Yes, he's such a huge Democrat supporter that he called Obama's politics communistic and liked a Tweet saying he wants to destroy America.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/arcan-cetin-cascade-mall-burlington-washington-shooting-suspect-shooter-name/

I  already showed how Russia propaganda works,   on you

Who shot down MH17?

Australia Government (and i don't mean ALP or LIB, I mean the people who work for the Australia government  departments ) work on that  the Russian army move  buk missile from Russia army base to East Ukraine, and Shot down MH17 and then move the buk missile back to Russia 

Who Shot down MH17?

Russia propaganda , work by taking something that true,( or the most likely explanation)   and over loading are brains with as many other un ikely  explanation as they can get away with , because are media is free (more free) the media has to give some time to all those other possibilities (other veiw points)    

Russian explanation
Ukraine army shot down MH17
Ukraine Air forces shot it down
Plane just crash 
Bomb went off inside Plane
CIA took missing MH370, (that went missing) CIA land the plane in Guam, killed all MH370,passengers, tool plane and dead bodies to Ukraine where they crashed the plane to bame Putin for it
More crazy
more crazy
on it goes

This has a effect on are brains to process all these different theories , the brain can't hand it, so it shut down and we get answer like this  "i don't know who shot down MH17, it could have been anyone"     

Who Shot down MH17?

Russian propaganda did it job...

We now see Russian propaganda do the same with Red Cross trunks

who attach Red Cross trunks?

Russian explanation
Rebels shot it up
America drone bomb it
They all caught fire 
Rebels had a artillery next to Red Cross Trunks, that  artillery blow up
can't be bomb, no bomb holes (lost of boms don't leave big holes)
more crazy shit
more crazy shit

who attach Red Cross trunks?

oh, are you upset, is it  because you want the Western government brought down, but you know your man Trump is a fucking  idiot , who going to kill all the environment laws in USA...let mining anywhere

go smoke so weed, it will be all better soon

RE: Charlotte events, if he had a gun, why not just release the information etc about it?

They keep releasing a slow trickle of evidence that will supposedly back their case bar the most important part.

Or just accept that you fucked up and go from there.

Seems like soon as a black man is shot in the States they will need to call out the National Guard.

-PB

international investigation into the shooting down of MH17 came out today

Australia should be proud of both Tony Abbott, Julie Bishop and all the other Australian government workerss, because it was they who gave the Dutch and other EU countries some back bone  after Russia shot down and killed all those people flying to Australia

Russia shot down MH17, then lied about it,cover it up.and now Russia propaganda give out new crazy shit each new day

Vilify and Amplify: How the Kremlin’s Disinformation Machine is Attacking the MH17 Probe

The Kremlin has turned its disinformation machine on those who are investigating the shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over Ukraine in July of 2014, using state employees, state-run media, and the state-run, though unacknowledged, “troll factory” of fake Internet accounts. 
The primary goal of the media attacks has been to undermine the credibility of citizen journalist group Bellingcat, an independent researcher into the crash. [Editor’s note: Eliot Higgins, the founder of Bellingcat, is a nonresident senior fellow for Digital Forensic Research Lab with the Atlantic Council’s Future Europe program.] The Dutch Safety Board (DSB), which conducted an officialinvestigation in 2015 and concluded that MH17 was downed by a surface-to-air missile, has also been targeted. 


The attacks have followed a pattern that could be termed “vilify and amplify.” They come just before the publication on September 28 of the results of a criminal investigation into the crash by an international team led by the Dutch prosecutor’s office. 

These attacks reveal how the Kremlin public-relations machine works. They also reveal the extent of the Kremlin’s concern ahead of the publication of the criminal investigation. Going by the attacks on Bellingcat, the criminal investigation itself can anticipate a similarly aggressive response, should its findings be unfavorable to the Kremlin. 

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/vilify-and-amplify-how-the-kremlin-s-disinformation-machine-is-attacking-the-mh17-probe

Where most of the # TrumpWon (debate) on twitter come from,  St Petersburg, Russia



Where the #TrumpWon hashtag started - Russia.Not a joke.@20committee

Abbott thinks Putin is heavily behind the death of 38 Australians on MH17

Putin's response - 'so? those people aren't coming back'

it was a sad day

How Russia Has Obscured the Facts In the MH17 Investigation

It didn’t seem like the type of crime anyone could cover up. There were nearly 300 victims, 80 of them children, whose remains were scattered in fields of sunflowers for villagers and journalists to see.

