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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:02 AM
No one here care to comment on Joe Biden’s advice that in order to curb police fatalities they should shoot suspects “in the leg”, rather than the body? Oh that’s right, you probably wouldn’t know he said this since Facebook and Twitter have teamed up with the Democrats to censor negative publicity that’s makes Biden look bad. 

He's made that comment several times. Yes, it's stupid. Fortunately for Biden, that's the worst thing he's said and it isn't having an impact. 
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Burztur - 18 Oct 2020 12:48 PM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:02 AM

He's made that comment several times. Yes, it's stupid. Fortunately for Biden, that's the worst thing he's said and it isn't having an impact. 

He says a lot of stupid things that arent covered by mass media. He said that Americans “didnt deserve” to know his position on court packing. He gets confused about whether he is running for President or Senate. He pronounced Kamala Harris as “Cam-ala” but it is apparently only racist when a republican says it. He forgot Mitt Romneys name and referred to him as the “mormon senator”. He forgot what state he was is and said the wrong State. He said that 200 million American died of Covid. He said terrible things about black people. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
https://youtu.be/ce78r-a3wlI

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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 1:40 PM
Burztur - 18 Oct 2020 12:48 PM

He says a lot of stupid things that arent covered by mass media. He said that Americans “didnt deserve” to know his position on court packing. He gets confused about whether he is running for President or Senate. He pronounced Kamala Harris as “Cam-ala” but it is apparently only racist when a republican says it. He forgot Mitt Romneys name and referred to him as the “mormon senator”. He forgot what state he was is and said the wrong State. He said that 200 million American died of Covid. He said terrible things about black people. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
https://youtu.be/ce78r-a3wlI

Hahahaha.  Nothing Biden says in the next 3 weeks, even if he went hammer and tong every day, would even be 1/100th of the dumbarse things Trump has said or done?

Nuke a hurricane anyone?


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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 1:40 PM
Burztur - 18 Oct 2020 12:48 PM

He says a lot of stupid things that arent covered by mass media. 

Sky news is 24 hour negative Biden, pro Trump coverage.

Fox News, the highest rated cable channel in the US is a Trump propaganda machine.

Just about every columnist in a Murdoch newspaper is pro Trump.

So what are you on about? 
 





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Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 7:30 PM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 1:40 PM

Sky news is 24 hour negative Biden, pro Trump coverage.

Fox News, the highest rated cable channel in the US is a Trump propaganda machine.

Just about every columnist in a Murdoch newspaper is pro Trump.

So what are you on about? 
 



The difference is Fox, Sky etc will report on negative news or allegations about Trump, whereas as the left wing media juggernaut will treat everything anti Trump as FACT and will outright refuse to report on anything negative about Biden, dismissing them as conspiracy theories therefore un-newsorthy. This was recently highlighted when an article surfaced that claimed to have proof that Joe Biden lied about his associations with Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, however despite the story leading the Fox News website for days CNN and other outlets flat out refused to report it. Facebook and Twitter banned it from being disseminated, citing that because the evidence may have been hacked that it violated their policies. Notice that such policy violations apparently dont occur when the Presidents taxes are apparently hacked or obtained illegally.  Rules for thee but not for me.

I dont really care about the bias of CNN and others, although infuriating and unfair, they are private commercial entities and can report on whatever keeps their viewers happy. But Facebook and Twitter getting in on the act to deliberately stifle information about Biden that may damage his credibility is an egregious attack on free speech and democracy.

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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 9:44 PM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 7:30 PM

The difference is Fox, Sky etc will report on negative news or allegations about Trump, whereas as the left wing media juggernaut will treat everything anti Trump as FACT and will outright refuse to report on anything negative about Biden, dismissing them as conspiracy theories therefore un-newsorthy. This was recently highlighted when an article surfaced that claimed to have proof that Joe Biden lied about his associations with Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, however despite the story leading the Fox News website for days CNN and other outlets flat out refused to report it. Facebook and Twitter banned it from being disseminated, citing that because the evidence may have been hacked that it violated their policies. Notice that such policy violations apparently dont occur when the Presidents taxes are apparently hacked or obtained illegally.  Rules for thee but not for me.

