Yes, the media should call out a bullshit artist

Wut. Rusty just obliterated you with that point. Weak. Hes right you actually do have your head up your ass. No one in their right mind would even contemplate arguing that the american mainstream media isnt against trump. And only a truly objective observer can make the point rusty just did about the blatant hypocrisy in our own politics. You approach politics like football...gotta have a team.. parochial fool. 

Typical right winger - make shit up. Live in alternative reality. No wonder you guys believe in sky fairies.

Keep left unless overtaking.......and a million other cliches.. youre a cliche bot.

Hillary, the alleged champion of womens rights, accepting millions of $$$$for her campaign from..........Saudi (where women are outlawed from driving). Shes in bed with Soros. Shes a proven liar. Shes married to a self confessed philanderer and accused rapist/who settled out of court ie paid his way out of charges, AND according to Juanita Broaddrick, who is one of her husbands many sexual victims, hillary actually intimidates her husbands victims into silence. She is a despicable person. Trump may be bad, but shes off the meter duplicitous evil witch. 

And anyway like tsf says she was utterly gagging for war with russia. Do you listen to any of the shit you go on about?

Just calm down Salmon Lebeouf...and remember....HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US. HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US. HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US. Lol.

Well, the Dems didn't send troops into Syria, pushed for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq & Afghanistan while the Reps railed against it, didn't use the language "bomb the shit out of them" during the election campaign & the Reps love guns, so pretty self explanatory.

Not that it was the point of my basic fukcing statement. FMD.

And what's your prediction for how long it would've taken Hilary to go to war with another country?

China has a greater reliance on Middle Eastern oil than the US. The west should hand the toilet bowl over to them and then double down on electric cars.

I can imagine in, say, 3 years time as we're dragged into a war with Iran & questions are raised about the reasons for it while casualties pile up, the response from the right will be "suck shit, we were de winnerz!"

He won mate. The sooner you let it go the sooner you will find peace.

Time to reach majority disapproval:

Reagan - 727 days
Bush Snr - 1336 days
Clinton - 573 days
Bush Jnr - 1205 days
Obama - 936 days

Trump - 8 SOLITARY DAYS!!!!!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/30/president-donald-trump-smashes-record-get-fastest-majority-disapproval/

"But we didn't realise"
Yes, that's because you're dumb cnuts & dumb cnuts put little effort into thinking and say things like "he's a straight talker!". Hence the label 'dumb cnut'

She was raring to go with Russia.

Clinton what?

You don't think she would have kept up the bombing of ME countries and the war machine kicking over? :lol:

-PB

Go ahead and try to defend this.

Edit: By the way, yeah Clinton and Trump are totally just like each other. No difference at all.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO

The Trump administration wants to revamp and rename a U.S. government program designed to counter all violent ideologies so that it focuses solely on Islamist extremism, five people briefed on the matter told Reuters.

The program, "Countering Violent Extremism," or CVE, would be changed to "Countering Islamic Extremism" or "Countering Radical Islamic Extremism," the sources said, and would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.

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Such a change would reflect Trump's election campaign rhetoric and criticism of former President Barack Obama for being weak in the fight against Islamic State and for refusing to use the phrase "radical Islam" in describing it. Islamic State has claimed responsibility for attacks on civilians in several countries.

The CVE program aims to deter groups or potential lone attackers through community partnerships and educational programs or counter-messaging campaigns in cooperation with companies such as Google (GOOGL.O) and Facebook (FB.O).

Some proponents of the program fear that rebranding it could make it more difficult for the government to work with Muslims already hesitant to trust the new administration, particularly after Trump issued an executive order last Friday temporarily blocking travel to the United States from seven predominantly Muslim countries.

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Still, the CVE program, which focuses on U.S. residents and is separate from a military effort to fight extremism online, has been criticized even by some supporters as ineffective.

A source who has worked closely with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on the program said Trump transition team members first met with a CVE task force in December and floated the idea of changing the name and focus. 

In a meeting last Thursday attended by senior staff for DHS Secretary John Kelly, government employees were asked to defend why they chose certain community organizations as recipients of CVE program grants, said the source, who requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the discussions.

Although CVE funding has been appropriated by Congress and the grant recipients were notified in the final days of the Obama administration, the money still may not go out the door, the source said, adding that Kelly is reviewing the matter.

The department declined comment. The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

PROGRAM CRITICIZED

Some Republicans in Congress have long assailed the program as politically correct and ineffective, asserting that singling out and using the term "radical Islam" as the trigger for many violent attacks would help focus deterrence efforts.

Others counter that branding the problem as "radical Islam" would only serve to alienate more than three million Americans who practice Islam peacefully.

Many community groups, meanwhile, had already been cautious about the program, partly over concerns that it could double as a surveillance tool for law enforcement.

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Hoda Hawa, director of policy for the Muslim Public Affairs Council, said she was told last week by people within DHS that there was a push to refocus the CVE effort from tackling all violent ideology to only Islamist extremism.

"That is concerning for us because they are targeting a faith group and casting it under a net of suspicion," she said.

Another source familiar with the matter was told last week by a DHS official that a name change would take place. Three other sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said such plans had been discussed but were unable to attest whether they had been finalized.

The Obama administration sought to foster relationships with community groups to engage them in the counterterrorism effort. In 2016, Congress appropriated $10 million in grants for CVE efforts and DHS awarded the first round of grants on Jan. 13, a week before Trump was inaugurated.

Among those approved were local governments, city police departments, universities and non-profit organizations. In addition to organizations dedicated to combating Islamic State's recruitment in the United States, grants also went to Life After Hate, which rehabilitates former neo-Nazis and other domestic extremists.

