All Israeli airstrikes are responses to unguided rockets being fired across the border constantly with no military objective but simply to hit civilians. If you're talking about the flotilla raid, what do you expect to happen when you sail into a naval blockade.

Although i am one who believes the economic blockade should be lifted.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/world/middleeast/rocket-fire-from-gaza-shakes-cease-fire-with-israel.html?_r=0

And in other news Mugabe has been re-elected:roll:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/03/world/africa/zimbabwe-election/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Edited by Iridium1010: 4/8/2013 12:32:18 PM

Yeah..."re-elected".

I cant believe that you all consistently think that Israel only acts in self defence. Its really just unfathomable that you would think that Palestine is the cause for all military engagement.

Oh, so you now it was a naval blockade. Are they really allowed a naval blockade in international waters? If they are, then why would they just attack the ship and not bother to find out whats going on?

Care to answer my Al-Aqsa issue?

Dont get me started on Zimbabwe. That place makes me weep.

:lol:



I believe they boarded the ship, were attacked and they shot, in any case Israel has apologised to Turkey for the incident.

The what issue:o

Apologies make it all better.

Al-Aqsa. Why does Israel feel the need to occupy and control Al-Aqsa mosque



Edited by zimbos_05: 4/8/2013 12:57:24 PM

So launching rockets does not constitute military engagement?

10 pages later...still arguing.

Not saying it doesnt, but to think that it is only Palestine launching rockets is silly. Its a two way street. Israel is not the innocent bystander.

They're both dicks.

/argument

You must be new to the internet :lol:

Well a bit of common sense you don't charge into a naval blockade and then attack when boarded.

The entire city of Jerusalem is under israeli control which it gained in the 6 day war.

They didnt charge a naval blockade. There were in International waters on their way to providing aid when they were stopped and illegelly boarded.

So you first take a city thats not yours, then you dont allow the people the chance to enter a holy mosque that is theirs, instead you tell them to go to the other mosque pretending its the same one when it actual fact, it is not.

They were going to, they clearly left with the intention of breaking the Israeli blockade, whether you disagree with it or not even i know that is stupid, they then refused to follow the Israeli navy to port, when they did board them, they attacked them.



Generally in war you take cities, the Jordanians which controlled East Jerusalem had amassed thousands of troops along with Egypt and Syria with the purpose of destroying Israel, Israel became aware and launched a pre emptive strike against the egyptian air force.

As for the mosque, as far i've read it is under muslim administration and muslims are allowed to pray there, except some young palestinian men for security.

http://dawn.com/news/1033802/170000-pray-at-al-aqsa-mosque

Btw i didn't take the city;)

You do take cities, but then if you serious about democracy and civility, you give that city back.

Last you read. If its under Muslim, why are muslim youth not allowed to pray there? Surely we have the technology to find out if someone is wired up if that is the concern?

What could be the reason for denying Muslims the right to pray in a land that is so sacred to them. I really would like to know the importance of the land in which Al-Aqsa presides to the Jews.

It has been nice debating with you Zimbos, but i can not answer those questions;).

That's ok, neither can Zimbos.

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2013/08/05/Terror_threat_the_most_serious_in_years_893401.html?cid=ZBP_NEWS_L_L1-2_Terrorthreatthemostseriousinyears_RSS_040813



http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/04/world/asia/pakistan-alert/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2013/08/05/US_a_willing_partner_for_Iran_talks_893420.html?cid=ZBP_NEWS_L_L1-10_USawillingpartnerforIrantalks_RSS_040813

If Rohani was that different in political ideology, whether it's with the country's Nuclear program, attitude towards Israel or any other Iranian policy he would never have been given the thumbs up by Ayatollah Khamenei.

Yup, Ayatollah barred the candidates he didn't want participating and the guardian council is a bunch of mullahs. Rohani may be a "moderate" but he is not a reformist.

I do hope to see good relations with Iran one day though, they're a great power in waiting, very good at science, large resources and a large growing population.

I have spoken to quite a few iranians, many of them are very liberal and hate the regime.



Edited by Iridium1010: 5/8/2013 03:05:56 PM

5 Israeli Mossad agents arrested operating an alleged al-Qaeda terror cell on Yemeni soil

http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com/The-Latest-NSA-Mossad-False-Flag-And-The-American-Turkish-Council-Fingered-Again__08-04-2013.html

"UNITED STATES of America - It can now be reported that the nation of Yemen has arrested five (5) Israeli Mossad agents who have been operating an alleged al-Qaeda terror cell on Yemeni soil.
This new Israeli Spy Ring is responsible for the alleged terrorist threats made against the American, British, German and French diplomatic installations around the world.

Note: The five (5) Israeli Mossad agents masquerading as al-Qaeda terrorists also have ties to the American-Turkish Council operating out of Istanbul, Turkey.

The American-Turkish Council (which has direct working relationship with the U.S. State Department) was responsible for the assassination of the late U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya.

P.S. At this hour the Obama Administration, along with the U.S. State Department, the CIA and the Department of Justice, are involved in a massive obstruction of justice operation in attempting to silence former and current CIA employees who are material witnesses to the massive TREASON that took place in Benghazi, Libya on 09-11-2012."

Edited by Footyroo: 5/8/2013 04:04:21 PM

Israeli agents...working for Al Quaeda. That doesn't even make sense.

Can't find any more reliable sites with that, I mean just look at tht page.

Top stories: demon attack caught on tape:lol:

Edited by iridium1010: 5/8/2013 03:53:52 PM

"Supernatural Killers Coming, A Must Read!"
"Riot-Gear Cops Kill 95-Yr-Old WWII Vet in Nursing Home"
"Al Qaeda To Obama "Close Your Damn Embassies, Boy" - It's Official We Surrender To Al Qaeda!"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's also about UFOs, Footyroo wtf you doing on there:lol:

To be fair, the quality of writing is on a par with the Daily Telegraph :lol:

:Lol: :lol:

Note:

P.s

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P.P.S I really love Grape Ape.

" And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "[size=7]Genrikh Yagoda[/size]," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf." "

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
Published:    12.21.06, 23:35 / Israel Opinion


Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.

Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.

All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened
to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD's and KGB's service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of "How could it have happened to us?" As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."

Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.

Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.

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Lmaoooo fucking north koreans