I dont really care about the bias of CNN and others, although infuriating and unfair, they are private commercial entities and can report on whatever keeps their viewers happy. But Facebook and Twitter getting in on the act to deliberately stifle information about Biden that may damage his credibility is an egregious attack on free speech and democracy.

24 carat bollocks.

And here's a newsflash facebook and twitter are 'private commercial entities' too.  




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Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 9:50 PM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 9:44 PM

24 carat bollocks.

And here's a newsflash facebook and twitter are 'private commercial entities' too.  


This.

It’s a pretty shit situation when media (Twitter and Facebook included) are all private entities and it’s up to their discretion to cover or not cover.

The only real solution is to have public awareness and to take in multiple sources of information.

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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 1:40 PM
Burztur - 18 Oct 2020 12:48 PM

He says a lot of stupid things that arent covered by mass media. He said that Americans “didnt deserve” to know his position on court packing. He gets confused about whether he is running for President or Senate. He pronounced Kamala Harris as “Cam-ala” but it is apparently only racist when a republican says it. He forgot Mitt Romneys name and referred to him as the “mormon senator”. He forgot what state he was is and said the wrong State. He said that 200 million American died of Covid. He said terrible things about black people. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
https://youtu.be/ce78r-a3wlI

You’re right. Biden has made a number of gaffes. I don’t really want to compare, but versus Trump, Biden  shouldn’t be too concerned.



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Do have to laugh at Rus and his ilk talking about the MSM like they don't know how to do their job.

In this article linked there's a video from Planet America from that lefty lynch mob the ABC going to town on Hunter Biden.  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-15/why-twitter-blocked-a-new-york-post-story-about-hunter-biden/12770732

Of course something about this sort of thing getting no coverage etc etc.


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Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 9:50 PM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 9:44 PM

24 carat bollocks.

And here's a newsflash facebook and twitter are 'private commercial entities' too.  


Sure, but ‘private commercial entities’ can also launch egregious attacks on free speech and democracy. Its one thing to report a biased view and its another to censure a particular viewpoint or sensitive information because of how it might impact your preferred presidential candidate. 

When all is said and done the left do not believe in free speech, so they do not care about cancelling or censoring right wing or centre right viewpoints. That is why Muz, a hard leftist, has no qualms about organisations like Twitter and Facebook colluding with Democrats to shield the public from information that is potentially damaging to Biden, when the objective is to win power at all costs rather than pursue truth. Its why Muz, rather than condemning this obvious election interference, pointed to how they are are ”private commercial entities too” in a clumsy and asinine attempt to morally justify it. 

Also can you tell me what issues Fox News, Sky etc have deliberately under reported or not reported on to protect Trump? 

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Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 10:12 PM
Do have to laugh at Rus and his ilk talking about the MSM like they don't know how to do their job.

In this article linked there's a video from Planet America from that lefty lynch mob the ABC going to town on Hunter Biden.  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-15/why-twitter-blocked-a-new-york-post-story-about-hunter-biden/12770732

Of course something about this sort of thing getting no coverage etc etc.

Isnt it telling that you found that on ABC Australia and not ABC USA
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Burztur - 18 Oct 2020 10:02 PM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 1:40 PM

You’re right. Biden has made a number of gaffes. I don’t really want to compare, but versus Trump, Biden  shouldn’t be too concerned.



Um, everyone should be concerned that the guy running for POTUS thinks he is running for Senator. That is far more serious than just a gaffe.
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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:17 PM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 9:50 PM

Sure, but ‘private commercial entities’ can also launch egregious attacks on free speech and democracy. Its one thing to report a biased view and its another to censure a particular viewpoint or sensitive information because of how it might impact your preferred presidential candidate. 