Thousands of fragments of their passenger jet, a Boeing 777 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, had fallen across nearly 20 square miles of farmland in eastern Ukraine. Dozens of witnesses had seen the murder weapon, a Russian-made BUK anti-aircraft battery, trundling along the backroads of the warzone where the plane went down. There was plenty of evidence for the investigators to build a case.

On Wednesday, when they presented their arguments in Holland after two years of painstaking investigation, what evidence they had was put on display. The investigative team stated that, “without any doubt,” the BUK missile system had come from Russia. After shooting down the plane on July 17, 2014, the weapon was taken back to Russia the next morning. Not everybody agreed the evidence was so clear cut. Asked to respond to these allegations, a spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin offered this curt phrase: “There is nothing to accept or to deny.”

This followed a familiar pattern. Armed with an array of media outlets, the prime suspect in the investigation – the Russian government – has long been able to maintain an element of doubt, at least enough to shift blame, confuse the facts and delay the dispensation of justice. Rather than addressing the evidence of Russian culpability, the Kremlin and its television stations have introduced a variety of alternative theories, many of them self-contradictory and some patently absurd – such as the claim that a Ukrainian fighter jet was trying to shoot down Putin’s plane when it mistakenly hit MH17 in the same airspace.

Among the Russian public, this strategy of obfuscation has been remarkably successful. Two nationwide surveys conducted in Russia by the independent Levada Center polling agency have found that only 2% of Russians believe that the downing of MH17 was the fault of their government or its military proxies in eastern Ukraine. Despite the wealth of evidence to the contrary, the vast majority of respondents in those surveys blamed the Ukrainian authorities. About a fifth of them accused the United States.

It isn’t hard to figure out why. Right after the Dutch-led team of investigators presented their findings on Wednesday, the Russian government’s official paper of record, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, published a lengthy report rehashing the Kremlin’s various accounts of what happened. That report did not even bother to mention the investigation’s key finding: that the missile came from Russia. A report from the Kremlin’s main news network did at least acknowledge the accusation, but its headline suggested what readers should make of it: “Dutch MH17 investigation: Don’t expect any evidence, but the BUK was Russian.”

In reality there were troves of evidence, including intercepted phone calls, photos and videos of the BUK being transported and thousands of boxes of wreckage and shrapnel collected from the crash site. But in the conference hall where these findings were presented, in the Dutch city of Nieuwegein, reporters for Russian state television were on hand to accuse the investigators of bias. One of them, a journalist for state-run Channel One, suggested that Russia had “at least offered to give your team several documents” as evidence, but the investigators did not accept the Russian offers, he said, “because they did not support your scenario.”

One of the lead investigators, Wilbert Paulissen, replied that Russia had not provided any such material, even though his team had visited Moscow and repeatedly requested information from the Russian side. The head of the investigative team, Fred Westerbeke, added that Russia had only provided “partial answers” to some of the team’s questions.

Earlier that day, Westerbeke had the unenviable job of meeting with the families of the victims and explaining to them that, despite the progress in the investigation, they were still a long way from getting justice. “It’s impossible to state when it will be done,” he said. “So this morning I told the grieving relatives that I can’t make any promises.”

The official mandate of the investigation team – which includes officials from the Netherlands, Malaysia, Australia, Ukraine and Belgium – was extended this week until the beginning of 2018. But the investigators acknowledged on Wednesday that they have no idea when the evidence would be sufficient to name the suspects and bring criminal charges. Nor were they able to say what court might hear the case.

In order for them to make a real breakthrough, the investigators would need Russia to cooperate by addressing the evidence that the BUK missile came from Russian territory, and to explain what happened to this weapon once it was returned to Russia. They would also need to question witnesses or suspects in Russia, including military personnel who may have been involved in deploying that missile system to Ukraine.

But there is no sign that Russia is prepared to meet any of those requirements, let alone extradite potential suspects to stand trial in a foreign court. In his response to the investigators on Wednesday, Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the BBC: “We cannot accept as a final truth what they say, and I bet you haven’t seen any proofs of their statements.”

