Thank you .finally someone who thinks for themselves and not listen to the media

1 guy = decades of organised terrorism ](*,)

righteo.

Edited by 433: 17/9/2014 06:11:25 PM

Breivik didn't commit an act terrorism in the name of religion though'. kinda important

Crusades , sectarian violence , abortion clinic bombings , kkk , I could go on . And I'm Catholic .

Bringing up shit from almost a millennia ago... :lol:

Muslim apologists are truly a desperate bunch. Meanwhile groups are committing genocide right now in the middle-east.

TIL abortion clinics have been around for millennia.

No apologist , just showing how people are select icing . Also my wife is a Muslim and she denounces this like the rest of her bosnian Muslims friends and family

Not to mention the Irish Troubles and the KKK

Show me Christians who are committing these crimes against humanity on such a large and frequent scale.

Wow, she denounces it. Congrats.

I'm sure Islam has such a progressive stance on abortions (and women's rights in general) compared to Christianity...

But I guess an alpha-male red-pill-swallower such as yourself wouldn't give two shits about women's rights.

Her whole community does . But nothing gets said by the media . But of course you don't want to hear it as you follow Andrew bolt

Nah, fuck that pro-Israel shill.

That's all the "moderate" Islamic community is good for - running away to other countries and complaining that the country they emigrated to aren't doing enough to fix the problems that they ran away from. Fix your own problems for once FFS.

Edited by 433: 17/9/2014 07:50:55 PM

Yeah the bosnian complain about the country they are living in . :lol: They are moderate and are disgusted by the whole isil movement as it doesn't represent Islam . Like how the Kkk and or the Nazi's or the abortion clinic bomber represent Christians .

"Why isn't this country more accepting of me?"

"Why isn't this country like my old one?"

Way to go confusing two issues :lol:

-PB

So you've heard bosnian ' s say this ??

I think he fit in more fallacies than words in his post :lol:

A religious person that denounces acts of terrorism in the name of their own religion is doing no help at all. Even the most sectarian religious person spreads the exact same basic beliefs as a fundamentalist - just without the extreme stuff. The views and morals are derived from the same source material.

If I wrote that it was okay to have intercourse with nine year old girls and murder people for not believing the exact same thing that I did - And people started following me, just choosing to ignore the child marriage and murder parts, they are still just as much at fault for spreading ridiculous beliefs like that as I am for even coming up with it in the first place.

Anyone that says ISIL doesn't represent Islam is wrong, and anyone that says the KKK doesn't represent Christianity is wrong. They are both based on the same books as the beliefs as moderate Christians and Muslims. The problem isn't that the KKK and ISIL don't represent the religions, however extreme they may be - It's that the moderate believers refuse to accept that their own belief could be interpreted through terrorism. The sad thing? Both the Quran and the Bible sanction murder in the name of their respective religions.

People need to be introspective about this issue and ask why they believe in a god that would sanction murder and rape in the first place, not sit around denying that people who take those words seriously are aligned with similar beliefs.

It's called fundamentalism for a reason - Because they believe the fundamental aspects of the religion.

Edited by Draupnir: 17/9/2014 09:38:54 PM

How does a catholic man marry a muslim woman, pretty sure that's against the Quran.

Edited by iridium1010: 17/9/2014 10:03:55 PM

Do you actually think I couldn't make a long list of things christians never had to denounce in recent history? But way to miss my point, I don't think any religious group should have to come out and denounce anyone.

Really think about the situation going on, 99.9% of ISIS' victims have been muslims. Why should anyone think Muslims in Australia, Germany, Canada etc.... would support that?

That KKK comment is a load of bullshit, utter bullshit :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just because they are white, conservative Americans, it doesn't mean they do what they do in the name of 'God' or even that they're Christians.
Comical effort really.

You do know the KKK were a white Protestant religious movement right?

They used to burn crosses. They were like any other religious terrorist group. They were on the fringes and denounced by the rest of the religious group but they were still Christians.

Bosnians are chilled. I work with a Bosnian bloke and I don't think I can think of a more moderate muslim. He likes to translate all his Bosnian sayings and they're hilarious because they make zero sense.

