Island, close to the Western Australia coast, picked up the signal at 0130 GMT on March 8.

Alec Duncan, from Curtin's Centre for Marine Science and Technology, said the noise could have come from the plane crashing.

"I wouldn't totally rule it out ... it's not impossible," he told AFP, but said it was more likely to have originated from a natural source, such as an earth tremor.

Iata to enhance aircraft tracking options

Following the disappearance of MH370, the International Air Transport Association (Iata) has announced plans to establish an industry task force to develop recommendations to improve global flight tracking.

Iata confirmed that the Aircraft Tracking Task Force (ATTF) expects to be in a position to deliver draft options for enhanced global aircraft tracking to the International Civil Aviation Organisation (Icao) in September, leading to presentation to the industry before year-end.

“Aviation stakeholders are united in their desire to ensure that we never face another situation where an aircraft simply disappears,” said Kevin Hiatt, Iata Senior Vice-President, Safety and Flight Operations.

“While states work through Icao to develop and implement performance-based global standards, the industry is committed to moving forward with recommendations that airlines can implement now,” he added.

The commitment made at the time of the task force announcement was to have them available by the end of 2014. Iata invited Icao and key stakeholders throughout the aviation industry to participate in the ATTF. The first meeting of the group was held on May 13, 2014.

Separately, but in conjunction with Iata, Icao held a Special Multi-disciplinary Meeting on Global Flight Tracking on May12-13. An outcome of the Icao meeting was a consensus among member states and the international air transport industry sector on the near-term priority to track airline flights. Icao will also begin considering performance-based international standards, on a priority basis, to ensure broader adoption of airline flight tracking across the aviation system.

Icao and Iata are working together to conduct a survey of vendors to identify options. Over the next few months, the ATTF will develop a set of performance-based recommendations to better ensure global aircraft tracking – meaning that there will likely be a number of options that airlines can consider.

These recommendations will be developed through an assessment of available products and services used for tracking commercial aircraft against specific criteria, including factors such as performance parameters, coverage, security, and cost. Additionally, the ATTF will define a minimum set of performance requirements that any system should achieve.

The ATTF includes representatives from Iata, Icao, Airlines for America, Association of Asia Pacific Airlines, Civil Air Navigation Services Organisation, Flight Safety Foundation, International Coordinating Council of Aerospace Industries Associations, International Federation of Air Line Pilots Associations, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, Airbus SAS, Bombardier Aerospace, and Embraer Commercial Aviation. [Staff]

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Undersea sound detected

A team of Australian researchers looking into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 released data on Wednesday about an unusual underwater sound recorded around the time the plane vanished, though the lead scientist acknowledged the chances it is linked to the jet are slim.

The low-frequency sound was picked up by underwater listening devices in the Indian Ocean off the west coast of Australia on March 8, the same day the Boeing 777 disappeared on a flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing with 239 people on board. Researchers at Curtin University in Western Australia have been analyzing the signal to see if it may be the sound of the plane crashing into the ocean.

But Alec Duncan, who's heading up the research, said the sound appears to have originated well outside the jet's projected flight path that officials determined based on satellite and radar data, and is therefore unlikely to have come from the plane.

"It's one of these situations where you find yourself willing it all to fit together but it really doesn't," said Duncan, senior research fellow with Curtin's Center for Marine Science and Technology. "I'd love to be able to sit here and say, 'Yeah, we've found this thing and it's from the plane' — but the reality is, there's a lot of things that make noise in the ocean."

The noise could have come from a natural event, such as a small earthquake, Duncan said. He put the chances of it being linked to Flight 370 at less than 20 per cent.

Soon after the search for the plane moved to the southern Indian Ocean, scientists from Curtin decided to check the data from their underwater acoustic recorders off Rottnest Island, near Perth, to see if they'd picked up anything of interest. The scientists normally use the recorders for environmental research, such as studying whale sounds. This time, however, the data showed a signal that they initially thought might be the aircraft crashing into the ocean — an event that would have produced a low-frequency sound that can travel thousands of kilometers (miles) under the right conditions, Duncan said.

Sailor reports seeing flight on fire

Meanwhile, a British sailor - who was at sea sailing from Cochin, India, to Phuket, Thailand with her husband on the night when the Malaysian plane disappeared – believes she saw a burning aircraft over the Indian Ocean.

She was alone on the deck when she sighted the plane and has filed an official report with authorities, reports DailyMail.


Chinese search ship in latest glitch


A Chinese ship mapping the ocean floor ahead of an intensive underwater search for missing Flight MH370 was returning to port Saturday due to a technical problem, officials said.

The massive Indian Ocean search for the Malaysia Airlines plane, which disappeared on March 8 carrying 239 people, has so far failed to find any sign of the Boeing 777.

