Brazil in talks to hire 6,000 Cuban Doctors

Brazil has begun negotiations to hire at least 6,000 Cuban doctors to work in rural areas, Brazilian Foreign Minister Antonio Patriota says.

Both countries are consulting the Pan American Health Organisztion to allow Cuban doctors to practise in Brazil.

Most Brazilian doctors are concentrated in the country's bigger cities, leaving remote areas badly covered.

Cuba has already sent tens of thousands of doctors to work in Venezuela, which in turn provides Havana with cheap oil.

There was no deadline yet for the doctors' arrival in Brazil, Mr Patriota told reporters after meeting his Cuban counterpart, Bruno Rodriguez, in the Cuban capital.

A Brazilian doctors' organisation, the Federal Medical Council, said the proposal was "irresponsible" because of questions surrounding medical qualifications. It condemned the step as a "politico-electoral" programme.

'Pharmaceuticals'
The talks with Cuba were initiated by President Dilma Rousseff in January last year, during her visit to Havana.

At the time, Ms Rousseff also spoke about joint production of medicine, another topic mentioned by Mr Patriota on Monday.

"Cuba is very proficient in the areas of medicine, pharmaceuticals and biotechnology and Brazil is considering receiving around 6,000 Cubans doctors or a little more," said the Brazilian Foreign minister.

Both countries also discussed infrastructure projects in Cuba "such as the Mariel port, and also the refurbishment of the airports in Havana and Santiago, which will also be financed by Brazil," Mr Patriota said.

Brazil is expected to loan $176m (£113m) from its development bank BNDES for work at Cuban airports, Reuters reported.

Cuban authorities say Brazil is its sixth biggest trading partner and main food supplier.

Bilateral trade between the two countries reached a record $661m last year, up 6% on 2011.

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I was just referring to Nazi torchlight rallies of the 1930s. Should be on YouTube - check it out, it's a scary sight.

Huh?

The World Jewish Congress is being held in Budhapest. The Jobbik (Hungarian for 'better') Party - a far-right organisation - have been holding anti-Semitic rallies across the city.

Torchlight?

Israel have bombed a Syrian Weapons Convey, the second airstrike they've conducted in Syria in about 3 days, and the third since the start of the year.

Quite frankly, given the dire situation the Syrian governments in, I'm surprised they'd be willing to send precious weapons to Lebanon.

There have been anti-Jew rallies all week in Hungary.

We can sustain it better than europe though as Ken points out...the resistance over there to migration is not as blindingly xenophobic as its made out to be....shows up in the Ukip's support being broader than just fringe right wingers or ultra nationalists.

The thing with infrastructure...if we had more lower cost, construction sector migrant labour then we would be able to build the country up further.

But yeah of course with Straya being so run by unionists its no surprise wages here are incompatible with major projects that are not public funded. Hopefully the Libs get in, grow a pair and deregulate the fuck out of this country. Then we'd be able to fulfill some of that potential....we have more than enough foreign capital here, its really labour market costs that hold things back.

Australia can't sustain it either. Everyone wants to come here for the 'rockstar' lifestyle. Working from nothing to owning it all and subsequently nobody builds up the infrastructure which would sustain the kind of expansion which people purport this country to have the potential for.

800,000 Polish people have come to England since Poland came into the EU. Australia is a big country, it can afford to fill the "land of opportunity" role, Britain is not and has millions unemployed. It's not about multiculturalism, it's about how many people Britain can sustain.

Fark me, some people are theorising that the Texas Plant Explosion was caused by someone shooting a rocket at it >.<

-PB

Varies depending on which end of the 'libertarian' scale...

so classical liberals more so...there is probably a mix of reasons varying from cultural to practical...especially on issues of the welfare state where they would see a more open borders mentality as incompatible with maintaining a social safety net. There is probably also a social and cultural cohesion rationale too.

Minarchists less so, but most likely still on national defense issues (and by that i mean real defense, not US style offense or expansionary militarism)....also to protect gains made by more liberty orientated societies from external influence.

then u have Anarcho-Capitalists who are anti statist and anti nationalist by extension in most cases. I see this as an end point libertarian philosophy...utopian...we'd need to be further advanced in other cultures for true Ancap to work, at least on a species, post nationalist/statist level. Though some ancap folks would probably agree with a nationalist framework to 'protect' an internal ancap society.

Its hard to answer any 'what do libertarians think' type questions, as it is the classic choose your own adventure type philosophy ;)

Do libertarians believe in nationalism, and if so, why?

