Understood.

Which is why I was asking.

Pitiful. You have no comeback, so you pretend to take the moral high ground.

I only respond to people who argue in good faith. 

But if you’re gonna change Apu, then you have to change Bumblebee Man as that was a crude caricature of a Mexican.  You also have change the Italian chef, police officers Eddie, Lou and Chief Wiggum, the scenes where Homer feasts on seafood because that’s offensive to vegans, the scenes where Homer eats beef because that’s offensive to Hindus, the Christmas specials which might offend Muslims and Jews.  You have to change Homer being fat because that reinforces stereotypes about overweight people being addicted to food.  And why is Marge a bored housewife?  Misogyny!  And the worst one of all.. the Australia episode where they reinforced all kinds of offensive cultural stereotypes such as dingos eating babies, riding kangaroos and generally portraying Australians as backward and inbreds.  Oh I cried for days! 😭

If you’re gonna spend your life pandering to minorities why stop at Apu?  Literally you could get every single show banned on TV on the basis that “someone has an opinion.. and a group of others agree”.

TBF I've never liked the chef because it's a lazy caricature but no I wouldn't say it offends me. Having read the explanation as to why many south asians don't like Apu, I can definitely relate when the only characters of your ethnicity are negative stereotypes though. Was mostly that way growing up in the 80s.

I still don't see why its such a big deal if:
1. someone has an opinion
2. a group of others agree
3. a studio listens and makes changes accordingly

Matt Groening and the simpsons writers changing who Apu is and who voices him in future episodes is not the end of the world in my opinion. Or is it that you feel like you're being labelled a racist because you liked the character?

Sorry, should have clarified that I am Italian in this instance

Hafta ban everyfing

Ban simpsons mocks indian and mexicans
Ban souf park has a black character called token wacist ban it
Hafta ban cop shows encourages pwoice grorification and oppwession
Hafta ban movies like hangover makes fun of small dick chinese man
Hafta ban straya flag has brit symbol reminds indiginous of genocide
Haft ban Us flag used a symbol of patriotism = wacist
Hafta ban star spangled banner witten by a slave holder
Hafta burn all histowy books which grorify wacists like george washington, churchill 

That was absurd. A WHITE MALE telling PEOPLE OF COLOUR (they were Sri Lankan) about racism, when that very white man had darkened his skin with make up and put on a curly haired wig to play a black preacher on Saturday Night Live. 

Isn't that the very definition of whitesplaining?

I’m going to need to get a Cartman pop vinyl quick smart before he’s pulled

Who needs the Kwik-E-Mart? I dooooo. :(

Cheers.  Now I'm wondering if an Italian mate of yours found it offensive who's the final arbiter.

I mean if he creates a ruckus on Twitter and there's a pile on then he'll probably get his way.

Doesn't make it right though.

Funny how every stereotype on the Simpsons is fine but only Apu is a problem that needs addressing.

I'll answer that for you.

No.


Sidetrack,
I can't remember if it was this thread, or another one, where mcjules said something along the lines of "Even if I don't agree with it, it should still be around for archival purposes"
That's pretty much what I agree with around "things that outrage me".

BTW, everything that's being involved in this cancel culture doesn't outrage me. Some of it is cringe (some of Lilley's stuff for example), but it doesn't outrage me. Again, that probably speaks more of my own culture than the content. But, to use Lilley as an example again, people darkening their skin to ridicule a race, or a person who is a stereotype of a race, probably isn't a good thing.
Stories like a young kid who loves Nic Naitanui (even though he plays a devil sport) wanting to be just like him, are a little different. Context is king.

It blows my mind when the Twitter pile on starts that one of these companies just doesn't issue a statement and say 'noted but we're not pulling it'.

I'd imagine a steaming service standing up to virtue signalling SJWs would see a big uptake for sticking it up these clowns.

Does context extend to admiration?

Does context extend to satire?

Just wondering, given your Italian heritage, does the Italian chef on the Simpsons cause you grief, anguish and offence.

Genuine question.

Surely all comedy is offensive to some degree. 

Putting aside taking the piss out of Irish people, your mother in law, blondes for a minute. 

Observational comedy, probably the only  snowflake approved type, is ripping the piss out of something that someone is doing that is weird or counterintuitive.  And by default that person/s could be offended by their characterisation.

I mean fuck a duck things are going from bad to worse.

Inbetweeners has just be pulled.  Bunch of cunce.

That did not happen there at that time.  

The only exceptions have been South Park (Wheel of Fortune, people who annoy you) and RDJ (Tropic Thunder). Context is important.

Ok. The earlier article was more about the boy Rider.

The whole take Chase out is ridiculous...

So you missed the literally hundreds of clips of people looting & burning?   You missed the church that he went to was set on fire?  

2+2 does not equal 5.  

I thought Muz was a lefty to you?

Spoken like a true right winger.  Of course its offensive and racist.  Blackface was a humiliation for all black people regardless of its county of origin, it attacked people for their skin colour not their nationality.  

Do you think dressing up as Hitler and claiming its “for fun” is somehow going to make the jew find it less offensive?  Do you think the American Indian will find it cute when he sees a small boy dressed up as a cowboy and reminded who slaughtered his ancestors and stole their land?  Are Asians supposed to turn a blind eye when you wear clothes that are the product of slave wages?

Regardless of you opinion, it doesnt cost you anything not to wear blackface, you dont lose anything by not wearing it.  For a black person they are reminded of the humiliation, subjugation and oppression their ancestors suffered.

Please check your white privilege and work harder to overcome your implicit bias.

I'm pissed at Summer Heights High being taken off.  More pissed about this 'blackface' rubbish in Australia.  Yes in America it was a way to denigrate black people but it was, at least to my knowledge, never a thing in Australia.  Just more cultural appropriation of the US by our own set of handwringers and bedwetters.  (Briggs, Liz Cambage etc.)

I'll never forget that flog Harry Connick Jr ragging on the Indian fellas doing a Michael Jackson skit on Hey Hey and carrying on like an idiot.  https://www.smh.com.au/national/connick-jr-offended-by-hey-hey-its-saturday-blackface-skit-20091008-gng3.html

Liz Cambage particularly annoying calling out her own team mate of all people.  If you go to a party where it is 'come as someone you admire' and you admire a black person then what the fuck is the big deal with putting on dark makeup.  FFS.  https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/opals-forward-alice-kunek-apologises-after-angering-liz-cambage-with-blackface-post-20160221-gmzlg5.html

Yes if you black it up and then denigrate that person or race but fair dinkum give me a break if you trying to emulate someone you admire.

Happy to be convinced otherwise by an indigenous person.

😂 fuck me dead, you're right this isn't even a joke. 

You seriously have to be sick in the head of you have a problem with this cartoon, and want it removed. 

Um... that's what I said?

Erm no, its the “oh gawd the dog is a police officer, get rid of him”

That article seems to be more about kids who watch shows on an endless repeat, rather than "oh gawd the dog is a police officer, get rid of him"

The Paw Patrol issues have been discussed well before the current protests. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/sep/15/paw-patrol-the-megalomaniacal-kids-tv-show-thats-ruining-my-life