The Chinese survey ship, Zhu Kezhen, was conducting a bathymetric survey -- or mapping of the ocean floor -- to help experts determine how to carry out the next stage of the search on the previously unmapped ocean seabed.

"Zhu Kezhen suffered a defect to its multibeam echosounder and is coming into port to conduct the necessary repairs," Australia's Joint Agency Coordination Centre said in a statement.

"The journey is expected to take a couple of days."

The head of Australia's transport safety bureau has defended the fruitless hunt for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, saying he is confident that search teams are targeting the right area.


Satellite analysis in the days after the Boeing 777 went missing on March 8 with 239 people onboard placed the jet somewhere in a huge tract of the Indian Ocean stretching from near Indonesia south towards Antarctica.

But in a setback, the area believed to be the jet's most likely resting place based on the detection of acoustic "pings" was Thursday ruled out after an extensive underwater search.

Australia's Transport Safety Bureau chief commissioner Martin Dolan told AFP the source of the acoustic transmissions, thought to be man-made, was still a mystery.

"To be frank, we don't know. We like to be the experts but sometimes we just don't know the answer," he said, refusing to speculate on whether they came from the Australian vessel hunting for signals from the aircraft's black boxes.

Dolan, whose organisation is playing a key role in the search effort, said the four signals detected in April were then the best lead in the hunt for the plane, which mysteriously diverted from its Kuala Lumpur to Beijing route.

"This was the best area to look at the time. We still don't have anything that confirms that it's the wrong place. But we will do our analysis and we will determine the best search area for the next phase."
Dolan said while experts were reassessing the satellite data that led the search to the southern Indian Ocean, the linear arc produced by analysis of this information still likely represented the plane's flight path.

"That arc is definite. We know that somewhere close to that very long arc is where the aircraft will be found," he said in an interview late Thursday.

The arc was produced by analysing satellite signalling messages, also referred to as "handshakes", between the ground station, the satellite and the aircraft's satellite communication system.

Dolan said experts believed the aircraft would be found near the area representing the last of these signals, thought to be have been sent when the plane ran out of fuel.

"The thing that we're absolutely confident of is somewhere on that long arc we will find the aircraft," he said.

"But because it's so long we have to be able to find a much smaller segment of the arc to concentrate our search and that's what our analysis is looking at defining.

"So we are reanalysing all the satellite data and aircraft performance information and everything else to define an area of up to 60,000 square kilometres, which is the most likely one for the location of the aircraft."

The next phase will focus on using the satellite data to confirm a search area, completing mapping of the sea floor and getting towable sonar and other equipment to carry out an intensive deep water search, which could take up to a year.

Dolan voiced confidence that investigators had been given all the information available, but said he could understand the anger of relatives still looking for answers almost three months after the plane went missing.

"We're conscious that people don't have a particular confidence in the analysis," he said. "We have a much higher confidence. But we are nevertheless doing a cross check to verify it."

Dolan said the search was considered unique because there was so little information to go on, likening it to a worst-case scenario for aviation safety authorities.

"In an organisation like mine you work out what's the worst thing that will ever happen and hope that it never does," he said.

"And Australia has been very good at managing the safety of aviation, but our worst case scenario is a widebody passenger aircraft in mid-ocean.

"We've actually got plans to deal with this sort of thing, we just hoped we would never have to use those plans for real."

Malaysia releases satellite data

Malaysia's aviation authority released on Tuesday satellite data used to determine that flight MH370 went down in the southern Indian Ocean following demands from sceptical relatives of those on board.

The Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) said in a statement it had worked with Inmarsat to provide 47 pages of data communication logs recorded by the British satellite operator as well as explanatory notes for public consumption.

Family members of the 239 people on board the Malaysia Airlines plane, which vanished on March 8, had demanded that raw satellite data be made public for independent analysis after an initial undersea search found no wreckage.

AFP was not immediately able to interpret the highly technical numerical data, which used the Doppler effect - the change in frequency of waves from a moving object - to decipher the Boeing 777's final flight path.

The DCA has previously stressed that satellite data was just one of several elements being examined by investigators.

Malaysian authorities have been tight-lipped on details, saying they can only divulge information once it has been verified and when its release will not affect ongoing investigations into the plane's disappearance.

But no sign of the plane has been found despite a massive and costly search for the flight that mysteriously diverted from its Kuala Lumpur-Beijing route 11 weeks ago.

Australia, which is leading the hunt in the Indian Ocean, has committed up to US$84 million towards the search operation over two years.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/missing-mh370-latest-conspiracy-theories-as-to-what-really-happened-2014-06-07-1.546548
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The disappearance of MH370 is one of the biggest mysteries of our time. And the fact that there still is no sign of it is amazing.