When all is said and done the left do not believe in free speech, so they do not care about cancelling or censoring right wing or centre right viewpoints. That is why Muz, a hard leftist, has no qualms about organisations like Twitter and Facebook colluding with Democrats to shield the public from information that is potentially damaging to Biden, when the objective is to win power at all costs rather than pursue truth. Its why Muz, rather than condemning this obvious election interference, pointed to how they are are ”private commercial entities too” in a clumsy and asinine attempt to morally justify it. 

Also can you tell me what issues Fox News, Sky etc have deliberately under reported or not reported on to protect Trump? 

I'm not justifying twitter or facebook at all so you can stop with the pathetic verballing of me.  A free enterprise, let the market decide bloke like you should be all in on 'private enterprises' doing whatever the hell they want in any case.  Obviously they can do whatever they want when it suits you but not when it doesn't.

As for the 'truth' do you think it's coincidental that 95% of the editors across the world of Murdoch newspapers editorialise that climate change isn't human induced or do you think there's an underlying pattern here handed down from on high?  Implied or directed.  It doesn't matter.

Ready Rus.  A concentration of media ownership, left or right leaning, is bad for society and democracy.      

And what have Fox or Sky deliberately under reported or not reported?  Well the list is endless but how about these for starters of the top of my head;

Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Severity of Covid 19
The death toll of Covid 19.  (Constantly comparing it to car accidents, heart attacks etc etc.  Downplaying the danger.  Basically complicit in the deaths of 10's of thousands.)
Trump's failure to wind back Obamacare and replace it with a better health system.
The wall or lack thereof and Mexico's refusal to pay for it.
Immigrant caravans and the danger they pose to society (but only when a senate election is in the offing.)
Trump's nepotism on a grand scale.
Trump's emoluments issues.
Trump's endless conflicts of interests.
Anything that comes out of Jeanine Pirro's head.  Also Hannity & Carlson.
Trump's tax issues.
Trump's debts.  (See conflict of interests.)
Trump's woeful debate performance.
Trump's recklessness in holding rallies whilst possibly being still contagious with Covid.

I'll add to this list as I remember more of them. 


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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:28 PM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 10:12 PM

Isnt it telling that you found that on ABC Australia and not ABC USA

Well Rus I'm not au fait with every tv show on every tv network in the USA but if I stumble across something I'll be sure to let you know.


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rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:31 PM
Burztur - 18 Oct 2020 10:02 PM

Um, everyone should be concerned that the guy running for POTUS thinks he is running for Senator. That is far more serious than just a gaffe.

I think Biden just went to autopilot since he's been in the Senate for so long. It is a concern but I wouldn't read too much into it. 

At the end of the day, I'd imagine most Dems would think he is far from the ideal candidate but still better than Trump. The test will be on Nov 3 to see if the rest of the country think so too.
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Munrubenmuz - 18 Oct 2020 11:43 PM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:17 PM

I'm not justifying twitter or facebook at all so you can stop with the pathetic verballing of me.  A free enterprise, let the market decide bloke like you should be all in on 'private enterprises' doing whatever the hell they want in any case.  Obviously they can do whatever they want when it suits you but not when it doesn't.

As for the 'truth' do you think it's coincidental that 95% of the editors across the world of Murdoch newspapers editorialise that climate change isn't human induced or do you think there's an underlying pattern here handed down from on high?  Implied or directed.  It doesn't matter.

Ready Rus.  A concentration of media ownership, left or right leaning, is bad for society and democracy.      

And what have Fox or Sky deliberately under reported or not reported?  Well the list is endless but how about these for starters;

Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Severity of Covid 19
The death toll of Covid 19.  (Constantly comparing it to car accidents, heart attacks etc etc.  Downplaying the danger.  Basically complicit in the deaths of 10's of thousands.)
Trump's failure to wind back Obamacare and replace it with a better health system.
The wall or lack thereof and Mexico's refusal to pay for it.
Immigrant caravans and the danger they pose to society (but only when a senate election is in the offing.)
Trump's nepotism on a grand scale.
Trump's emoluments issues.
Trump's endless conflicts of interests.
Anything that comes out of Jeanine Pirro's head.  Also Hannity & Carlson.
Trump's tax issues.
Trump's debts.  (See conflict of interests.)
Trump's woeful debate performance.
Trump's recklessness in holding rallies whilst possibly being still contagious with Covid.