Isn't a bit racist if we were to single out middle eastern, african and asian muslims are the principal culprits of violence?

Notice how little Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Iran have done about ISIS?

That's due to the fact they have faced adversity . None and I mean none want to change the country they're living in . They have been ethnic ly cleansed . But I k ow two who have been thru hell and back and no suffer from ptsd. Father and son

Cmon Scotland, Fuck the Union off.

White House fence jumper had knife
AFP
September 21, 2014, 2:44 pm

White House fence jumper had knife AFP White House fence jumper had knife

Washington (AFP) - A man who jumped over a White House fence and entered the presidential mansion was carrying a folding knife and claimed to be an Iraq war veteran, triggering a security review.

The White House -- the president's workplace and home -- is generally regarded as one of the most secure and protected places on the planet.

All the more troubling, Secret Service officials said, that the fence jumper, identified as 42-year-old Omar Gonzalez, had entered the building unimpeded late Friday after sprinting across the North Lawn.

President Barack Obama and his family were not home at the time, though officials and journalists were rushed out of the building during the evening disturbance.

"I ran toward Omar Gonzalez and yelled at him to stop. Instead, Omar Gonzalez ran toward the White House," a Security Service agent said in an affidavit.

Gonzalez, of Copperas Cove, Texas, was arrested just after entering through the North Portico doors of the White House.

Agents found a Spyderco VG-10 black folding knife with a 3.5-inch (8.90-centimeter) serrated blade in his right front pants pocket, according to the affidavit.

During an initial appearance in US District Court in Washington on Saturday, he was charged with unlawful entry while in possession of a deadly or dangerous weapon. He faces up to 10 years behind bars.

After his arrest, Gonzalez told a Security Service agent that "he was concerned that the atmosphere was collapsing and needed to get the information to the President of the United States so that he could get the word out to the people," according to the affidavit.

The document also said that Gonzalez claimed he had served three tours of duty in Iraq.

"Although last night the officers showed tremendous restraint and discipline in dealing with this subject, the location of Gonzalez's arrest is not acceptable," the Secret Service said.

An agency within the Department of Homeland Security, the Secret Service is tasked with protecting America's highest elected officials and visiting foreign officials, and securing events of national significance.

But the service in charge of security for America's commander in chief has also been dogged with scandals and mishaps in recent years.

The investigation was ordered by Secret Service Director Julia Pierson, whose office said that the review's findings would be submitted to Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.

The Secret Service said the review began late Friday, with a physical assessment of the site and personnel interviews, and would encompass "all operational policies and security procedures during this process."

In the interim, Pierson has ordered increased patrols and surveillance around the fence line of the White House complex.

- A trespasser arrested -

The announcement of the internal Secret Service probe coincided with the second security incident in as many days at the White House, where a man was arrested and charged with trespassing.

Secret Service spokesman Brian Leary told AFP that Kevin Carr of Shamong, New Jersey, had turned up in his car a short time after being denied entrance at a pedestrian access point.

"He doesn't hit the barriers, he gets out of his vehicle, he's compliant -- but he was in a restricted area and he was told not to be there, so he was arrested," said Leary.

Officials said this breach was a relatively minor affair compared to the fence-jumper the day before.

"This is an everyday occurrence," said Ed Donovan, another Secret Service spokesman, adding that at no point did Carr attempt to enter White House grounds.

"It's being overblown," he said, as US media quickly ramped up coverage of the incident.

The attention also comes after several embarrassing incidents for the agency.

In March, three agents were sent home from Amsterdam after a night of drinking, with one found passed out in a hotel hallway.

And in 2012, a dozen agents and officers drank heavily and brought prostitutes to their hotel in the Colombian Caribbean resort of Cartagena before the president's arrival for an economy summit.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/25069088/

http://rt.com/news/189404-canada-isis-terrorists-passports/

Wonder when this will happen here?

Must be very soon one would think.

-PB

I still don't understand how/why people aren't just placed into quarantine when returning from somewhere like West Africa.

-PB

Fairly sure we're already doing it.