The idea that it may have been wirelessly hijacked is an interesting one and in this day and age, who knows what some people are capable of.

But if that was the case, what is the motive? If it was a more technically advanced terror group you'd expect they would have flown it into the Petronas twin towers in KL or a similar landmark building. And what has stopped them from hijacking another one since MH370.

I'm not buying the shot down theory either. Hundreds of boats and aircraft searched along the flight path and found nothing. I think it would be very hard for all the wreckage to be collected by the guilty party without anyone noticing.

I looked on google earth and traced back from the last contact to where they are searching off Perth and it seems to be more or less 180 degrees in direction to its flight path to china. It's as though the pilot has for what ever reason changed the auto pilot to directly fly back towards KL and it has continued over past the coast of Perth.

It's really amazing that there are so many theories and atleast one legitimate reason why that theory doesn't work. And at this moment I just can't tell which I believe because of that reason.
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big distraction and waste of time to keep plebians occupied
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Amazing how the 'Jews control the banking system and part of all our problems' can still be spread.

Interesting to see what becomes of Greece.


Well the Rothschild's are Jewish :d

And Jews also control Hollywood.
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Roar #1 wrote:
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Amazing how the 'Jews control the banking system and part of all our problems' can still be spread.

Interesting to see what becomes of Greece.


Well the Rothschild's are Jewish :d

[size=8]And Jews also control Hollywood[/size].


really? :shock: who is their CEO?
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ricecrackers wrote:
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Amazing how the 'Jews control the banking system and part of all our problems' can still be spread.

Interesting to see what becomes of Greece.


Well the Rothschild's are Jewish :d

[size=8]And Jews also control Hollywood[/size].


really? :shock: who is their CEO?


Jesus
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
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Amazing how the 'Jews control the banking system and part of all our problems' can still be spread.

Interesting to see what becomes of Greece.


Well the Rothschild's are Jewish :d

[size=8]And Jews also control Hollywood[/size].


really? :shock: who is their CEO?


Jesus

I thought it was Jerry Seinfeld.
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Draupnir wrote:
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Pakistan woman stoned to death by family for marrying man she loved


By Mubasher Bukhari

LAHORE Pakistan Tue May 27, 2014 12:01pm BST

(Reuters) - A 25-year-old woman was stoned to death by her family outside one of Pakistan's top courts on Tuesday in a so-called "honour" killing for marrying the man she loved, police said.

Farzana Iqbal was waiting for the High Court in the eastern city of Lahore to open when a group of around dozen men began attacking her with bricks, said Umer Cheema, a senior police officer.

Her father, two brothers and former fiance were among the attackers, he said. Iqbal suffered severe head injuries and was pronounced dead in hospital, police said.

All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honour. Many Pakistani families think a woman marrying her own choice of man brings dishonour on the family.

Iqbal had been engaged to her cousin but married another man, Cheema said. Her family registered a kidnapping case against him but Iqbal had come to court to argue that she had married of her own free will, he said.

Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings, according to Pakistani rights group the Aurat Foundation.

The true figure is probably many times higher since the Aurat Foundation only compiles figures from newspaper reports. The government does not compile national statistics.

Campaigners say few cases come to court, and those that do can take years to be heard. No one tracks how many cases are successfully prosecuted.

Even those that do result in a conviction may end with the killers walking free. Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer.

But in honour killings, most of the time the women's killers are her family, said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation. The law allows them to nominate someone to do the murder, then forgive him.

"This is a huge flaw in the law," he said. "We are really struggling on this issue."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/27/uk-pakistan-honourkillings-idUKKBN0E715Y20140527?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=401
That's just fking disturbing. Poor girl.
With thousands of girls dying this way each year, how about a UN campaign with the slogan "There is no honour in killing"?


How about "stop applying fairy tales to real life"?
Well yeah, but that goes for all religions. The campaign shouldn't be about faith but about controlling and intimidating women through "honour killing". If the UN were serious about improving the world, they could address the genuine misogyny in the world.
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afromanGT wrote:
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
RedKat wrote:

Amazing how the 'Jews control the banking system and part of all our problems' can still be spread.

Interesting to see what becomes of Greece.


Well the Rothschild's are Jewish :d

[size=8]And Jews also control Hollywood[/size].


really? :shock: who is their CEO?


Jesus

I thought it was Jerry Seinfeld.
Larry David actually.