Inside Russia, that would be a safe bet, because the vast majority of Russians get their information from the Kremlin’s media outlets. In order to maintain their cover up of this tragedy, it turns out Russia does not need to hide the facts of the case or the clues that were scattered in those fields of wheat and sunflowers in eastern Ukraine. It only needs to cloud the debate with alternative truths of its own invention.

http://time.com/4512834/mh17-russia-buk-ukraine-evidence-putin/?xid=time_socialflow_twitter

When did Congress think it was smart to pass a bill that would allow people to try and sue another country?

Wtf?

-PB

Because how is it meant to work lol?

What court would hear these cases?

Who pays the damages lol?

-PB

Russia government TV says... civilian dead in Aleppo, is ok, because it much less the American killed in Dresden WWII,,,West is just being anti-Russia again  because Russia is great

I guess it be ok that Russia nuke a city in Europe, because USA did in WWII,

Tardddthoooooo grrooaannnn

-PB

Meanwhile in Columbia, right wing fuckwits strike again:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-37537252

Peace referendum with FARC voted down by half a percent

which Middle East country is Dresden in?

your reply was of a fool like paulbagzFC

HAR HAR SUCH FOOL U IS ARDY!

-PEEBEE

https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/9174473.shtml

if you don't understand it

Moscow between 4th Oct to 7th Oct will practices evacuating' 40 million people to Nuke bunkers

lel Russia trolling hard

-PB

Russia builds huge underground shelters in Moscow as it prepares for NUCLEAR WAR with West

RUSSIA has built massive nuclear bunkers capable of providing shelter to Moscow's 12million people as Vladimir Putin gears up for a devastating nuclear war with the West.

The giant bunkers, which were revealed by Russian officials on Friday, are a response to mounting tensions between the Kremlin and Washington over Russia's intervention in Syria's civil war.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/717295/russia-vladimir-putin-nuclear-way-america-aleppo-west-john-kerry-obama-syria-isis

lol all this rhetoric out of the UN is becoming annoyingly painful.

All these "scathing condemnations" of the Syria/Russia group for their bombing in Allepo.

All words, no substance. Those words won't stop civies and medical works getting their shit pushed in with barrel bombs, phospho bombs or the likes.

-PB

Disappointing to witness the demise of this thread. Was once full of nonsense. Now altogether too sensible.

France to call for Russia to face war crimes investigation over actions in Syria
French foreign minister will ask International Court of Justice to intervene following Russian veto of UN draft resolution to reinstate a ceasefire in the Syrian conflict

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-syria-war-crimes-investigation-france-international-court-of-justice-a7353486.html

Russia starting to worry about a hillary Government instigating ww3 

how do you get that , from France to call for Russia to face war crimes investigation over actions in Syria?

Stop the War confirms they won't march against Russia

Stop the War will only march on USA wars :laugh:

Stop the War  also warns of jingoism and hysteria against Russia.  


Russia is bombing a city to the ground,  and Stop war call it jingoism and hysteria against Russia.

How France's TV5 was almost destroyed by 'Russian hackers

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37590375

MEPs call for 'proper' EU counter-propaganda unit

The European Parliament has urged the EU to expand its counter-propaganda unit in reaction to Russian and jihadist disinformation campaigns.

https://euobserver.com/foreign/135461

The Kremlin Playbook 

A former U.S. State Department official is the report's lead author and U.S. officials said they concur with the findings on Russia's involvement in Eastern Europe.

"The Russians have been engaged in a sustained campaign to recapture what Putin considers their rightful buffer in Eastern Europe, and to undermine not just NATO and the EU, but the entire democratic foundation of both institutions," said a U.S. official who has studied Russian behavior since before the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991.

The official requested anonymity because, he said, the White House has ordered officials not to publicly discuss hostile Russian activities.

Those activities, he said, include bribery, propaganda, disinformation, "the occasional" assassination of Kremlin critics at home or abroad, and now using the internet to undermine opponents and weaken Western institutions.

http://europe.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-russia-white-house-eastern-europe-foreign-policy-bulgaria-509478

The Trump camp must be kicking themselves that these guys are white

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/14/three-kansas-men-calling-themselves-crusaders-charged-in-terror-plot-targeting-muslim-immigants/?utm_term=.549d988db030