Just in the past two years, authorities blamed radical and violent ideologies as the motives for a white supremacist's shooting rampage inside a historic African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina and Islamist militants for shootings and bombings in California, Florida and New York.

One grant recipient, Leaders Advancing & Helping Communities, a Michigan-based group led by Lebanese-Americans, has declined a $500,000 DHS grant it had sought, according to an email the group sent that was seen by Reuters. A representative for the group confirmed the grant had been rejected but declined further comment. 

"Given the current political climate and cause for concern, LAHC has chosen to decline the award," said the email, which was sent last Thursday, a day before Trump issued his immigration order, which was condemned at home and abroad as discriminating against Muslims while the White House said it was to "to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals.

When trolls meet trolls....

I have no doubt that the people posting in these threads have genuine beliefs one way or another and care about the subject but most are posting hyperbole to raise a reaction. It's a pity. 

You and Joffatossa represent the stupid in both sides of the spectrum. Also I think Joffatossa might just be a troll.

I love how the left justify their bias by arguing its because they specialise in "facts and truth". In fact the further left you go, society seems to reordered so the communists are in the centre, and everybody else is on the right, with the liberals right on the cliff with Nazi Germany. Its incredible isnt it, the mental gymnastics people play to justify their bias and argue their views are objective, undiluted truth, while everyone else is just a bigoted, prejudiced moron. Its almost like they are beyond human, impervious to influence from social environment, genes, upbringing, emotions unlike all the other mortals out there, no they have risen above all of that and sit firmly aloft the cloud of truth. Joffatossa is just one of wankers drowning in bias everyday and just cant see it because that would contradict his emotional need to feel intellectually superior to everybody.

Say it another 100 hundred times and the boogey man appears

-PB

The right only label the ABC as leftist because they substantiate their articles with facts & evidence.
Facts & evidence is the antithesis of right wing ideology.

I read all of these newspapers with the exception to Ninemsn. News.com is the most entertaining overall but nothing beats the comment sections of SMH (Sydney vs Melb, Cyclist vs Motorist, Climate Science vs Climate Sceptics). It's fucking gold.

All the talk pre and post election was how Trump was Putin's puppet, but him being Bannon's puppet is a much much more worrying prospect.

IMDB Is shutting down its message boards
Reddit

Creating a position for a Bannon on the NSC is by far the darker, more threatening and out of line move compared to a short-term migration review.

An argument could be made that Trump is an ideological puppet and Bannon pulls the string. I'm really interested in how they come across each other and decided to work together.

Just thought I would bring it up to about Bannon's appointment to the National Security Council in the US. Trump wrote an executive order to create a position for Bannon's role (it didn't exist before Trump was President). Not only did Trump get him on the NSC but also made his role a regular meeting attendee. Trump also made two previous regular meeting attendee positions non-regular. The Joint Chiefs of Staff (the US military leaders) and the Director of National Intelligence.

Let's look at the CV of the current chairman of the Joint Cheifs of Staff, Joseph Dunford: Served his country since 1977, serving as a commander of regiments in Iraq (1990s) and the lead commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan. He is the current chair of the 7 leaders across all branches of the US military.

Bannon served 7 years in the US Navy in the late 70's and 80's and then went on to be a banker and journalist.

I know who I'd be appointing to advise me on national security issues.

The other interesting role, that of the Director of National Intelligence, makes for some reading when comparing the previous director and Trump's proposed director.

- James R. Clapper (previous director) prior to his appointment had been a director of two national intelligence agencies for 20 years and served in the US Air Force for 30 years before that.

- Dan Coats (proposed director) has been a career politician, ambassador for 4 years and served 2 years in the army in the 1960's.

Their CVs are chalk and cheese.

Yeah SMH is pretty left and ABC is waaaaay to the left on social issues, perhaps not so much with the economy.

Separately, the only thing that feeds Milo's career is the reaction against him. Without that he would quickly be replaced. I am intrigued by his claim that his ideological opposites are currently struggling against him because silencing through identity politics doesn't work.

It was a smart move to put UC Berkeley last on his tour list, but I can just imagine Bannon rushing into Trump's office yelling "you gotta get Berkeley, they banned a Breitbart staffer!!!"

SMH as a conservative site :laugh:
Supported the libs in 2013 :laugh:
The ABC isnt left biased :laugh:
One Murdoch rag read by old fuddy duddies proves Murdoch controls the press and the minds of all Australians :laugh:
Fairfax is Independent. Always. :laugh:

[Teacher stands in front of students]

"And this is how you successful troll the internet. You make rhetorical statements, that other users quickly shoot you down with as false. So then you grasp at straws, i.e. "I meant digital subscriptions". Then you are shot down again, so you throw in some insults and simply dismiss anything presented that doesn't agree with your preconceived opinion."

[Students furiously make notes]

"Sir, how to we respond to such posters?"

[Teacher ponders]

"Simple. You can't. Some people just want to argue and cling to their preconceived opinion no matter what is put in front of them. You simply need to shake your head and move on with your life. Some people are willfully ignorant and they have every right to make that choice in life."

5pm!!!!!!!!

Your homework question for this weekend children is as follows - does "left" just mean "what I don't agree with"?

Have a good weekend fellas!

News.com.au is a populist website that is left on many issues including Trump, NBN, borders. It doesn't matter that it's owned by News, the fact is it's left on most issues. You're clueless if you think the SMH and ABC aren't left leaning.  It would be like me arguing that the Australia is slightly left.  Lets not kid ourselves though.