My views on all this:

1) Jews have no place in Europe, it is an anti-Semitic continent. And with the Muslim influx the last 20 years, triply so.
2) The idiots who say things like "Jews control Hollywood" miss the point - forget controlling it, Jews were the ones who founded it. MGM, Paramount, all these companies were started by Jews in the 1920s. They took the traditions of Yiddish theatre that they brought from Eastern Europe and formed new types of entertainment in the US. So instead of being accusative, how about a big thank you for the film industry?
3) As for the banking industry - an oldie but a goodie. The Jews who came to America at the turn of the century were dirt poor and came to America with nothing. They lived in tenements and worked in sweatshops for Macy's and the like. They saw no virtue in poverty and made sure their children got an education. Their children and grandchildren built themselves up through hard work and imagination and many became very successful. They went on to found a number of banks and financial institutions.

No one gave them a monopoly, anyone else could've done it too. And many non-Jews did, of course. But somehow, a Jew with money is part of the stereotype whereas a non-Jew with money isn't.

Antisemitism, like any other form of racism, is for the dumb. The smart ones are busy doing stuff.
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The founder of Paramount William Hodkinson wasn't jewish.
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thupercoach wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
RedKat wrote:

Amazing how the 'Jews control the banking system and part of all our problems' can still be spread.

Interesting to see what becomes of Greece.


Well the Rothschild's are Jewish :d

[size=8]And Jews also control Hollywood[/size].


really? :shock: who is their CEO?


Jesus

I thought it was Jerry Seinfeld.
Larry David actually.

My views on all this:

1) Jews have no place in Europe, it is an anti-Semitic continent. And with the Muslim influx the last 20 years, triply so.
2) The idiots who say things like "Jews control Hollywood" miss the point - forget controlling it, Jews were the ones who founded it. MGM, Paramount, all these companies were started by Jews in the 1920s. They took the traditions of Yiddish theatre that they brought from Eastern Europe and formed new types of entertainment in the US. So instead of being accusative, how about a big thank you for the film industry?
3) As for the banking industry - an oldie but a goodie. The Jews who came to America at the turn of the century were dirt poor and came to America with nothing. They lived in tenements and worked in sweatshops for Macy's and the like. They saw no virtue in poverty and made sure their children got an education. Their children and grandchildren built themselves up through hard work and imagination and many became very successful. They went on to found a number of banks and financial institutions.

No one gave them a monopoly, anyone else could've done it too. And many non-Jews did, of course. But somehow, a Jew with money is part of the stereotype whereas a non-Jew with money isn't.

Antisemitism, like any other form of racism, is for the dumb. The smart ones are busy doing stuff.

Jews have it, as part of their culture, the virtue of obtaining an education.

No wonder they are successful.
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Roar #1 showing his true colours
not surprised to be honest
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2 confirmed antisemites on this forum.

- Roar 1#
- AfromanGT

Edited by humbert: 10/6/2014 06:25:56 PM
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Not directly related but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gja05symHkk
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humbert wrote:
2 confirmed antisemites on this forum.

- Roar 1#
- AfromanGT

Edited by humbert: 10/6/2014 06:25:56 PM

Never have I ever said anything dirogatory about the Jewish people or their faith. If you're going to call me names, get your fucking facts straight.
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afromanGT wrote:
The founder of Paramount William Hodkinson wasn't jewish.
No. But Zukor, Frohman and Lasky certainly were.
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humbert wrote:
Not directly related but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gja05symHkk

Wow.

The men in that video are way too obsessed with what women are wearing.
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afromanGT wrote:
humbert wrote:
2 confirmed antisemites on this forum.

- Roar 1#
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Edited by humbert: 10/6/2014 06:25:56 PM

Never have I ever said anything dirogatory about the Jewish people or their faith. If you're going to call me names, get your fucking facts straight.


Me either, if you think the little statement I made in jest was derogatory then someone needs to harden the fuck up.
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 showing his true colours
not surprised to be honest


And what colour am I?
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 showing his true colours
not surprised to be honest


And what colour am I?


stupid
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ricecrackers wrote:
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Roar #1 showing his true colours
not surprised to be honest


And what colour am I?


stupid


Ahh I see.

Please provide a link to a peer reviewed study confirming your hypothesis.
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u4486662 wrote:
humbert wrote:
Not directly related but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gja05symHkk

Wow.

The men in that video are way too obsessed with what women are wearing.


The Islamic world objectifies women. Have a read of some of the stuff by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, like "The Caged Virgin" for instance.
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 showing his true colours
not surprised to be honest


And what colour am I?


stupid

I don't recall ever seeing 'stupid' on the Dulux Colour Wheel.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 showing his true colours
not surprised to be honest


And what colour am I?


stupid

I don't recall ever seeing 'stupid' on the Dulux Colour Wheel.


:lol:
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lol @ Eric Cantor losing his seat to another Tea Party nutter.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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