Nigel Farage seems pretty cluey on economics...he was at the Sovereign Man conference in Chile recently...alongside an all star cast of Jim Rogers, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff. Will be drooling over that vid if it ever hits Youtube. They've only been releasing bits and pieces of it so far.

Im a little more open to multiculturalism myself than the UKIP seems to be, at least from what i know of them. But then we are in Australia and not the UK...its us who should be filling the 'land of opportunity' role. Cant figure why anyone would migrate to europe these days if they had more of a choice, i guess its just an obvious and more porous bordered option than elsewhere.

UKIP have done very well in the local elections, won't do much for Westminister, but it's stood to represent a change of opinion that the big parties will have to work with. They're the Eurosceptic party.

What's come up recently?

So... UKIP, thoughts?

Ignore it, IMO. Any freedom lost since 2001 is a win to the terrorists, not to democratic societies.

Norway got it right with their own religious terrorist incident (a right wing christian) - they responded by not taking away any freedoms or rights, mourning the dead, beginning the legal process and celebrating an open & free democracy.

As their Prime Minister said:

So how should we deal with Islamist terrorism? If at all. Notor, feel free to add your bit too.

Fuck me dead rofl :lol:

So only people who immigrate here can become Islamic Radicals or terrorists in general? :lol:

David Hicks?

-PB

Oh my :lol:

Where to even begin? :lol:



So how shall we call a spade a spade then?

All Muslims or those of Islamic faith are crazy terrorists?

They all fight this one cause to see all white westerners/Christians die?

Nobody has ever denied that the Boston bombers had Islamic tendencies, but you have to realise that he was an extremist who had derived his logic and way of thinking from Islamic extremists.

I am not saying terrorism should be taken lightly, but the way you are talking is stereotypical American Media 101 all-Muslims-are-terrorists rhetoric.

-PB

Yes, it has been, given that we're in a war whether you chose to accept it or not, and there have been a number of terrorist attempts that have been foiled due to those laws.

And yes, we should behave differently. If citizens of a country - US and England - can turn against the country that they either grew up in or gave them a home then a special eye ought to be kept on those communities. What's to say that another cricket loving bunch of guys whose parents came Australia and started a new life won't turn radical and do the same thing in Sydney in the name of Islam? Or their version of it. It's happened before, who's to say it won't happen again?

This is already happening, apparently the Federal Police and Asio have a good working relationship with imams who are happy to point out a potential suspect if they feel a member of their congregation is very far along in his views.

I am not certain they have that working relationship with the Catholic church just in case someone called O'Brien or whatever decides to go off to Ireland and let off a bomb in Belfast.

Because when it's the same "cause" in the name of which innocent people lose their lives it is something that can be fought against in a concerted effort. We shouldn't be afraid of calling a spade a spade, or keep a special eye on a group that is more likely to offend.

This was Islamist terrorism in Boston, just like it was in so many other places. If we pretend it isn't we are weakening efforts to defend ourselves against it.

This kind of terrorism touches all of us. I personally know about 5-6 people who've run the Boston marathon over the years. The husband of a very distant relo in NY was in a building 100 yards from the twin towers when the planes hit. He walked home to Brooklyn and the family spent the day not knowing if he'd lived or died.

I know plenty of Londoners and Aussies who've been on the same subways that were bombed by the same kind of terrorists, in the name of much the same "cause". And every second Aussie's been to Bali.

Yeah, it's personal. Islamist terrorism affects us personally in a way that murderers like Timothy McVeigh never could. That's what makes them successful. If you don't see it, maybe you should grow up and have some kids.

They say 9/11 was the most successful act of terrorism of all time. Not only did they kill 3,000 innocent people, but for the cost of a few hundred grand and a few effectively suicide killers they tied up America into a war that is financially bleeding it dry. And America's financial health affects all of us in the Western world.

So yeah, the least we can do is call a spade a spade.

Yes.

Then again, do you think that because it can that it will? Should we behave any differently because of the possibility?

The rights and privacy of Western populations have eroded significantly since the 2001 attacks, has it been worth it?

Violence and atrocities can happen anywhere, why does it matter what the offender has as his/her faith?

-PB

If it happened in New York, London, Madrid, Bali and Boston it can happen right here.

No?

I never bluetext

In Townsville? :lol:

'avin a laff m8.

Maybe in Melbourne :p ;)

-PB

Shariah Law taking over our great nation affects us all, pal. You won't be so flippant when your shiela is wearing a burkha.

Why so serious thuper?

The religious alignment of an attacker on the other side of the world affects you how?

-PB

Well I first thought that Boston wasn't, but there you go. Should've gone with my gut instinct.

Will never make that mistake again.

Edited by thupercoach: 30/4/2013 05:15:44 AM