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the USA have change the way they are bombing ISIS in Iraq and Syria (you can thank Russia for this) any truck or Car or Building in a ISIS control zone, can now be class as a Iegitmate militaryTarget
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BETHFC wrote:
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1 year ago America was under pressure for doing nothing. Now every little incident is under scrutiny (in saying that this is not a little incident). I'm no expert but I imagine war is not as black and white as the general population expect it to be.

In this instance was the intelligence false? Did the Americans ignore intelligence?

Edited by bethfc: 21/7/2016 09:08:26 AM


We will never know.

But I would argue that it was unlikely deliberate, or through carelessness. They cannot afford these types of incidents from a propaganda perspective.


Indeed. What strikes me as odd though is that America didn't learn from Iraq. That war achieved nothing. The successes were offset by incidents such as these which only increased the level of hatred toward America. I can't see how the Syrian campaign will do anything but the same.

There is no point in the USA or any western country getting involved in this area of the world. People die for nothing.


things change...USA doesn't need oil from the Middle East any more , which means why should the USA intervene in Middle East secular problems...is it USA Fault that Iraq Government failed to govern for all people, is it USA Fault that Iran has attempted to take control of Iraq, Syria , Yemen?


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http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.
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View from the fence wrote:
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A young, somewhat attractive, somewhat talented rich white girl isn't the lovely darling we thought she was?!

What's more sad is that they I somehow know about this 'feud' between these plastic sociopaths


Very talented and very rich.

But she's had literally 10 boyfriends in the last 4 years, there's gotta be something wrong with her with that rate of turnover :lol:


None of them are s good as Kanye ?


Geez I am old. Do not understand whatsoever the obsession with Taylor Swift, either musically or looks. She is not unattractive, but people go on like she is the most beautiful woman on earth.

And as far as Kanye goes, I really think this is a case of "the emperor has no clothes". People go on like he is a musical genius.

Yeah, he has had some catchy songs, but it seems to me it is his antics that drive his popularity.

Edited by AzzaMarch: 20/7/2016 03:43:30 PM


Kanye has won like 20 Grammys. His popularity stems from the fact he has produced some of the best hip hop songs of the 21st century.

Personally I'd say he is a musical genius and can match it with anyone in the industry.


I meant, in the sack.


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View from the fence wrote:
View from the fence wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
View from the fence wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
marconi101 wrote:
A young, somewhat attractive, somewhat talented rich white girl isn't the lovely darling we thought she was?!

What's more sad is that they I somehow know about this 'feud' between these plastic sociopaths


Very talented and very rich.

But she's had literally 10 boyfriends in the last 4 years, there's gotta be something wrong with her with that rate of turnover :lol:


None of them are s good as Kanye ?


Geez I am old. Do not understand whatsoever the obsession with Taylor Swift, either musically or looks. She is not unattractive, but people go on like she is the most beautiful woman on earth.

And as far as Kanye goes, I really think this is a case of "the emperor has no clothes". People go on like he is a musical genius.

Yeah, he has had some catchy songs, but it seems to me it is his antics that drive his popularity.

Edited by AzzaMarch: 20/7/2016 03:43:30 PM


Kanye has won like 20 Grammys. His popularity stems from the fact he has produced some of the best hip hop songs of the 21st century.

Personally I'd say he is a musical genius and can match it with anyone in the industry.


I meant, in the sack.


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AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

Nah mate you're a liberal cuck socialist stooge not brave and manly enough to admit the truth of the matter which is that that one religion is inherently extreme and the cause of all human suffering and my irrational anger that I must pronounce dick-in-hand on the internet to show just how edgy and informed I am.

My face right now, not even your level pleb:



He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.

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AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

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SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.
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lol and with that Erdo and his 3 month state of emergency gives him 3 months of bypassing Parliament and basically all other checks and balances.

Should be enough time for him to whip the masses into a frenzy and into supporting him becoming a proper dictator :lol:

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US gumnut uncovers a heap of assets bought in the states with swindled Maylasian money, looks to be going all the way to the stop with the Prime Minister.

3bil in total found, at least 1bil of it in the USA alone.