I'll add to this list as I remember more of them. 

Wow,  the delusion is strong in this one. 

Fox have covered all of the above in detail, particularly with respect to Russia and Covid. There was no attempt to play it down or bury it in the lifestyle section. Russia collusion was proven to be a hoax yet dominated the narrative for two years. As for Covid WHO recently recommend countries NOT to lock down, citing the devastating impacts on the economy. Are they guilty of playing it down, or putting money before lives?  Thought so...

As for Trump's tax issues this has been covered ad nauseum, just because you don't like HOW they covered it is entirely different from neglecting to mention it because of how it might impact the Presidents election chances. Just do a quick search on ' Trump Taxes' in the Fox News search bar and there's a fuck ton of articles on Trump's taxes, yada yada. Fox might be biased, but it covers news, even if the news might be unfavorable to republicans. On the other hand CNN, ABC, MSNBC frequently and deliberately cover up and  refuse to report on news that is unfavorable to Biden and the Democrats. Hunter Biden, Burisma, the origins of the Russia collusion hoax, Biden's rape accuser, Democrats spying on Trumps campaigns, Biden's mental state, these are all no go zones for the left wing media. In addition he is rarely challenged on his SCOTUS court packing stance, his flop flopping on fossil fuels and defunding police, failing to condemn antifa etc. 

As for the wild claim that 95% of news corp editors editorislise that human induced climate change is false, this simply isnt true.
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'no attempt to play it down'.  Fucking lol.

There's only one 'deluded' bloke on this page.

Every single piece of negative reportage on Trump is rebutted by Fox and Sky.  Just turn on the tv for 10 minutes.  It's incessant.  

You're either blind and deaf or wilfully ignorant.


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Burztur - 19 Oct 2020 12:23 AM
rusty - 18 Oct 2020 11:31 PM

I think Biden just went to autopilot since he's been in the Senate for so long. It is a concern but I wouldn't read too much into it. 

At the end of the day, I'd imagine most Dems would think he is far from the ideal candidate but still better than Trump. The test will be on Nov 3 to see if the rest of the country think so too.

6:40 in on this Planet America episode they covered this. He muddled his tenses up but it's another one of those misleading edits that the Trump campaign have been doing
https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2014H037S00


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I love that it's the best the Trump campaign has against Biden lol

Yeah don't vote for this guy coz of that! 

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mcjules - 19 Oct 2020 10:30 AM
Burztur - 19 Oct 2020 12:23 AM

6:40 in on this Planet America episode they covered this. He muddled his tenses up but it's another one of those misleading edits that the Trump campaign have been doing
https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2014H037S00

Thanks. 
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Not going to lie. The most entertaining thing on this forum of late has been Rusty's posts.

His own goal with the facemask article was just brilliant.


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sydneyfc1987 - 19 Oct 2020 1:42 PM
Not going to lie. The most entertaining thing on this forum of late has been Rusty's posts.

His own goal with the facemask article was just brilliant.

 🤣🤣 . Rusty becoming more and more unhinged 
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Munrubenmuz - 19 Oct 2020 7:49 AM
'no attempt to play it down'.  Fucking lol.

There's only one 'deluded' bloke on this page.

Every single piece of negative reportage on Trump is rebutted by Fox and Sky.  Just turn on the tv for 10 minutes.  It's incessant.  

You're either blind and deaf or wilfully ignorant.

And every single piece of negative of reportage on Biden is rebutted by CNN and MCNBC. It's incessant.