Also cops shot a carer for an austistic person while lying down with their hands in the air.

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AzzaMarch wrote:

socawho wrote:

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.


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paulbagzFC wrote:
US gumnut uncovers a heap of assets bought in the states with swindled Maylasian money, looks to be going all the way to the stop with the Prime Minister.

3bil in total found, at least 1bil of it in the USA alone.

Also cops shot a carer for an austistic person while lying down with their hands in the air.

-PB


Who hires these cowboys?


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AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.


All it shows is the manipulation of data to claim that "lone wolves" are the main cause of terrorism in the West. Lone wolves that yell allahu akbar before opening fire on a bunch of homos dancing, plotting a truck through children watching fireworks or smashing an axe into people on a train. Demonstrating your own superficiality, confirmation bias and lack of interest in the facts by denying the cause of terrorism.
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911 was 4 lone wolves.

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AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.

So do you think Anders Brevik was a lone wolf as well or do you make him out be a religious Zealot?
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View from the fence wrote:
911 was 4 lone wolves.

The fact they spoke with each other and were plotting for the same day, same time , same aircraft was a sheer coincidence defying all odds that they couldn't have possibly colluded with each other .
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I went through that pdf file, it has "political" as its main reasons for lone wolf attacks, but i couldnt find what its sources are , and what kind of "lone wolf" attacks its referring too.
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I stopped reading when it said....


...and herein lies your problem ladies and gentlemen
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SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.

So do you think Anders Brevik was a lone wolf as well or do you make him out be a religious Zealot?


He was just a racist wannabee Nazi.
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Crusader wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.


All it shows is the manipulation of data to claim that "lone wolves" are the main cause of terrorism in the West. Lone wolves that yell allahu akbar before opening fire on a bunch of homos dancing, plotting a truck through children watching fireworks or smashing an axe into people on a train. Demonstrating your own superficiality, confirmation bias and lack of interest in the facts by denying the cause of terrorism.


You are missing my point. I am not questioning the religious motivations of lone wolves.

I was listing a bunch of conclusions made by the report. That was one of them.

I absolutely agree that, for the victims of terror attacks, whether the assailant was 'inspired' by ISIS, or acted as part of an organised group, is largely irrelevant.

But from a security perspective, it has relevance in terms of measuring ISIS's logistical capabilities.

Have a read of the report, I just listed some of the summary. It is actually quite an interesting read, and at least provides some relevant data on the topic.
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SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.

So do you think Anders Brevik was a lone wolf as well or do you make him out be a religious Zealot?


Why can't someone be a lone wolf AND be a religious zealot?

As far as Brevik goes, he is a self-stated atheist but "culturally Christian". He does not believe in god, but has conspiratorial views about "cultural Marxists" and the "islamification of Europe" which is quite similar to what gets posted on here at times.
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AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.

So do you think Anders Brevik was a lone wolf as well or do you make him out be a religious Zealot?


Why can't someone be a lone wolf AND be a religious zealot?

As far as Brevik goes, he is a self-stated atheist but "culturally Christian". He does not believe in god, but has conspiratorial views about "cultural Marxists" and the "islamification of Europe" which is quite similar to what gets posted on here at times.


He did the Nazi salute in court and thus fits into the 'white supremacist' bracket.
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Iridium1010 wrote:
I went through that pdf file, it has "political" as its main reasons for lone wolf attacks, but i couldnt find what its sources are , and what kind of "lone wolf" attacks its referring too.


Page 5 of the report:

"80 per cent of deaths in the West from lone wolf attacks being attributed to a mixture of right wing extremists, nationalists, anti-government elements, other
types of political extremism and supremacism".

The Annex starting on Page 92 goes through their methodology and results in detail.

So I don't really trust that you read much of the report.
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For those interested in the facts, the data in The Global Terrorism Index is put together by the University of Maryland in the US.

The Wikipedia post about it goes into their methodology for putting the data together -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Index
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The similarities between what's happening in Turkey at the moment and what happened in Iraq in 1979 are pretty fucking scary.
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Right wing terrorism (and left wing, if you look at Europe in the 60s and 70s) has been an ongoing problem in Western nations for decades, probably even centuries. That fact doesn't dispel the growing reality of Islamic violence in western nations. If an existing problem outweighs a growing but smaller problem, is it logical to downplay or dampen criticism of the growing but smaller problem? No, that would be illogical. Particularly if there are potentially very effective solutions to be considered.

Right wing terrorism does cause public outcry - I don't know how many are old enough to remember the outcry and navel grazing that the OKC bombing caused in the USA in 1994, but it was considerable. It even resulted in questions locally in Australia, such as the ability to manufacture anfofrom farm products.

There is considerable vested interest on both sides of the argument. For instance, data comparing Islamic terrorist attacks to other forms of terrorism presents one story. Data presenting Islamic terrorist attacks by year in Europe over the last 75 years would present another.
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AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

Given the concern and worry people have about terrorism at the moment, I found an interesting resource providing some facts and stats about terrorism.

Some interesting points in terms of the discussions we have been having on this forum are:

- Islamic fundamentalism was not the main cause of terrorism in the West over the last nine years. Eighty per cent of deaths by lone wolf terrorists in the West were driven by right wing extremism, nationalism, antigovernment sentiment and political extremism and other forms of supremacy.

- The majority of deaths from terrorism do not occur in the West. Excluding the September 11 attack, only 0.5 per cent of deaths from terrorism have occurred in the West since 2000. Including September 11, the percentage reaches 2.6.

- Lone wolf attackers are the main perpetrators of terrorist activity in the West. Seventy per cent of all deaths from terrorism in the West since 2006 were by lone wolf terrorists with the rest being unknown or group attacks by more than three attackers.

- Terrorist activity is a significant driver of refugee activity and internal displacement. The countries which are the greatest source of refugees and internally displaced people also suffer the most deaths from terrorism. Ten of the 11 countries that had more than 500 deaths from terrorism in 2014 had the highest levels of refugees and IDPs in the world.

- Terrorist activity is correlated with political violence. The research found that 92 per cent of all terrorist attacks between 1989 and 2014 occurred in countries where
political violence by the government was widespread.

- Terrorism is also intrinsically linked to a country’s safety and security environment. In the last 25 years, 88 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries that were experiencing or involved in violent conflicts. Less than 0.6 per cent of all terrorist attacks occurred in countries without any ongoing conflict and any form of political terror.

- There are different drivers of terrorism in wealthier countries than in poorer countries. In OECD countries socio-economic factors such as youth unemployment,
confidence in the press, faith in democracy, drug crime and attitudes towards immigration correlate significantly. In non-OECD countries factors such as a history of armed conflict, ongoing conflict within the country, corruption and a weak business environment are more strongly correlated.

I stopped reading when it said Islamic Fundamentalism was not the cause of Terrorism in the West.

](*,)

Edited by Socawho: 21/7/2016 12:47:12 PM


Maybe you should re-read that first line. Because it does not say what you think it says.

It said " Islamic Fundamentalism was not the MAIN cause of Terrorism in the West".

This is purely an analysis of numbers, and a statement of fact.

But your reaction was still great, because it beautifully demonstrates the problem with people of your ilk.

Superficiality, confirmation bias, and not being interested in facts.

So do you think Anders Brevik was a lone wolf as well or do you make him out be a religious Zealot?


Why can't someone be a lone wolf AND be a religious zealot?

As far as Brevik goes, he is a self-stated atheist but "culturally Christian". He does not believe in god, but has conspiratorial views about "cultural Marxists" and the "islamification of Europe" which is quite similar to what gets posted on here at times.

I think you imply that lone wolf and Religous zeal are exclusive of each other if the religion is Islam but if they were Christian then the two go together

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Meanwhile in the golden age of television, one of the leaders from KickassTorrents Website has been arrested

Kickass Torrents owner arrested
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If anyone is up for the read, Brevik's manifesto is fantastic.


https://publicintelligence.net/anders-behring-breiviks-complete-manifesto-2083-a-european-declaration-of-independence/


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Meanwhile in the golden age of television, one of the leaders from KickassTorrents Website has been arrested

Kickass Torrents owner arrested


You can't stop the Internet.


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