I'm not even talking about rebuttals, I'm talking about the deliberate and blatant cover up by left wing media outlets like CNN, MSNBC in collusion with social media tech firms to HIDE news that is unfavourable to Biden. That is, the failure to report news that is of the national interest, and the censure and locking of Twitter users for disseminating news that is of national interest, and Facebeook manipulating algorithms to restrict its reach. This is simply unprecedented and is a deliberate attempt to interfere and influence the outcome of the election, under the false pretense of fact checking and restricting unverified reports, even though those rules don't seem to apply to fake news about Trump. 

I  know that somewhere  deep down inside your lost soul you know this is a major infringement on free speech, an autocratic manouvre by Democrats and left wing oligarch to dictate public opinion and steal the election. You can try to point the finger at Fox and Murdoch all you like but like  fake Russia collusion scandals, court packing, defunding police, cancel culture and antifa bashings this is just another instance of the left trying to impose democratic socialism on the public without the democracy.

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 🤣🤣 . Rusty becoming more and more unhinged 

It's like there always has to be someone peddling those RWNJ fringe opinions on this forum. When Batty and crackers were here, rusty was far more moderate.

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 19 Oct 2020 4:41 PM

It's like there always has to be someone peddling those RWNJ fringe opinions on this forum. When Batty and crackers were here, rusty was far more moderate.

Finky was good value though. Rusty on the other hand has just gone fringe lunatic with his rants
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paulbagzFC - 19 Oct 2020 11:25 AM
I love that it's the best the Trump campaign has against Biden lol

Yeah don't vote for this guy coz of that! 

-PB

- packing supreme court with ultra left progressives because they don’t like conservatives
- most expensive fake political scandal in history costing $32 million USD
- out of control looting and riots in in Democrat cities
- defunding police and weakening law and order
- increased shootings and crime in Democratic cities
- enabling left wing hate groups like antifa to inflict violence on protestors without reproach
- colluding with tech firms to suppress free speech
- fake narrative to about systemtic racism to antagonise blacks into voting
- blaming coronavirus on Trump
- encouraging violence against Trump supporters
- condoning tearing down of monuments and desecration of America’s history

Yeah brah it’s slim pickings.
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mcjules - 19 Oct 2020 4:46 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 19 Oct 2020 4:41 PM

It's like there always has to be someone peddling those RWNJ fringe opinions on this forum. When Batty and crackers were here, rusty was far more moderate.

The left made me bitter and unhinged. When they were about funding education, schools and increasing taxes 2% I was far more measured, but ever since they’ve gone full on batshit insane with their psychotic defund the police, BLM, whiteness is racism, men can have babies, burn down society agenda, I‘ve struggled to deal with the rape and disembowelment of truth and logic. 

Gotta fight kooky with kooky

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rusty - 19 Oct 2020 7:34 PM
mcjules - 19 Oct 2020 4:46 PM

The left made me bitter and unhinged. When they were about funding education, schools and increasing taxes 2% I was far more measured, but ever since they’ve gone full on batshit insane with their psychotic defund the police, BLM, whiteness is racism, men can have babies, burn down society agenda, I‘ve struggled to deal with the rape and disembowelment of truth and logic. 

Gotta fight kooky with kooky

Yes . A typical rusty rant.
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rusty - 19 Oct 2020 7:18 PM
paulbagzFC - 19 Oct 2020 11:25 AM

- packing supreme court with ultra left progressives because they don’t like conservatives
- most expensive fake political scandal in history costing $32 million USD
- out of control looting and riots in in Democrat cities
- defunding police and weakening law and order
- increased shootings and crime in Democratic cities
- enabling left wing hate groups like antifa to inflict violence on protestors without reproach
- colluding with tech firms to suppress free speech
- fake narrative to about systemtic racism to antagonise blacks into voting
- blaming coronavirus on Trump
- encouraging violence against Trump supporters
- condoning tearing down of monuments and desecration of America’s history

Yeah brah it’s slim pickings.

Yeh those are a things Trump did lol

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https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC - 20 Oct 2020 7:18 AM
rusty - 19 Oct 2020 7:18 PM

Yeh those are a things Trump did lol

-PB

You tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.
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